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Old 09-07-2007, 09:20 PM
Mike Lucente
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Default wireless pc card -- any problem using "ssh"?

Hi,

Some time ago I picked up a Verizon wireless card only to find out that
I was unable to use "ssh". I'm guessing that Verizon was blocking access
to some non-standard ports. At any rate, I didn't have the patience to
try to navigate Verizon's Tech Support and I just returned the card.

Anyone know if this issue has been resolved? I'd like to use the card
but have no use for it if I can't get to my servers via ssh.

Thanks.

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Old 09-08-2007, 12:58 AM
Dennis Ferguson
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On 2007-09-07, Mike Lucente <ml@alertsite.com> wrote:
> Anyone know if this issue has been resolved? I'd like to use the card
> but have no use for it if I can't get to my servers via ssh.


It works fine for me, but then again it has always worked fine
for me so I can't say for sure that they've fixed something.

Dennis Ferguson

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Old 09-08-2007, 01:50 AM
Larry
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Mike Lucente <ml@alertsite.com> wrote in news:46e1c01b$0$7077$b9f67a60
@news.newsdemon.com:

> Hi,
>
> Some time ago I picked up a Verizon wireless card only to find out that
> I was unable to use "ssh". I'm guessing that Verizon was blocking

access
> to some non-standard ports. At any rate, I didn't have the patience to
> try to navigate Verizon's Tech Support and I just returned the card.
>
> Anyone know if this issue has been resolved? I'd like to use the card
> but have no use for it if I can't get to my servers via ssh.
>
> Thanks.
>
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From Verizon's acceptable use legalese:

"UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be
used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like
customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or
host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera
posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine
connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute
or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by
way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet,
downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets
is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services
and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is
prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one
hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited
uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a
month.

For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We
reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and
to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is
using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or
whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using
more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the
service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to
immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We
also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer
Agreement term"
----------------------------------------------------------------

It's NOT internet service. It's webpage spam, email and to hook to your
company's network if you have one. NOTHING ELSE....all forbidden.
It dumps you automatically if you exceed the 5GB/month limit....hardly
"unlimited" service for $60/month.

Larry
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Old 09-08-2007, 01:57 AM
Michael Wise
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Default Re: wireless pc card -- any problem using "ssh"?

In article <46e1c01b$0$7077$b9f67a60@news.newsdemon.com>,
Mike Lucente <ml@alertsite.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Some time ago I picked up a Verizon wireless card only to find out that
> I was unable to use "ssh". I'm guessing that Verizon was blocking access
> to some non-standard ports. At any rate, I didn't have the patience to
> try to navigate Verizon's Tech Support and I just returned the card.
>
> Anyone know if this issue has been resolved? I'd like to use the card
> but have no use for it if I can't get to my servers via ssh.



I use ssh from my VZW Treo 7000p frequently with no problems. If they
blocked it, I would have switched carriers.


--Mike

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Old 09-08-2007, 03:37 AM
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Default Re: wireless pc card -- any problem using "ssh"?

Larry likes to quote the below ad nauseam.
Over and over and over. Consider the source.
(Rabid conspiracy theorist and kook)

Don't exceed (consistently) 5G and ignore everything else.

It's just lawyer weasel language.
Stay under the 5G and do what the hell you want.

The traffic itself isn't monitored. Just the total amount used.

It is most certainly Internet service. Anywhere you go.


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns99A4DF56F6410noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> Mike Lucente <ml@alertsite.com> wrote in news:46e1c01b$0$7077$b9f67a60
> @news.newsdemon.com:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Some time ago I picked up a Verizon wireless card only to find out that
>> I was unable to use "ssh". I'm guessing that Verizon was blocking

> access
>> to some non-standard ports. At any rate, I didn't have the patience to
>> try to navigate Verizon's Tech Support and I just returned the card.
>>
>> Anyone know if this issue has been resolved? I'd like to use the card
>> but have no use for it if I can't get to my servers via ssh.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> --
>> Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service
>> ------->>>>>>http://www.NewsDemon.com<<<<<<------
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>>

>
> From Verizon's acceptable use legalese:
>
> "UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
> Unlimited Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess,
> BroadbandAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be
> used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
> browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
> corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like
> customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
> automation). The Unlimited Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for
> any other purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without
> limitation, the following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or
> streaming of audio or video programming or games; (ii) server devices or
> host computer applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera
> posts or broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine–to–machine
> connections or peer–to–peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute
> or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by
> way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet,
> downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets
> is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services
> and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is
> prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one
> hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited
> uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a
> month.
>
> For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
> protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We
> reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and
> to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is
> using an Unlimited Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or
> whose usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using
> more than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the
> service in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to
> immediately terminate the service of any such person without notice. We
> also reserve the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer
> Agreement term"
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> It's NOT internet service. It's webpage spam, email and to hook to your
> company's network if you have one. NOTHING ELSE....all forbidden.
> It dumps you automatically if you exceed the 5GB/month limit....hardly
> "unlimited" service for $60/month.
>
> Larry
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Old 09-08-2007, 03:53 AM
Todd Allcock
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Default Re: wireless pc card -- any problem using "ssh"?

At 08 Sep 2007 01:50:58 +0000 Larry wrote:

> From Verizon's acceptable use legalese:



Oh, Brother... Here we go again...


> "UNLIMITED DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
> Unlimited Data Plans and Features.. ..may ONLY be
> used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
> browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access
> to corporate intranets,



Wouldn't SSH fall under "access to corporate intranets?"

> It's NOT internet service.

True- it's wireless internet service.

> It's webpage spam, email and to hook to your
> company's network if you have one. NOTHING ELSE....all forbidden.


Not everyone downloads movies from binary groups 24/7. The OP asked
about SSH to the company server. Apparently it falls within
"acceptable use."


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