> I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
>card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
It might help to tell us more about exactly what this card
is, since Aztech is probably just a generic branding on a
card used by multiple relabelers. Not abbreviating terms
might help too, so we dont' have to try to decipher what "mm
pro 16 IIIs" means.
In general, one way to start looking is by the chipset the
card uses, you can find other brands with same and they may
have exact same design or at least similar enough to get the
info you need... but you didn't mention the info you need,
and sound cards are typically not needing any manual unless
you had a specific problem like trying to set jumpers.
The following page suggests HP is one OEM that used them,
and though their link to the manual doesnt work, it might be
that you can search HP's website to find it. http://tekgems.com/Products/et-4889-snd-5064-2620.htm
On Feb 7, 7:56 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
> I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
> card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
No manual, I did find the drivers. It's Ancient, and the drivers are
for windows 3.11, and 95, and nt4. Perhaps a readme file or something
is bundled in one of the driver downloads.
On Feb 7, 7:44 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On 7 Feb 2007 07:56:27 -0800, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> > I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
> >card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> > Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
>
> It might help to tell us more about exactly what this card
> is, since Aztech is probably just a generic branding on a
> card used by multiple relabelers. Not abbreviating terms
> might help too, so we dont' have to try to decipher what "mm
> pro 16 IIIs" means.
>
> In general, one way to start looking is by the chipset the
> card uses, you can find other brands with same and they may
> have exact same design or at least similar enough to get the
> info you need... but you didn't mention the info you need,
> and sound cards are typically not needing any manual unless
> you had a specific problem like trying to set jumpers.
>
> The following page suggests HP is one OEM that used them,
> and though their link to the manual doesnt work, it might be
> that you can search HP's website to find it.http://tekgems.com/Products/et-4889-snd-5064-2620.htm
Precisely. If I feel to need a manual it is mainly because of
the jumpers in this (triangular) card. The title of my post fully
identifies this well known sound card [Aztech is the manufacturer
brand, (AZT) 2320 is the (popular) model number, PnP indicates that it
is of the type "plug and play" (no legacy), and ISA refers to a now
obsolescent I/O bus standard for IBM-compatible PC motherboards but
also to the old, long (if they are for 16-bit buses as it is the case
here) and usually black slot sockets on motherboards]. "MM Pro 16IIIS/
SO PnP Sound Card v1.00" can be read after "Additional Information" in
the "README.TXT" file in the only disk which I got with the card, and
these terms are also identified in different Internet sites. This disk
contains drivers, and I have also found many drivers for this card in
Internet, but not a manual. The link you refer to was found soon, also
in other sites, but leading nowhere. Searches in the HP network and
other, including Aztech sites (where they declare not to be supporting
any of their sound cards any longer), did not give better results. I
said "desperately and unsuccessfully"... so far.
>On Feb 7, 7:44 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
>> On 7 Feb 2007 07:56:27 -0800, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
>> >card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>>
>> > Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
>>
>> It might help to tell us more about exactly what this card
>> is, since Aztech is probably just a generic branding on a
>> card used by multiple relabelers. Not abbreviating terms
>> might help too, so we dont' have to try to decipher what "mm
>> pro 16 IIIs" means.
>>
>> In general, one way to start looking is by the chipset the
>> card uses, you can find other brands with same and they may
>> have exact same design or at least similar enough to get the
>> info you need... but you didn't mention the info you need,
>> and sound cards are typically not needing any manual unless
>> you had a specific problem like trying to set jumpers.
>>
>> The following page suggests HP is one OEM that used them,
>> and though their link to the manual doesnt work, it might be
>> that you can search HP's website to find it.http://tekgems.com/Products/et-4889-snd-5064-2620.htm
>
> Precisely. If I feel to need a manual it is mainly because of
>the jumpers in this (triangular) card. The title of my post fully
>identifies this well known sound card [Aztech is the manufacturer
>brand, (AZT) 2320 is the (popular) model number, PnP indicates that it
>is of the type "plug and play" (no legacy), and ISA refers to a now
>obsolescent I/O bus standard for IBM-compatible PC motherboards but
>also to the old, long (if they are for 16-bit buses as it is the case
>here) and usually black slot sockets on motherboards]. "MM Pro 16IIIS/
>SO PnP Sound Card v1.00" can be read after "Additional Information" in
>the "README.TXT" file in the only disk which I got with the card, and
>these terms are also identified in different Internet sites. This disk
>contains drivers, and I have also found many drivers for this card in
>Internet, but not a manual. The link you refer to was found soon, also
>in other sites, but leading nowhere. Searches in the HP network and
>other, including Aztech sites (where they declare not to be supporting
>any of their sound cards any longer), did not give better results. I
>said "desperately and unsuccessfully"... so far.
