Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP PC.
A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD, waiting 10
seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours. Plugged it
back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front of the HD
blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed'
drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections inside the HD
case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
J Lunis wrote:
> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP
> PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
> suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
> waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
> Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the
> front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this
> indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery
> outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections inside
> the HD
> case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
Remove it from the case and install it as a secondary drive in the PC case.
"J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP PC.
> A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
> suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD, waiting 10 seconds
> and plugging the power back in. I waited hours. Plugged it back in but
> it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front of the HD blinking
> continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and
> suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
> I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections inside the HD
> case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>
If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help. There is a
Trade `trick`.
Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for a few
hours, then slave it again.
I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax software ?.
bw..OJ
If you have a home vacuum sealer (Food Saver, etc), they work very well for
this method- it removes all the air and moisture from the bag a seals it so
that condensation isn't a problem.
old jon wrote:
> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>
>>Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP PC.
>>A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
>>suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD, waiting 10 seconds
>>and plugging the power back in. I waited hours. Plugged it back in but
>>it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front of the HD blinking
>>continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and
>>suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
>>I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections inside the HD
>>case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>
>
> If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help. There is a
> Trade `trick`.
> Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for a few
> hours, then slave it again.
> I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax software ?.
> bw..OJ
>
>
Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't know
the Maxtor is plugged in?
old guy wrote:
> old jon wrote:
>> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>
>>> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP
>>> PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
>>> suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>> waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
>>> Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the
>>> front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this
>>> indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send it to a data
>>> recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail because of
>>> connections inside the
>>> HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>
>>
>> If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>> There is a Trade `trick`.
>> Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for a
>> few hours, then slave it again.
>> I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax software
>> ?. bw..OJ
>>
>>
> Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't know
> the Maxtor is plugged in?
Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer case.
Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions further you will have
to supply more system specs.
Jimmy wrote:
> old guy wrote:
>
>>old jon wrote:
>>
>>>"J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my XP
>>>>PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC. Maxtor
>>>>suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>>>waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
>>>>Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the
>>>>front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this
>>>>indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send it to a data
>>>>recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail because of
>>>>connections inside the
>>>>HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>>>Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>>>Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>>>Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>>
>>>
>>>If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>>>There is a Trade `trick`.
>>>Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for a
>>>few hours, then slave it again.
>>>I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax software
>>>?. bw..OJ
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't know
>>the Maxtor is plugged in?
>
>
> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer case.
> Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions further you will have
> to supply more system specs.
>
>
> <snip>
>>
>> Remove it from the case and install it as a secondary drive in the PC
>> case.
>>
>>
>>
>
> this is good advice...as the drive may be ok...
> but just the controller failed
So why not just use another IDE-USB adapter (they're like $20 from newegg)?
One of my old WD hard drives developed problems once & wouldn't boot.
Probably a problem with the logic board. I put it in an IDE-USB adapter &
recovered all the data no probs.
Worst case senario you can take it to a good repair guy who has a magnetic
force microscope for sector-by-sector data recovery
Analabha Roy wrote:
> philo wrote:
>
>
>><snip>
>>
>>> Remove it from the case and install it as a secondary drive in the PC
>>> case.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>this is good advice...as the drive may be ok...
>>but just the controller failed
>
>
> So why not just use another IDE-USB adapter (they're like $20 from newegg)?
> One of my old WD hard drives developed problems once & wouldn't boot.
> Probably a problem with the logic board. I put it in an IDE-USB adapter &
> recovered all the data no probs.
>
> Worst case senario you can take it to a good repair guy who has a magnetic
> force microscope for sector-by-sector data recovery
On Wed, 17 Aug 2005 12:37:57 -0400, J Lunis
<jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote:
>Analabha Roy wrote:
>> philo wrote:
>>
>>
>>><snip>
>>>
>>>> Remove it from the case and install it as a secondary drive in the PC
>>>> case.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>this is good advice...as the drive may be ok...
>>>but just the controller failed
>>
>>
>> So why not just use another IDE-USB adapter (they're like $20 from newegg)?
>> One of my old WD hard drives developed problems once & wouldn't boot.
>> Probably a problem with the logic board. I put it in an IDE-USB adapter &
>> recovered all the data no probs.
>>
>> Worst case senario you can take it to a good repair guy who has a magnetic
>> force microscope for sector-by-sector data recovery
>
>OK, so what is an IDE-USB adapter.
It simply recreates the same logical connection your drive
already had, that the drive plugs into an external circuit
board with an IDE-USB bridge on it, allowing connection of
the HDD to the system via USB.
The IDE-USB adapter is not needed unless your system won't
boot with the drive connected to a standard motherboard IDE
port. Providing it will boot, (and providing the bios is
set to auto-detect the drive) you can then boot windows and
attempt to copy off the data. _IF_ that is successful, then
boot the HDD manufacturer's utility disc and have it check
the drive.
