Compaq desqpro 386DX/20
I have the memory board for it....I had 2 of these 386DX/20s at one
time, very nice. The Ram card was hella expensive.
I also am looking for any information on an
early 1990's ramdisk board, this was written about in Byte, it was an
AT bus card (maybe EISA) that used AC power. Any ideas?
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:43:59 -0500, wessd
<wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote:
>2 pcs I want.
>
>Compaq desqpro 386DX/20
>I have the memory board for it....I had 2 of these 386DX/20s at one
>time, very nice. The Ram card was hella expensive.
>
Ok, and what does this have to do with ponies?
>I also am looking for any information on an
>early 1990's ramdisk board, this was written about in Byte, it was an
>AT bus card (maybe EISA) that used AC power. Any ideas?
>
>WessD
I wish I could help, but you are denied. At this point a
poster is a better option than upgrading ancient gear.
To upgrade it, more info about it might help, including what
memory it had, what (sockets?), etc, etc. If you don't have
the spare sips, it is hardly worth tracking down and buying
them today. If you have the spare sips, you might as well
plug them in and see if they are detected.
If you mention the specific make and model of the hardware,
it might help someone help you... but it's not so likey 10
years + after the hardware became obsolete.
If it is only for historic reasons, methink it is historic
enough in it's original configuration. Maybe even better
like that.
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:35:02 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:43:59 -0500, wessd
><wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>2 pcs I want.
>>
>>Compaq desqpro 386DX/20
>>I have the memory board for it....I had 2 of these 386DX/20s at one
>>time, very nice. The Ram card was hella expensive.
>>
>
>Ok, and what does this have to do with ponies?
>
>
Hi Dave.
>
>To upgrade it, more info about it might help, including what
>memory it had, what (sockets?), etc, etc. If you don't have
>the spare sips, it is hardly worth tracking down and buying
>them today. If you have the spare sips, you might as well
>plug them in and see if they are detected.
>
Niether one needed sipps.
I did have sipps at one time.
should have kept at least one.
but instead, snipped the legs of the sipps and made them into simms.
>If you mention the specific make and model of the hardware,
>it might help someone help you... but it's not so likey 10
>years + after the hardware became obsolete.
>
10 years?
Hella longer than 10 years.
386DX/20 with 387 and this math copro, ega and this mem expansion card
was STATE of the art and actually performed most task as fast ast the
dell optiplex 486dx2/50 I had. The hd died in the compy, so I tossed
it FOR SOME STUPID REASON!!!!!
>If it is only for historic reasons, methink it is historic
>enough in it's original configuration. Maybe even better
>like that.
The Compy would be for historic reasons.
The ramdisc card is just to prove I'm not insane.
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 06:29:12 -0500, wessd
<wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote:
>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:35:02 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 19:43:59 -0500, wessd
>><wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>2 pcs I want.
>>>
>>>Compaq desqpro 386DX/20
>>>I have the memory board for it....I had 2 of these 386DX/20s at one
>>>time, very nice. The Ram card was hella expensive.
>>>
>>
>>Ok, and what does this have to do with ponies?
>>
>>
>Hi Dave.
>
>>
>>To upgrade it, more info about it might help, including what
>>memory it had, what (sockets?), etc, etc. If you don't have
>>the spare sips, it is hardly worth tracking down and buying
>>them today. If you have the spare sips, you might as well
>>plug them in and see if they are detected.
>>
>Niether one needed sipps.
>I did have sipps at one time.
>should have kept at least one.
>but instead, snipped the legs of the sipps and made them into simms.
>
Well you called them boards and cards, so what exactly are
they? Is there any other info you have about them that
might be a good lead?
>
>>If you mention the specific make and model of the hardware,
>>it might help someone help you... but it's not so likey 10
>>years + after the hardware became obsolete.
>>
>
>10 years?
>Hella longer than 10 years.
That's where the + comes in, I was referring to practically
anything 10 years old or older.
>386DX/20 with 387 and this math copro, ega and this mem expansion card
>was STATE of the art and actually performed most task as fast ast the
>dell optiplex 486dx2/50 I had. The hd died in the compy, so I tossed
>it FOR SOME STUPID REASON!!!!!
Ok, but state of the art could be said of many computers at
any time in history, until a few months go by and something
else displaces it as being state of the art. Since it's not
reasonably usable by today's standards, I don't see why
adding something that wasn't original equipment would be
desirable.
>
>
>>If it is only for historic reasons, methink it is historic
>>enough in it's original configuration. Maybe even better
>>like that.
>The Compy would be for historic reasons.
>The ramdisc card is just to prove I'm not insane.
Did Byte mention the manufacturer? Contacting them or
possibly some employee who was there at the time might help,
or the author of the Byte article.
