Does the Firewire standard allow from booting from externally connected
firewire drives? I find it kinda odd that I can boot from USB drives, but
not from a firewire drive.
I'd prefer to connect my DVDRW drives to the PC using firewire, but it's
kinda pointless if I have to switch to USB when loading an OS, or booting
from a utility disk.
Firewire is primarily an Apple standard. PC's primarily use USB 2, thus the
PC boot sequence has accepted USB 2, but not Firewire.
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DaveW
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"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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> Just wondering...
>
> Does the Firewire standard allow from booting from externally connected
> firewire drives? I find it kinda odd that I can boot from USB drives, but
> not from a firewire drive.
>
> I'd prefer to connect my DVDRW drives to the PC using firewire, but it's
> kinda pointless if I have to switch to USB when loading an OS, or booting
> from a utility disk.
>
>
>
DaveW wrote:
>
> Firewire is primarily an Apple standard. PC's primarily use USB 2,
> thus the PC boot sequence has accepted USB 2, but not Firewire.
Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
irrelevant material. See the following links:
Please don't hijack posts. It's rude to start a new topic on top of someone
elses.
"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> DaveW wrote:
>>
>> Firewire is primarily an Apple standard. PC's primarily use USB 2,
>> thus the PC boot sequence has accepted USB 2, but not Firewire.
>
> Please do not top-post. Your answer belongs after (or intermixed
> with) the quoted material to which you reply, after snipping all
> irrelevant material. See the following links:
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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 03:07:48 GMT, "Noozer"
<dont.spam@me.here> wrote:
>Just wondering...
>
>Does the Firewire standard allow from booting from externally connected
>firewire drives? I find it kinda odd that I can boot from USB drives, but
>not from a firewire drive.
>
>I'd prefer to connect my DVDRW drives to the PC using firewire, but it's
>kinda pointless if I have to switch to USB when loading an OS, or booting
>from a utility disk.
>
>
Booting from any device interface type, whether it be USB or
firewire, etc, depends on the bios support, and
user-selected bios settings for seeking/using a viable boot
device connected to that controller. So there is no matter
of the firewire standard, nor USB as it is not inherantly
more bootable, just far more likely to be supported on a
_PC_. So it seems most likely your bios doesn't support
as most don't, and you'll need to either put one drive on
USB or copy over the contents of the DVDs/etc onto another
USB device.
Why not just use a PATA or SATA optical drive like most
systems do?
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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> Please don't hijack posts. It's rude to start a new topic on top of
> someone elses.
Top posting is confusing as it loses the flow of the post. As you can see
anything below a top-posted reply is cut off, so everythig before your reply
is gone, so anyone missing out a message in the flow, won't be able to
figure out what we are talking about!
This post is a perfect example. From other posting in this thread, I believe
this message to be part of a thread discussing firewire but my news provider
has missed the reply you posted, I only see CBFalconer's reply asking you to
post properly, so all I can see on this thread is above this text!
Alot of people don't realise that all text following the double minus sign
(in some signatures) is removed, so when you top-post and someone replies to
your top-post, all text below their signature (now in the middle of the
message) is lost. Even if the text is not lost, then the flow is totally
disrupted and renders the thread unreadable.
....and what does this have to do with booting from a firewire drive?
"GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:PofVh.89717$aG1.89644@pd7urf3no...
>> Please don't hijack posts. It's rude to start a new topic on top of
>> someone elses.
>
> Top posting is confusing as it loses the flow of the post. As you can see
> anything below a top-posted reply is cut off, so everythig before your
> reply is gone, so anyone missing out a message in the flow, won't be able
> to figure out what we are talking about!
>
> This post is a perfect example. From other posting in this thread, I
> believe this message to be part of a thread discussing firewire but my
> news provider has missed the reply you posted, I only see CBFalconer's
> reply asking you to post properly, so all I can see on this thread is
> above this text!
>
> Alot of people don't realise that all text following the double minus sign
> (in some signatures) is removed, so when you top-post and someone replies
> to your top-post, all text below their signature (now in the middle of the
> message) is lost. Even if the text is not lost, then the flow is totally
> disrupted and renders the thread unreadable.
>
Noozer wrote: *** top-posting corrected ***
> "GT" <ContactGT_remove_@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>>
>>> Please don't hijack posts. It's rude to start a new topic on top
>>> of someone elses.
>>
>> Top posting is confusing as it loses the flow of the post. As you
>> can see anything below a top-posted reply is cut off, so everythig
>> before your reply is gone, so anyone missing out a message in the
>> flow, won't be able to figure out what we are talking about!
>>
>> This post is a perfect example. From other posting in this thread,
>> I believe this message to be part of a thread discussing firewire
>> but my news provider has missed the reply you posted, I only see
>> CBFalconer's reply asking you to post properly, so all I can see
>> on this thread is above this text!
>>
>> Alot of people don't realise that all text following the double
>> minus sign (in some signatures) is removed, so when you top-post
>> and someone replies to your top-post, all text below their
>> signature (now in the middle of the message) is lost. Even if the
>> text is not lost, then the flow is totally disrupted and renders
>> the thread unreadable.
>
> ...and what does this have to do with booting from a firewire drive?
Very little, but it has to do with the format of posts.
"A man who is right every time is not likely to do very much."
-- Francis Crick, co-discover of DNA
"There is nothing more amazing than stupidity in action."
-- Thomas Matthews
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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> ...and what does this have to do with booting from a firewire drive?
Your question doesn't make any sense, you posted above everything, so I
don't know what topic you are commenting on. To answer your question on face
value: your post has nothing to do with booting from a firewire drive, why
do you ask?
I have been running PCLinuxOS from a laptop and an external usb sata drive with good
response time. I found a sata firewire/usb backup drive that was not being used.
I bought a firewire cable and started experimenting. My laptop bios does not recognize firewire.
Only after linux has booted is the firewire device available.
Got tired of playing with Grub and initrd.img:
1. Plugged in a 1G usb pen drive: formatted as a linux native partition (blank).
2. Hooked up the external drive with firewire cable.
3. Booted the latest PCLinuxOS livecd.
4. Installed to the firewire drive.
5. Included the 1G usb drive in the install with a mount of /boot.
6. Installed the Grub mulit-boot to the 1G usb drive, at the end of the install process.
7. Rebooted, pressing F12 for boot menu.
8. Selected boot from usb.
9. Multi-boot menu appeared and I selected the default linux entry.
10. Boot process began and the firewire drive woke up and took over the boot process.
11. Logged on to the new install and have been running faster (than external usb) ever since.
Note: this should work on any bootable partition.
I leave the 1G pen drive attached because it contains the /boot directory. It would be
required for system updates of the kernel or boot process, though it does not seem to be accessed after the boot process is completed.
Buffered read comparsions:
non-sata usb: 23mb
internal sata: 27mb
external usb sata: 27-32mb
external firewire sata: 38.3mb - through-put is noticeably faster with less cpu usage.
Boot from FireWire? 
Linear Mode
