Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
but not this one.
Unfortunately, it sounds like Windows is hopelessly corrupted and it's time
to reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS and your
software. Restore your old data from your backups.
--
DaveW
__________
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
> the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
> place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
>
> I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
> but not this one.
>
> Help
>
> Thank you
"DaveW" <nowhere@dot.org> wrote in
news:v5GdnSTj0u-wWKDeRVn-oQ@comcast.com:
> Unfortunately, it sounds like Windows is hopelessly corrupted and it's
> time to reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS and
> your software. Restore your old data from your backups.
>
I'm sorry I forgot to say that I've tried 3 different win xp drives and
could not get past that point.
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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> "DaveW" <nowhere@dot.org> wrote in
> news:v5GdnSTj0u-wWKDeRVn-oQ@comcast.com:
>
>> Unfortunately, it sounds like Windows is hopelessly corrupted and it's
>> time to reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS and
>> your software. Restore your old data from your backups.
>>
>
> I'm sorry I forgot to say that I've tried 3 different win xp drives and
> could not get past that point.
There is no such thing as an "XP drive"
Erase the hard drive so there is nothing on it. Reboot from your Windows CD
and install.
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:42:47 GMT, "s_landa"
<s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
>the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
>place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
>
>I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
>but not this one.
>
>Help
>
>Thank you
This is not a windows newsgroup. To get detailed
information about windows resolution you are best turned to
a windows group. As for the system itself (sans OS), you've
told us nothing about it so we can hardly advise on what to
do next.
What you decribe could be errors in memory, motherboard or
CPU instability, hard drive or cabling fault- just about
anything.
Given no background info all I could suggest is doing the
usual basic diagnostics like memtest96, the HDD
manufacturer's utility to check the drive, checking cables
and connectors, fans, battery, capacitors, and clearing
CMOS.
If all these things check out, you might want to see if you
use an alternate HDD to install windows fresh, or copy off
any valuable data before trying a repair install of windows,
or lastly, a reformat of the HDD partition and clean install
of windows.
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E1B3F5EE0E5slandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
> the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
> place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
>
> I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
> but not this one.
>
> Help
>
> Thank you
Hello, It could be as simple as having the Hard Drives jumpered wrong, or
it may be a hard drive going bad...! Or............. anything in
between...!
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:42:47 GMT, "s_landa"
> <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>
>>Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen
>>and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually
>>this is the place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not
>>today.
>>
>>I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix
>>problems, but not this one.
>>
>>Help
>>
>>Thank you
>
>
I've run Norton, Check-it, Symantec virus, Tuneup 2006, no luck.
And don't forget a boot logging program that found nothing.
The problem is just before win xp starts, and after the pci device
listings. This is the 19 minute moment.
I have plugged in other hardrives that have the same os on it (3 others)
and get the same delay.
There is nothing in Microsoft web site to address this. I have even
done a system resore to several days before this began. No luck.
After it finally boots it works fine. Is there something in the bios
(award) that could cause this?
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E380FAEBDA9slandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
> On 30 Sep 2005, you wrote in alt.comp.hardware:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:42:47 GMT, "s_landa"
>> <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen
>>>and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually
>>>this is the place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not
>>>today.
>>>
>>>I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix
>>>problems, but not this one.
>>>
>>>Help
>>>
>>>Thank you
>>
>>
>
> I've run Norton, Check-it, Symantec virus, Tuneup 2006, no luck.
> And don't forget a boot logging program that found nothing.
>
> The problem is just before win xp starts, and after the pci device
> listings. This is the 19 minute moment.
Sounds like hardware to me. Unfortunately, the only real way to find out is
swapping hardware.
Alias
>
> I have plugged in other hardrives that have the same os on it (3 others)
> and get the same delay.
>
> There is nothing in Microsoft web site to address this. I have even
> done a system resore to several days before this began. No luck.
>
> After it finally boots it works fine. Is there something in the bios
> (award) that could cause this?
>
> Thanks
>
On Sun, 02 Oct 2005 17:43:20 GMT, "s_landa"
<s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>I've run Norton, Check-it, Symantec virus, Tuneup 2006, no luck.