O
>
>Well you called them boards and cards, so what exactly are
>they? Is there any other info you have about them that
>might be a good lead?
>
card and board are the same.
this wa an addon card with dram that had a wall wort to keep it
powered up.
the ram card i have for a compy, is oem,proprietary, and can only work
on that model of 386 as it is a form of local bus.
>Ok, but state of the art could be said of many computers at
>any time in history, until a few months go by and something
>else displaces it as being state of the art. Since it's not
>reasonably usable by today's standards, I don't see why
>adding something that wasn't original equipment would be
>desirable.
>
>
it's like hopping up an old car...
>
>Did Byte mention the manufacturer? Contacting them or
>possibly some employee who was there at the time might help,
>or the author of the Byte article.
>
i have been all over byte.com, and the internet....
I believe it was pournell who wrote about it in 1990.
around 1990 july or augast/sept.
but, it could have been 1992 in the same months....
>As for proof of sanity...
>
i know, that's tougher.
WessD
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008 16:28:54 -0500, wessd
<wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote:
>>Ok, but state of the art could be said of many computers at
>>any time in history, until a few months go by and something
>>else displaces it as being state of the art. Since it's not
>>reasonably usable by today's standards, I don't see why
>>adding something that wasn't original equipment would be
>>desirable.
>>
>>
>
>it's like hopping up an old car...
>
>
Hopped up old cars are fast, and sometimes worth a lot of
money.
>
>>
>>Did Byte mention the manufacturer? Contacting them or
>>possibly some employee who was there at the time might help,
>>or the author of the Byte article.
>>
>
>
>
>i have been all over byte.com, and the internet....
>I believe it was pournell who wrote about it in 1990.
>
>around 1990 july or augast/sept.
>but, it could have been 1992 in the same months....
>
>good luck, but it seems a bit masochistic to me.
I gave up.
But then I remembered reading a review of a PC I used at work, a xerox
pc clone.
The thing about the clone, it came with a custom disk cache program
installed, and pc magazine was suprised at that and all but accused
xerox of cheating.
Hell, I also want a DEC rainbow, almost got one once.
"wessd" <wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> >good luck, but it seems a bit masochistic to me.
>
> I gave up.
>
> But then I remembered reading a review of a PC I used at work, a xerox
> pc clone.
> The thing about the clone, it came with a custom disk cache program
> installed, and pc magazine was suprised at that and all but accused
> xerox of cheating.
>
> Hell, I also want a DEC rainbow, almost got one once.
>
> dual processor machine, cp/m and dos.
>
> damn I am wierd.
>
> WessD
I too collect old H/W
I have a 386 (the AMD 40 mhz version) with 16 megs of RAM running win95
also I have a Zenith Data Systems 286 that I added an ISA RAM card to
and have the full 16 megs of RAM that a 286 can address.
I have two MFM drives in the machine and have Windows 1, Windows 2 and
Windows 3.0 and Windows 3.1 all loaded!
Additionally I have an XT and a Kaypro plus many more old machines
>
>I have a 386 (the AMD 40 mhz version) with 16 megs of RAM running win95
>
My favprite pc was a hyundai 386dx/20 with math copro, 3 hds 16meg
ram 2 hd floppy 14.4 modem (some 28.8) vga and snd blaster running
Geoworks.
>also I have a Zenith Data Systems 286 that I added an ISA RAM card to
>and have the full 16 megs of RAM that a 286 can address.
>
I have zeneth 8088 lunchbox.
>I have two MFM drives in the machine and have Windows 1, Windows 2 and
>Windows 3.0 and Windows 3.1 all loaded!
>
>Additionally I have an XT and a Kaypro plus many more old machines
>
I have an xt, a kaypro (with manuals ,disc and original receipts),
several macs (one never sold, still in box), a duo and duo dock, apple
2, IBM ps/2s (an all in one and 2 desktops) Compaq portables (original
and one or 2 more) several clones (PB,Tandy,Dell,compaq) and a NeXT
cube (no monitor or KB. An Amiga and a c64 in the box, plus an atari
with all manuals etc in the boxes.
I built a 10mhz XT clone, 8bit paradise VGA, snd blaster, 2400 modem,
2 HD floppies on an addon card, 2 HD ( a 40meg hard card and a 40meg
RLL) match co and 640k + a 2meg above board. I would love to have both
those back.
"wessd" <wessdaniels@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> >
> >I have a 386 (the AMD 40 mhz version) with 16 megs of RAM running win95
> >
>
> My favprite pc was a hyundai 386dx/20 with math copro, 3 hds 16meg
> ram 2 hd floppy 14.4 modem (some 28.8) vga and snd blaster running
> Geoworks.
>
> >also I have a Zenith Data Systems 286 that I added an ISA RAM card to
> >and have the full 16 megs of RAM that a 286 can address.
