Anyone know how much this is worth in the UK?

WL-174 Wireless Network ADSL 2+ Modem Router 54g TURBO
http://www.sitecom.com/product.php?p...8&subgroupid=2

Thanks

bigJ wrote:
> WL-174 Wireless Network ADSL 2+ Modem Router 54g TURBO
> http://www.sitecom.com/product.php?p...8&subgroupid=2
>
> Thanks
>
>

Priced, but out of stock. "£49.99 Delivered"

http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/660/867...archtype=genre

Paul

"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f40or5$fqm$1@aioe.org...
> bigJ wrote:
>> WL-174 Wireless Network ADSL 2+ Modem Router 54g TURBO
>> http://www.sitecom.com/product.php?p...8&subgroupid=2
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
> Priced, but out of stock. "£49.99 Delivered"
>
> http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/660/867...archtype=genre
>
> Paul

Is that a reasonable price for a piece of kit like this though?

It was given to me and I want to ebay it and I have it on buy it now for
that sort of price but I haven't a clue if it is a realistic price. Play are
sometimes extremely competative and other times, way over priced.

I don't know much as this type of kit but from what I have seen I can find
similar products from other manufacturers for £35 ish but I don't know if
this has any special features that set it apart from other offerings.

Is it a desirable item at the moment or old news?

Thanks

Pete

bigJ wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f40or5$fqm$1@aioe.org...
>> bigJ wrote:
>>> WL-174 Wireless Network ADSL 2+ Modem Router 54g TURBO
>>> http://www.sitecom.com/product.php?p...8&subgroupid=2
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>> Priced, but out of stock. "£49.99 Delivered"
>>
>> http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/660/867...archtype=genre
>>
>> Paul
>
> Is that a reasonable price for a piece of kit like this though?
>
> It was given to me and I want to ebay it and I have it on buy it now for
> that sort of price but I haven't a clue if it is a realistic price. Play are
> sometimes extremely competative and other times, way over priced.
>
> I don't know much as this type of kit but from what I have seen I can find
> similar products from other manufacturers for £35 ish but I don't know if
> this has any special features that set it apart from other offerings.
>
> Is it a desirable item at the moment or old news?
>
> Thanks
>
> Pete
>
>

There are a couple boxes here, one at $95 US and one at $111. So perhaps
£50 is about right. In terms of specs, the box is pretty complete,
and would solve most of your networking problems, if ADSL was available
in your area. What I see missing perhaps, is WPA or WPA2 for security
on the wireless part. WEP is a bit weaker.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rchInDesc=adsl

The security standards are compared here. The second article claims
WEP can be cracked in about 1 minute, but I'd want to find an
independent assessment of that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPA2
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy

I notice when I look in local stores here, that there are fewer and
fewer wired routers, and more wireless. But I happen to like wired
routers. So the lack of WPA on that thing wouldn't bother me,
because I'd be disabling the wireless anyway. But I know, based
on how popular wireless is, that the majority of people reading
this, would likely want a fully usable wireless feature set.

So how popular is wireless in the UK, and how sensitive are
potential customers to security issues ? Those would be
questions I'd ask myself, when trying to pick a price.

Paul

"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f40t8j$st9$1@aioe.org...
> bigJ wrote:
>> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f40or5$fqm$1@aioe.org...
>>> bigJ wrote:
>>>> WL-174 Wireless Network ADSL 2+ Modem Router 54g TURBO
>>>> http://www.sitecom.com/product.php?p...8&subgroupid=2
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Priced, but out of stock. "£49.99 Delivered"
>>>
>>> http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/-/660/867...archtype=genre
>>>
>>> Paul
>>
>> Is that a reasonable price for a piece of kit like this though?
>>
>> It was given to me and I want to ebay it and I have it on buy it now for
>> that sort of price but I haven't a clue if it is a realistic price. Play
>> are sometimes extremely competative and other times, way over priced.
>>
>> I don't know much as this type of kit but from what I have seen I can
>> find similar products from other manufacturers for £35 ish but I don't
>> know if this has any special features that set it apart from other
>> offerings.
>>
>> Is it a desirable item at the moment or old news?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>
> There are a couple boxes here, one at $95 US and one at $111. So perhaps
> £50 is about right. In terms of specs, the box is pretty complete,
> and would solve most of your networking problems, if ADSL was available
> in your area. What I see missing perhaps, is WPA or WPA2 for security
> on the wireless part. WEP is a bit weaker.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rchInDesc=adsl
>
> The security standards are compared here. The second article claims
> WEP can be cracked in about 1 minute, but I'd want to find an
> independent assessment of that.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WPA2
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wired_Equivalent_Privacy
>
> I notice when I look in local stores here, that there are fewer and
> fewer wired routers, and more wireless. But I happen to like wired
> routers. So the lack of WPA on that thing wouldn't bother me,
> because I'd be disabling the wireless anyway. But I know, based
> on how popular wireless is, that the majority of people reading
> this, would likely want a fully usable wireless feature set.
>
> So how popular is wireless in the UK, and how sensitive are
> potential customers to security issues ? Those would be
> questions I'd ask myself, when trying to pick a price.
>
> Paul