>And don't forget a boot logging program that found nothing.
Frankly I would uninstall those apps as they are often more
trouble than they are worth, particularly since this seems a
pre-windows issue.
>
>The problem is just before win xp starts, and after the pci device
>listings. This is the 19 minute moment.
Did you clear the CMOS?
Check your drive jumpers and disconnect all drives,
including removable ones and memory readers (which might
include printer with memory slot). Leave only the floppy
connected and try to boot to (floppy). Does that work
without delay? If so, reconnect only the HDD with OS on it,
alone, and jumper it as such (master device OR single device
in cases where the drive requires it- like Western Digital
HDDs).
Check your bios boot options. If there is one for network
adapter ROM booting, disable it (assuming you have no desire
to network boot).
>
>I have plugged in other hardrives that have the same os on it (3 others)
>and get the same delay.
>
>There is nothing in Microsoft web site to address this. I have even
>done a system resore to several days before this began. No luck.
>
>After it finally boots it works fine. Is there something in the bios
>(award) that could cause this?
It's possible, yes, and was one of the reasons I'd suggested
clearing CMOS. Did the system do this originally or did the
problem begin later? If later, what had changed just prior
to onset of the problem?
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96E380FAEBDA9slandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
> On 30 Sep 2005, you wrote in alt.comp.hardware:
>
>> On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 22:42:47 GMT, "s_landa"
>> <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen
>>>and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually
>>>this is the place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not
>>>today.
>>>
>>>I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix
>>>problems, but not this one.
This is your first mistake... Symantec stuff is more likely to trash your PC
than fix it. Same goes for registry cleaners.
> I've run Norton, Check-it, Symantec virus, Tuneup 2006, no luck.
> And don't forget a boot logging program that found nothing.
> The problem is just before win xp starts, and after the pci device
> listings. This is the 19 minute moment.
Have your reset your CMOS settings? It could be looking for non-existant
hardware.
Try booting from a floppy disk or CD. If it still takes a long time, then
you know it isn't an OS problem.
> I have plugged in other hardrives that have the same os on it (3 others)
> and get the same delay.
Unless the other hard drives were formatted on an identical PC, then there's
a big chance that you'd see a hardware confict anyhow. That could also cause
delays.
> There is nothing in Microsoft web site to address this. I have even
> done a system resore to several days before this began. No luck.
It's probably not a Windows issue. Anything that you've installed besides
Windows is not Microsofts problem.
"Shepİ" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>>This is your first mistake... Symantec stuff is more likely to trash your
>>PC
>>than fix it.
>
> This I agree.
>
>>Same goes for registry cleaners.
>
> This is bullshit
s_landa wrote:
>
> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
> the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
> place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
>
> I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
> but not this one.
>
> Help
>
> Thank you
I've looked at this and your other posts on this and you say that it
runs fine once it is booted up. Are you perhaps saying that the 19 min
delay is only on your first boot of the day? What happens after it has
booted and is running fine and you do a shutdown and then another boot?
Do you still get that delay or does it come right up? This might be the
same as a problem I had. Also, how old is that machine?
Robert Heiling <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in
news:43409196.4D0380A2@comcast.net:
> s_landa wrote:
>>
>> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings"
>> screen and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.)
I've looked at this and your other posts on this and you say that it
> runs fine once it is booted up. Are you perhaps saying that the 19 min
> delay is only on your first boot of the day? What happens after it has
> booted and is running fine and you do a shutdown and then another
> boot? Do you still get that delay or does it come right up? This might
> be the same as a problem I had. Also, how old is that machine?
>
> Bob
>
Yes, it happens everytime I boot. Even after re-boot. The Medion is about
3 years old. p4 2.4
"s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
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> Robert Heiling <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in
> news:43409196.4D0380A2@comcast.net:
>
>> s_landa wrote:
>>>
>>> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings"
>>> screen and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.)
>
> Yes, it happens everytime I boot. Even after re-boot. The Medion is
> about
> 3 years old. p4 2.4
>
> Good questions, thanks.
Did you try bootvis to see what the machine is doing? It might be helpful.
s_landa wrote:
> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings" screen and
> the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.) Usually this is the
> place where the "operating system not found" happens. Not today.