> >
> I have zeneth 8088 lunchbox.
>
> >I have two MFM drives in the machine and have Windows 1, Windows 2 and
> >Windows 3.0 and Windows 3.1 all loaded!
> >
> >Additionally I have an XT and a Kaypro plus many more old machines
> >
> I have an xt, a kaypro (with manuals ,disc and original receipts),
> several macs (one never sold, still in box), a duo and duo dock, apple
> 2, IBM ps/2s (an all in one and 2 desktops) Compaq portables (original
> and one or 2 more) several clones (PB,Tandy,Dell,compaq) and a NeXT
> cube (no monitor or KB. An Amiga and a c64 in the box, plus an atari
> with all manuals etc in the boxes.
>
> I built a 10mhz XT clone, 8bit paradise VGA, snd blaster, 2400 modem,
> 2 HD floppies on an addon card, 2 HD ( a 40meg hard card and a 40meg
> RLL) match co and 640k + a 2meg above board. I would love to have both
> those back.
>
>
Yes...an XT clone that you built would be a good one!
I noticed that those XT's will run any version of msdos...even msdos 6.22
but those Compaq "sewing machines" will only run dos 2.2 (or something like
that)
I found one that was discarded and at first thought it was defective...
but just kept trying different boot disks and finally got it going.
I try to keep disk images of all dos version ...just in case I need them!
>
>Yes...an XT clone that you built would be a good one!
>
>I noticed that those XT's will run any version of msdos...even msdos 6.22
>
true. and I got windows 3.1 to run on mine.
>but those Compaq "sewing machines" will only run dos 2.2 (or something like
>that)
>
they are supposed to run compaq dos, but I have dos 3.x (3?) running
on this one, and I did have another one with dos 5 on it, you have to
upgrade to each version to get there.
dos 5 is my favorite, 4 sucked, 6.22 is nice, but not on xt class.
>I found one that was discarded and at first thought it was defective...
>but just kept trying different boot disks and finally got it going.
>
My first wasn't too old when I got it, I basicly was a fence but
still, 100 bucks and it was mine.
This one I found in a dumpster IN THE RAIN!!!!
I dried it out, waited 2 days, and it booted up and ran fine!!!!
STILL DOES!!!!! And the neat thing, is all the data and programs were
still intact, and had not been accessed since 1987!!!!!
>I try to keep disk images of all dos version ...just in case I need them!
>
I need to.....
I'm looking for Geoworks,DR DOS5 and desqview.
WessD
>I also am looking for any information on an
>early 1990's ramdisk board, this was written about in Byte, it was an
>AT bus card (maybe EISA) that used AC power. Any ideas?
>
>WessD
I got email from Jerry Pournelle, the scifi writer and the writer for
BYTE magazine, of which I was talking of about the ramdisk board.
I asked several questions including one about the board and if he had
the old files he said (this is lifed from the email)
" 3. I think I still have that bubble memory card. There were also
external
glass disks of what was then enormous capacity./
I fear I do not have electronic copies of the older BYTE articles.
They were
on 8" floppies....
Somewhere on teh intarweb "wessd" typed:
>> I also am looking for any information on an
>> early 1990's ramdisk board, this was written about in Byte, it was an
>> AT bus card (maybe EISA) that used AC power. Any ideas?
>>
>> WessD
>
>
> I got email from Jerry Pournelle, the scifi writer and the writer for
> BYTE magazine, of which I was talking of about the ramdisk board.
>
> I asked several questions including one about the board and if he had
> the old files he said (this is lifed from the email)
>
> " 3. I think I still have that bubble memory card. There were also
> external
> glass disks of what was then enormous capacity./
>
> I fear I do not have electronic copies of the older BYTE articles.
> They were
> on 8" floppies....
>
> Jerry Pournelle
> Chaos Manor "
>
>
> He replied at like 2am his time.
>
> WessD
Heh! I recognised the name Jerry Pournelle from years ago as he co-wrote
some sci-fi novels (with larry Niven amongst others) that I really enjoyed.
I didn't think it was the same guy though.
Small world.
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>
>Heh! I recognised the name Jerry Pournelle from years ago as he co-wrote
>some sci-fi novels (with larry Niven amongst others) that I really enjoyed.
>I didn't think it was the same guy though.
>
>Small world.
yup yup.
He has had health issues, but he still writes.
WessD
Somewhere on teh intarweb "wessd" typed:
>> Heh! I recognised the name Jerry Pournelle from years ago as he
>> co-wrote some sci-fi novels (with larry Niven amongst others) that I
>> really enjoyed. I didn't think it was the same guy though.
>>
>> Small world.
>
> yup yup.
>
> He has had health issues, but he still writes.
I'll have a look for some of his work next time I'm in the library. His is a
name I haven't heard or thought of for many years.
Cheers,
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