Thanks for that Paul

I think it has WPA-WPA2. Here are the specs

Easily create and share a wireless broadband internet connection
a.. Ideal for downloading music, movies and large files
b.. Up tp 24 Mbps high speed downloading
c.. 125Mbps HI-SPEED Wireless
d.. WEP, WPA-WPA2 Data Encryption to secure your network
e.. Built in 4 Port Switch
Features:

a.. NAT/NAPT IP Sharing
b.. SPI Anti-DoS Firewall
c.. Virtual Server/DMZ
d.. IEEE 802.54g Turbo G Access Point
e.. Supports 64/128 Bit Key Length WEP Encryption
f.. Advanced Quality of Service (QoS) - 802.11e, WMM
g.. Supports Special Applications (Port Triggers)
h.. Supports DDNS (DynDNS, TZO)
i.. VPN Pass Through (IPSec/PPTP)
j.. Obtain WAN IP by PPPoE/Static IP/PPTP/DHCP/L2TP
k.. DHCP Server
l.. Web User Interface (Remote Configuration)
m.. System Status (Port Connectivity, DHCP MAC/IP Mapping)
n.. Security Log
o.. Firmware Upgrade
p.. Supports ADSL standard G.dmt, G.lite, G.992.3, G.992.4, G.992.5 (Annex
A)
Overview:

a.. Product: WL-174
b.. CPU: Trendchip TC3084
c.. Front End: Trendchip TC3162P
d.. RF: Ralink RT2561 ST
e.. Flash: 2 MB NOR Flash
f.. RAM: 8 MB SDRAM
g.. ADSL Ports: RJ-11 x 1
h.. LAN Ports: 10/100M UTP Port x 4
i.. Antenna: RP-SMA Detachable Antenna
j.. Power: 12V DC, 1A Linear Power Adaptor
k.. Dimension: 30(H)*187(W)*100(D) mm
l.. Temperature 10~40 oC
m.. Humidity 10~90% (Non-Condensing)
n.. Certification: FCC Class B, CE Mark

Package Contents:

a.. CD Rom
b.. Power Adapter
c.. User Manual
d.. Wall Mounting Bracket
e.. UTP and RJ-11 cables

bigJ wrote:
>
> Thanks for that Paul
>
> I think it has WPA-WPA2. Here are the specs
>
> Easily create and share a wireless broadband internet connection
> a.. Ideal for downloading music, movies and large files
> b.. Up tp 24 Mbps high speed downloading
> c.. 125Mbps HI-SPEED Wireless
> d.. WEP, WPA-WPA2 Data Encryption to secure your network
> e.. Built in 4 Port Switch
> Features:
>
> a.. NAT/NAPT IP Sharing
> b.. SPI Anti-DoS Firewall
> c.. Virtual Server/DMZ
> d.. IEEE 802.54g Turbo G Access Point
> e.. Supports 64/128 Bit Key Length WEP Encryption
> f.. Advanced Quality of Service (QoS) - 802.11e, WMM
> g.. Supports Special Applications (Port Triggers)
> h.. Supports DDNS (DynDNS, TZO)
> i.. VPN Pass Through (IPSec/PPTP)
> j.. Obtain WAN IP by PPPoE/Static IP/PPTP/DHCP/L2TP
> k.. DHCP Server
> l.. Web User Interface (Remote Configuration)
> m.. System Status (Port Connectivity, DHCP MAC/IP Mapping)
> n.. Security Log
> o.. Firmware Upgrade
> p.. Supports ADSL standard G.dmt, G.lite, G.992.3, G.992.4, G.992.5 (Annex
> A)
> Overview:
>
> a.. Product: WL-174
> b.. CPU: Trendchip TC3084
> c.. Front End: Trendchip TC3162P
> d.. RF: Ralink RT2561 ST
> e.. Flash: 2 MB NOR Flash
> f.. RAM: 8 MB SDRAM
> g.. ADSL Ports: RJ-11 x 1
> h.. LAN Ports: 10/100M UTP Port x 4
> i.. Antenna: RP-SMA Detachable Antenna
> j.. Power: 12V DC, 1A Linear Power Adaptor
> k.. Dimension: 30(H)*187(W)*100(D) mm
> l.. Temperature 10~40 oC
> m.. Humidity 10~90% (Non-Condensing)
> n.. Certification: FCC Class B, CE Mark
>
> Package Contents:
>
> a.. CD Rom
> b.. Power Adapter
> c.. User Manual
> d.. Wall Mounting Bracket
> e.. UTP and RJ-11 cables
>

Then all that remains, is "charging what the market will bear" :-)

Good luck,
Paul

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:53:24 GMT, "bigJ" <not@this.address>
wrote:


>Is that a reasonable price for a piece of kit like this though?
>
>It was given to me and I want to ebay it and I have it on buy it now for
>that sort of price but I haven't a clue if it is a realistic price.