The next step would then tend to be as mentioned above,
taking the specific chipset it uses and searching for other
cards using same with the hope one of those has the manual
or at least some peer support data available to address your
needs.
If you were lucky enough to find datasheets for the chipset,
you might even be able to trace back the circuit from the
jumper header to determine the header pinout.
On 8 feb, 07:34, "pau...@efn.org" <pau...@efn.org> wrote:
> On Feb 7, 7:56 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
> > card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> > Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
>
> No manual, I did find the drivers. It's Ancient, and the drivers are
> for windows 3.11, and 95, and nt4. Perhaps a readme file or something
> is bundled in one of the driver downloads.
>
> http://www.aztech.com/support_download_soundcard01.html
>
> Aztech is pretty good about providing drivers, for all their stuff,
> including rebranded cards.
>
> There are 3 possibilities, based on the chipset.
>
> Aztech Waverider Platinum-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> Sound Galaxy Pro 16III-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> Sound Galaxy Waverider 32-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
Thanks for your link, which I had not reached before because,
although I had already consulted http://www.aztech.com/support_download.html,
where they specifically state "We regret that we no longer able to
provide active support or update for the following end-of-life (EOL)
products due to limited support from the chipsets manufacturer. [...]
* All models of sound cards", I saw that my card model was not
comprised amongst those listed therein. However, it seems that no ISA
card is mentioned in the link, is it? Hence I guess that the card
layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
chipset is common.
On Feb 9, 6:28 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
> On 8 feb, 07:34, "pau...@efn.org" <pau...@efn.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 7, 7:56 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
> > > card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> > > Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
>
> > No manual, I did find the drivers. It's Ancient, and the drivers are
> > for windows 3.11, and 95, and nt4. Perhaps a readme file or something
> > is bundled in one of the driver downloads.
>
> >http://www.aztech.com/support_download_soundcard01.html
>
> > Aztech is pretty good about providing drivers, for all their stuff,
> > including rebranded cards.
>
> > There are 3 possibilities, based on the chipset.
>
> > Aztech Waverider Platinum-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> > Sound Galaxy Pro 16III-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> > Sound Galaxy Waverider 32-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> Thanks for your link, which I had not reached before because,
> although I had already consultedhttp://www.aztech.com/support_download.html,
> where they specifically state "We regret that we no longer able to
> provide active support or update for the following end-of-life (EOL)
> products due to limited support from the chipsets manufacturer. [...]
> * All models of sound cards", I saw that my card model was not
> comprised amongst those listed therein. However, it seems that no ISA
> card is mentioned in the link, is it? Hence I guess that the card
> layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
> chipset is common.
Have a look at the silk screen, Often times it will tell you things
like jumper settings. Though they abbreviate heavily, and not always
consistently. You're looking for irqs and so forth. What gets me is
this is supposed to be a pnp card, which means that irqs should be
automatic. But cards of a certain age may have a manual override, as
seems to be the case here. Try removing all the jumpers and see it
that works. Also try looking for a the keyword pnp, or auto somewhere
on the silk screen.
>Hence I guess that the card
>layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
>chipset is common.
It is premature to assume layout, manual and jumpers are
completely different. It is quite common for different
brands to use exact same (or very nearly so) reference
designs, even to have same manufacturer make cards for
multiple labels. Manual might be formatted differently, but
odds are reasonable that the jumper settings are helpful.
On Feb 9, 6:00 pm, "pau...@efn.org" <pau...@efn.org> wrote:
> On Feb 9, 6:28 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 8 feb, 07:34, "pau...@efn.org" <pau...@efn.org> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 7, 7:56 am, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > > I am desperately and unsuccessfully looking for a manual for the
> > > > card of the subject (MM Pro 16 IIIS/SO).