If the system wouldn't boot with it connected to the IDE
motherboard port, the IDE-USB cable allows booting the
system prior to (attempted) use of the drive. IF you buy an
IDE-USB adapter, be sure to get one with it's own power
supply (or connect drive to one of the system's power plugs)
instead of trying to reuse the power supply from the
original enclosure- as it too is a potential failure point.
J Lunis wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
>> old guy wrote:
>>
>>> old jon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my
>>>>> XP PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
>>>>> Maxtor suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>>>> waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited
>>>>> hours. Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an
>>>>> LED on the front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes.
>>>>> Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send
>>>>> it to a data recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail
>>>>> because of
>>>>> connections inside the
>>>>> HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>>>> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>>>> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>>>> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>>>> There is a Trade `trick`.
>>>> Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for
>>>> a few hours, then slave it again.
>>>> I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax
>>>> software ?. bw..OJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't
>>> know the Maxtor is plugged in?
>>
>>
>> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer
>> case. Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions further
>> you will have to supply more system specs.
>>
>>
>
> Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LE
> KIT: X01USB2040
I meant about the PC. If you need to know how to install the drive in PC it
would help to know what case you have. Is there only one drive installed at
present? There should be space with brackets and cables ready for adding the
second HDD. A simple inspection should reveal the ease of this. You may need
a ribbon cable with additional connector but other than that you should be
ready to go.
J Lunis wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
>> old guy wrote:
>>
>>> old jon wrote:
>>>
>>>> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my
>>>>> XP PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
>>>>> Maxtor suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>>>> waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited
>>>>> hours. Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an
>>>>> LED on the front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes.
>>>>> Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send
>>>>> it to a data recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail
>>>>> because of
>>>>> connections inside the
>>>>> HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>>>> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>>>> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>>>> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>>>> There is a Trade `trick`.
>>>> Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for
>>>> a few hours, then slave it again.
>>>> I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax
>>>> software ?. bw..OJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't
>>> know the Maxtor is plugged in?
>>
>>
>> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer
>> case. Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions further
>> you will have to supply more system specs.
>>
>>
>
> Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LE
> KIT: X01USB2040
Also: the jumper should be set for secondary drive which should be indicated
on the HDD case.
Jimmy wrote:
> J Lunis wrote:
>
>>Jimmy wrote:
>>
>>>old guy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>old jon wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my
>>>>>>XP PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
>>>>>>Maxtor suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>>>>>waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited
>>>>>>hours. Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice an
>>>>>>LED on the front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes.
>>>>>>Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send
>>>>>>it to a data recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail
>>>>>>because of
>>>>>>connections inside the
>>>>>>HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it readable.
>>>>>>Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>>>>>Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>>>>>Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>>>>>There is a Trade `trick`.
>>>>>Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge for
>>>>>a few hours, then slave it again.
>>>>>I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax
>>>>>software ?. bw..OJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't
>>>>know the Maxtor is plugged in?
>>>
>>>
>>> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer
>>>case. Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions further
>>>you will have to supply more system specs.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LE
>>KIT: X01USB2040
>
>
> I meant about the PC. If you need to know how to install the drive in PC it
> would help to know what case you have. Is there only one drive installed at
> present? There should be space with brackets and cables ready for adding the
> second HDD. A simple inspection should reveal the ease of this. You may need
> a ribbon cable with additional connector but other than that you should be
> ready to go.
>
>
>
OK, Dell Dimension 8300. I have added an internal DVD player. Nutin else.
J Lunis wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
>> J Lunis wrote:
>>
>>> Jimmy wrote:
>>>
>>>> old guy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> old jon wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to my
>>>>>>> XP PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by
>>>>>>> the PC. Maxtor suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to
>>>>>>> the HD, waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I
>>>>>>> waited hours. Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did notice
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> LED on the front of the HD blinking continuously for minutes.
>>>>>>> Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests I send
>>>>>>> it to a data recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs can fail
>>>>>>> because of
>>>>>>> connections inside the
>>>>>>> HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
>>>>>>> readable. Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>>>>>> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is salvagable?
>>>>>>> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If installing it as a slave drive in your computer, doesn`t help.
>>>>>> There is a Trade `trick`.
>>>>>> Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the fridge
>>>>>> for a few hours, then slave it again.
>>>>>> I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors` Powermax
>>>>>> software ?. bw..OJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC doesn't
>>>>> know the Maxtor is plugged in?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the computer
>>>> case. Usually under the main drive. If you need instructions
>>>> further you will have to supply more system specs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LE
>>> KIT: X01USB2040
>>
>>
>> I meant about the PC. If you need to know how to install the drive
>> in PC it would help to know what case you have. Is there only one
>> drive installed at present? There should be space with brackets and
>> cables ready for adding the second HDD. A simple inspection should
>> reveal the ease of this. You may need a ribbon cable with additional
>> connector but other than that you should be ready to go.
