added an old drive, XP is slower

A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for backups.
Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this old drive
crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive for things?
Thanks.

Talal Itani

"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this
> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
> for things? Thanks.
>
> Talal Itani
>

XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
its swap file, for instance. There are various times
when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
are seeing, due to the one slow drive.

If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
enclosure for this "old drive".

Luck;
Ken

"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>
>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this
>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>> for things? Thanks.
>>
>> Talal Itani
>>
>
> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>
> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
> enclosure for this "old drive".
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
>

Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups, than
an internal drive?

Talal Itani wrote:
> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this
>>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>>> for things? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Talal Itani
>>>
>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>
>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups, than
> an internal drive?
>
>
If your power supply blows your computer,
internal drives may nor survive.
Also you can remove a backup USB drive after backup.
And that way keep it out of harms way.

Talal Itani wrote:

>
> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>
>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>>
>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this
>>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>>> for things? Thanks.
>>>
>>> Talal Itani
>>>
>>
>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>
>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups, than
> an internal drive?

I prefer an external drive because I connect it to the machine only when I
am doing a backup, and store it in another room otherwise: a bit safer from
disasters. Actually, I have two usb drives that I use in alternating order
to backup four machines.

"Sjouke Burry" <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnlll> wrote in message
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> Talal Itani wrote:
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear
>>>> this old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this
>>>> drive for things? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Talal Itani
>>>>
>>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>>
>>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups,
>> than an internal drive?
> If your power supply blows your computer,
> internal drives may nor survive.
> Also you can remove a backup USB drive after backup.
> And that way keep it out of harms way.

Good point, thanks, I will do that.

"Roby" <roby@no-address.net> wrote in message
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> Talal Itani wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>
>>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear
>>>> this
>>>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>>>> for things? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Talal Itani
>>>>
>>>
>>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>>
>>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups,
>> than
>> an internal drive?
>
> I prefer an external drive because I connect it to the machine only when I
> am doing a backup, and store it in another room otherwise: a bit safer
> from
> disasters. Actually, I have two usb drives that I use in alternating
> order
> to backup four machines.

Thanks.

"Roby" <roby@no-address.net> wrote in message
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> Talal Itani wrote:
>
>>
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>
>>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>>>
>>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear
>>>> this
>>>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>>>> for things? Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Talal Itani
>>>>
>>>
>>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>>
>>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>>
>>> Luck;
>>> Ken
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups,
>> than
>> an internal drive?
>
> I prefer an external drive because I connect it to the machine only when I
> am doing a backup, and store it in another room otherwise: a bit safer
> from
> disasters. Actually, I have two usb drives that I use in alternating
> order
> to backup four machines.

I will take the opportunity to ask you: What software do you use for
backing up PCs?

Talal Itani wrote:
> "Roby" <roby@no-address.net> wrote in message
> news:462419f8$0$8920$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Talal Itani wrote:
>>
>>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>>> news:zuOdnbqosPDDkLnbnZ2dnUVZ_uuqnZ2d@giganews.com ...
>>>> "Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>>>>> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
>>>>> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear
>>>>> this
>>>>> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
>>>>> for things? Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Talal Itani
>>>>>
>>>> XP actually is smart enough to work in the opposite
>>>> manner from what you are experiencing, it will use
>>>> the fastest/ lowest latency drive on your system for
>>>> its swap file, for instance. There are various times
>>>> when the OS or the file system will access/poll all the
>>>> attached drives and that could be the slow-up you
>>>> are seeing, due to the one slow drive.
>>>>
>>>> If it is for backup, you might consider a $15 USB
>>>> enclosure for this "old drive".
>>>>
>>>> Luck;
>>>> Ken
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks Ken, but why is a drive in a USB enclosure better for backups,
>>> than
>>> an internal drive?
>> I prefer an external drive because I connect it to the machine only when I
>> am doing a backup, and store it in another room otherwise: a bit safer
>> from
>> disasters. Actually, I have two usb drives that I use in alternating
>> order
>> to backup four machines.
>
> I will take the opportunity to ask you: What software do you use for
> backing up PCs?
>
>
Ghost 2003 to make an image copy to internal
disk, then file copy that disk to usb disk.
That copies OS disk and data disk in one go.
I would have used a second USB disk, if I had not
destroyed that one(The flatcable was displaced
one pin, and moved that disk into the dustbin....)

Maybe WinXP is indexing the drive. Try turning indexing off.

Talal Itani wrote:
>
> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for backups.
> Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this old drive
> crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive for things?
> Thanks.
>
> Talal Itani

--
Mike Walsh
West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A.

If you added the older slower drive to your Primary IDE channel on the same
IDE cable as your current harddrive, then both harddrives are limited to the
speed of your old drive.

--

DaveW

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"Talal Itani" <titani@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:TITUh.1424$xL6.522@trnddc05...
>
> A few days ago, I added a and old slow disk drive to my XP PC, for
> backups. Since then I noticed that the PC is slower, and I can hear this
> old drive crunching. Is it my imagination? Is XP now using this drive
> for things? Thanks.
>
> Talal Itani
>

"DaveW" <vorgons@rumba.org> wrote in message
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> If you added the older slower drive to your Primary IDE channel on the
> same IDE cable as your current harddrive, then both harddrives are limited
> to the speed of your old drive.
>

Thanks.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:43:47 -0700, "DaveW"
<vorgons@rumba.org> wrote:

>If you added the older slower drive to your Primary IDE channel on the same
>IDE cable as your current harddrive, then both harddrives are limited to the
>speed of your old drive.


False.

Independent device timing

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:55:53 GMT, "Talal Itani"
<titani@verizon.net> wrote:

>
>"DaveW" <vorgons@rumba.org> wrote in message
>news:tOidnZVjN8MZ0LjbnZ2dnUVZWhednZ2d@comcast.com ...
>> If you added the older slower drive to your Primary IDE channel on the
>> same IDE cable as your current harddrive, then both harddrives are limited
>> to the speed of your old drive.
>>
>
>Thanks.
>


This is another example of why it is bad to post on basic
topics as you will get wrong answers, while someone
sufficiently motivated to write a larger work, on the net
for example, will tend to get at least these basics right.

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:43:47 -0700, "DaveW"
> <vorgons@rumba.org> wrote:
>
>>If you added the older slower drive to your Primary IDE channel on the
>>same
>>IDE cable as your current harddrive, then both harddrives are limited to
>>the
>>speed of your old drive.
>
>
> False.
>
> Independent device timing


I agree, the net is full of true information, and also full of false
information. The minds of the humans contain much true information, and
also much false information. That old drive is only 40GB, I used it to save
some old data, and it bothers me because it keeps crunching. I cannot
figure it out. I will unplug it.