>
> > > > Has anyone got it or know where might I (try to) find it?
>
> > > No manual, I did find the drivers. It's Ancient, and the drivers are
> > > for windows 3.11, and 95, and nt4. Perhaps a readme file or something
> > > is bundled in one of the driver downloads.
>
> > >http://www.aztech.com/support_download_soundcard01.html
>
> > > Aztech is pretty good about providing drivers, for all their stuff,
> > > including rebranded cards.
>
> > > There are 3 possibilities, based on the chipset.
>
> > > Aztech Waverider Platinum-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> > > Sound Galaxy Pro 16III-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> > > Sound Galaxy Waverider 32-3D PnP - using AZT-2320 Chipset
> > > FCC-ID:I38-MMSN853
>
> > Thanks for your link, which I had not reached before because,
> > although I had already consultedhttp://www.aztech.com/support_download.html,
> > where they specifically state "We regret that we no longer able to
> > provide active support or update for the following end-of-life (EOL)
> > products due to limited support from the chipsets manufacturer. [...]
> > * All models of sound cards", I saw that my card model was not
> > comprised amongst those listed therein. However, it seems that no ISA
> > card is mentioned in the link, is it? Hence I guess that the card
> > layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
> > chipset is common.
>
> Have a look at the silk screen, Often times it will tell you things
> like jumper settings. Though they abbreviate heavily, and not always
> consistently. You're looking for irqs and so forth. What gets me is
> this is supposed to be a pnp card, which means that irqs should be
> automatic. But cards of a certain age may have a manual override, as
> seems to be the case here. Try removing all the jumpers and see it
> that works. Also try looking for a the keyword pnp, or auto somewhere
> on the silk screen.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
All the silk screen references are as follow: FCC ID: I38-SN96104
250
1012
E 64147
050-017503-203
800-
C31069-A30
ACSC70418677
MM PRO
16 IIIS + PNP BP
0297
FT01
AV-0
CN
There are three jumpers: JX1 (type of mic.)
JX2 (DC OUT)
MIC (?)
We have tried to find a manual or guide mentioning I38-SN96104 or just
SN96104, but to no avail.
On Feb 9, 8:42 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
> On 9 Feb 2007 06:28:58 -0800, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
> >Hence I guess that the card
> >layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
> >chipset is common.
>
> It is premature to assume layout, manual and jumpers are
> completely different. It is quite common for different
> brands to use exact same (or very nearly so) reference
> designs, even to have same manufacturer make cards for
> multiple labels. Manual might be formatted differently, but
> odds are reasonable that the jumper settings are helpful.
The very main IC on board reads Aztech AZT 2320. We have tried to get
a manual or guide using these references again, but unsuccessfully.
>On Feb 9, 8:42 pm, kony <s...@spam.com> wrote:
>> On 9 Feb 2007 06:28:58 -0800, A.MARTIN.Vice...@gmail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Hence I guess that the card
>> >layout, manual and jumpers would be completely different even if the
>> >chipset is common.
>>
>> It is premature to assume layout, manual and jumpers are
>> completely different. It is quite common for different
>> brands to use exact same (or very nearly so) reference
>> designs, even to have same manufacturer make cards for
>> multiple labels. Manual might be formatted differently, but
>> odds are reasonable that the jumper settings are helpful.
>
>The very main IC on board reads Aztech AZT 2320. We have tried to get
>a manual or guide using these references again, but unsuccessfully.
Is that the chip marking or a sticker on it? If a sticker,
peel that back and see what it is.
There is no need to guess the jumpers would be different
than another card, it is more common that they are not!
Aztech has sold cards that were identical to other branded
cards in the past, it is worth looking into other cards with
the same chipset and what their jumpers are. You can
possibly, also visually trace back the leads from the
jumpers to confirm that they at least go to the chip, or use
a multimeter to confirm none are power so you have minimized
a risk by putting a jumper on two.
Aztech AZT2320 PnP ISA sound card manual 
Linear Mode