For god's sake just sod off! What an *** to take up our time
trying to get the best ebay price when you could just search
ebay for what equivalent products were selling for!

No, it can't be a reasonable price as we can get a dd-wrt
firmware modible router for $35 USD delivered, which is
worth at least $15 more than a non-dd-wrt-modible variant

So at max the unit was worth $20 USB, delivered when NEW.
Used, it's hardly worth the shipping charge.

if you dont' care about what it's worth, only about what an
ebay bidding frenzy might fetch, then again you are an ***
to post here instead of just researching what equivalent
models fetch on ebay.

If you continue this behavior I PROMISE you I will have your
ISP cancel your account and have ebay cancel your auctions.
This is an unacceptible use of usenet, and no amount of
whining on your part will help you. There is no defense
that will save you against complaints! Do not waste our
time trying to maximize your ebay profits! What a
slimebag!

"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f40vog$4ns$1@aioe.org...
> bigJ wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for that Paul
>>
>> I think it has WPA-WPA2. Here are the specs
>>
>> Easily create and share a wireless broadband internet connection
>> a.. Ideal for downloading music, movies and large files
>> b.. Up tp 24 Mbps high speed downloading
>> c.. 125Mbps HI-SPEED Wireless
>> d.. WEP, WPA-WPA2 Data Encryption to secure your network
>> e.. Built in 4 Port Switch
>> Features:
>>
>> a.. NAT/NAPT IP Sharing
>> b.. SPI Anti-DoS Firewall
>> c.. Virtual Server/DMZ
>> d.. IEEE 802.54g Turbo G Access Point
>> e.. Supports 64/128 Bit Key Length WEP Encryption
>> f.. Advanced Quality of Service (QoS) - 802.11e, WMM
>> g.. Supports Special Applications (Port Triggers)
>> h.. Supports DDNS (DynDNS, TZO)
>> i.. VPN Pass Through (IPSec/PPTP)
>> j.. Obtain WAN IP by PPPoE/Static IP/PPTP/DHCP/L2TP
>> k.. DHCP Server
>> l.. Web User Interface (Remote Configuration)
>> m.. System Status (Port Connectivity, DHCP MAC/IP Mapping)
>> n.. Security Log
>> o.. Firmware Upgrade
>> p.. Supports ADSL standard G.dmt, G.lite, G.992.3, G.992.4, G.992.5
>> (Annex A)
>> Overview:
>>
>> a.. Product: WL-174
>> b.. CPU: Trendchip TC3084
>> c.. Front End: Trendchip TC3162P
>> d.. RF: Ralink RT2561 ST
>> e.. Flash: 2 MB NOR Flash
>> f.. RAM: 8 MB SDRAM
>> g.. ADSL Ports: RJ-11 x 1
>> h.. LAN Ports: 10/100M UTP Port x 4
>> i.. Antenna: RP-SMA Detachable Antenna
>> j.. Power: 12V DC, 1A Linear Power Adaptor
>> k.. Dimension: 30(H)*187(W)*100(D) mm
>> l.. Temperature 10~40 oC
>> m.. Humidity 10~90% (Non-Condensing)
>> n.. Certification: FCC Class B, CE Mark
>>
>> Package Contents:
>>
>> a.. CD Rom
>> b.. Power Adapter
>> c.. User Manual
>> d.. Wall Mounting Bracket
>> e.. UTP and RJ-11 cables
>
> Then all that remains, is "charging what the market will bear" :-)
>
> Good luck,
> Paul
>
>
>

Thank you very much for your time Paul.

It's a shame everyone you meet on the internet can't be as pleasant; I guess
some people have issues.

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:25:09 GMT, "bigJ" <not@this.address>
wrote:


>
>It's a shame everyone you meet on the internet can't be as pleasant; I guess
>some people have issues.


Why should we be pleasant when all you care about is trying
to take more ebay profit than you deserve?

Either make the effort to do the research yourself without
burdening others, or fvck off you whiny little prick.

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:058a63p5aee4ljros5m50rf3d332nsn4q3@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:25:09 GMT, "bigJ" <not@this.address>
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>It's a shame everyone you meet on the internet can't be as pleasant; I
>>guess
>>some people have issues.
>
>
> Why should we be pleasant when all you care about is trying
> to take more ebay profit than you deserve?
>
> Either make the effort to do the research yourself without
> burdening others, or fvck off you whiny little prick.
>

What ever

bigJ wrote:
> Thank you very much for your time Paul.

Don't thank him, pay him. After all, you're using him to maximise your
profit.

> It's a shame everyone you meet on the internet can't be as pleasant;
> I guess some people have issues.

Yeah, some people think that others should earn their money, perhaps by
doing research, rather than rely on the god nature of others. I'm one of
those people. I hope your auction is **** or the device craps out and you
have to refund.

Leech.
--
Shaun.