>
> I've tried Tune up 2006. Norton. Reg clean. All seem to fix problems,
> but not this one.
>
> Help
Sounds like you might want to update your BIOS. Last week doing that
corrected a hardware problem on a computer I was working on.
"P Ruetz" <parmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96E3E8CA0128Fslandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
>> Robert Heiling <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in
>> news:43409196.4D0380A2@comcast.net:
>>
>>> s_landa wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings"
>>>> screen and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.)
>>
>> Yes, it happens everytime I boot. Even after re-boot. The Medion is
>> about
>> 3 years old. p4 2.4
>>
>> Good questions, thanks.
>
>
> Did you try bootvis to see what the machine is doing? It might be
> helpful.
>
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664
>
> Peter
On Mon, 03 Oct 2005 01:29:45 GMT As Androids Dreamed Of Electric Sheep
and then "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote :
>
>"Shepİ" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
>news:okn0k1plmnsg0u2r8ibqt8c3gdqglj3qm9@4ax.com.. .
>>
>>>This is your first mistake... Symantec stuff is more likely to trash your
>>>PC
>>>than fix it.
>>
>> This I agree.
>>
>>>Same goes for registry cleaners.
>>
>> This is bullshit
>
>OK... I'll qualify my remark.
>
>Registry cleaners should not be used by novices.
Why not?
They all make backups of what they take out so it's easy to return the
system to it's prior state :D
"Cody" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> wrote in message
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>
> "P Ruetz" <parmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
>> news:Xns96E3E8CA0128Fslandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
>>> Robert Heiling <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in
>>> news:43409196.4D0380A2@comcast.net:
>>>
>>>> s_landa wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings"
>>>>> screen and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.)
>>>
>>> Yes, it happens everytime I boot. Even after re-boot. The Medion is
>>> about
>>> 3 years old. p4 2.4
>>>
>>> Good questions, thanks.
>>
>>
>> Did you try bootvis to see what the machine is doing? It might be
>> helpful.
>>
>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664
>>
>> Peter
>
> How does one use this program?
>
> Cody
>
You just fire it up and select an option from the trace menu (next boot,
next boot and driver delays, next standby, next hibernate). When you go
through the item to trace (e.g. reboot your machine) it will show you
graphically what the machine spent it's time doing . It's pretty simple (by
Microsoft). It also has options to try to optimize the boot process, but
the OP has more basic problems to worry about.
I did have problems with my new Dell with a Pentium D, so I'm not sure how
robust it is. It did work fine with my old Dell with a P4 and was quite
useful.
Cody
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>
> "Cody" <nospam@nospam.comedunetcita> wrote in message
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>>
>> "P Ruetz" <parmailbox-news@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>>> "s_landa" <s_landa@bellsouth.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns96E3E8CA0128Fslandabellsouthnet@216.77.188 .18...
>>>> Robert Heiling <robheil@comcast.net> wrote in
>>>> news:43409196.4D0380A2@comcast.net:
>>>>
>>>>> s_landa wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, it takes 19 minutes to go from the "pci device listings"
>>>>>> screen and the xp splash screen. (Before the "welcome" screen.)
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it happens everytime I boot. Even after re-boot. The Medion is
>>>> about
>>>> 3 years old. p4 2.4
>>>>
>>>> Good questions, thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you try bootvis to see what the machine is doing? It might be
>>> helpful.
>>>
>>> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=664
>>>
>>> Peter
>>
>> How does one use this program?
>>
>> Cody
>>
>
> You just fire it up and select an option from the trace menu (next boot,
> next boot and driver delays, next standby, next hibernate). When you go
> through the item to trace (e.g. reboot your machine) it will show you
> graphically what the machine spent it's time doing . It's pretty simple
> (by Microsoft). It also has options to try to optimize the boot process,
> but the OP has more basic problems to worry about.
>
> I did have problems with my new Dell with a Pentium D, so I'm not sure how
> robust it is. It did work fine with my old Dell with a P4 and was quite
> useful.
>
> Peter
>
19 minute boot??? 
Linear Mode