>>
>>
>>
> OK, Dell Dimension 8300. I have added an internal DVD player. Nutin
> else.
I am not familiar with that PC but if you look for a place to mount the
drive or just for testing you need not even do that. I have a PC with 4
drives on their sides on the bottom the case and are actually better that
way for venting. You will need a power connection which should be available
not used from powersupply. Inspecting the system main drive will show the
cables you will be looking for. The ribbon cable is the one you might have
to purchase if the one in you PC does not have an extra connector. You will
need to set the jumper to the slave setting as indicated on drive label or
mfg. website. With the drive properly set and plugged in you should boot to
BIOS to auto detect the new installation and boot to windows. You should see
the drive in My Computer if it is indeed functioning. (System must be
unplugged from all cables as you attempt the installation). Post back with
results.
"" wrote:
> Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to
> my XP PC.
> A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
> Maxtor
> suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
> waiting 10
> seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
> Plugged it
> back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front
> of the HD
> blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates
> a 'failed'
> drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
> I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections
> inside the HD
> case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
> readable.
> Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
> Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is
> salvagable?
> Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
OK, I second or third the idea of removing the drive from the case and
install it in a PC as a slave drive. I would also check the connection
inside the external case to the hard drive.I am sorry about your drive
but glad you have posted because I think people are misled with data
recovery
Hard drives usually fail for one of two basic reasons.Firstly power is
either not transmitted or short circuited. Putting it in the freezer
will not help. If you really need the data , often the printed circuit
controller boards on hard drives can be replaced, even if it is
tempory to power the drive up and recover the data. The second and
often bigger challenge are internal problems which may include
something physically broken or distorted. For example when a system
boots up but due to distortion it loses recognition of the partition,(
sometimes the freezer will help)
Without a lot of info I am being broad.Your drive is not booting and
it seems to be a power problem...??????
I second what Analabha has said. I also foudn an USB-IDE adaptor got me
data off a drive that I couldn't even boto from!. I had droppe the
drive down a flight of stairs.
Internal HDDs like yours, have on the back a connector. This connector
is called IDE. So a USB-IDE adaptor lets you plug an internal HDD
into the USB socket externally.
You can also try putting the HDD in the freezer. ut that's advanced HDD
recovery. BTW, the more you try things with your drive the less likely
you'll be able to get teh data back.
And Maxtor have a reputation for being crap. I suggest just geting
this USB-IDE adaptor. It's safest bet. They're not expensive, check
ebay. And they're good to have aroudn anyway.
jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> most commonlycalled USB-IDE adaptors!
>
> I second what Analabha has said. I also foudn an USB-IDE adaptor got
> me data off a drive that I couldn't even boto from!. I had droppe the
> drive down a flight of stairs.
>
> Internal HDDs like yours, have on the back a connector. This connector
> is called IDE. So a USB-IDE adaptor lets you plug an internal HDD
> into the USB socket externally.
>
> You can also try putting the HDD in the freezer. ut that's advanced
> HDD recovery. BTW, the more you try things with your drive the less
> likely you'll be able to get teh data back.
>
> And Maxtor have a reputation for being crap. I suggest just geting
> this USB-IDE adaptor. It's safest bet. They're not expensive, check
> ebay. And they're good to have aroudn anyway.
I have had great luck with dozens of Maxtor drives. Saying they are crap
discredits you and all you say.
> >
> > And Maxtor have a reputation for being crap. I suggest just geting
> > this USB-IDE adaptor. It's safest bet. They're not expensive, check
> > ebay. And they're good to have aroudn anyway.
>
> I have had great luck with dozens of Maxtor drives. Saying they are crap
> discredits you and all you say.
ok. Maxtor did in the past have a terrible reputation. I have heard
reports over the past 6 months of people saying Maxtor are ok or
good(though prior to that, everybody said they were crap). So, maybe
that's enough of a period for me to reevaluate my opinion on Maxtor.
Makes change. And it's extremely important to know which are good and
which are crap - for each component.
Thus far for example. There is no debate that Asus Abit MSI Gigabyte,
are all good makes. In that order. I'm always open to know when
thigns change. But it's extremely important to be informed on this.
AFter hearing that maxtor was bad for a long time. Then overa period of
some months having a couple of people saying they haven't had problems.
Wasn't quite enough to say MAxtor are 'not crap' or are even good. But
I guess now they have changed. I won't say they're crap anymore. And
if i hear more good reports, i'll say they're good.
>Thus far for example. There is no debate that Asus Abit MSI Gigabyte,
>are all good makes. In that order. I'm always open to know when
>thigns change. But it's extremely important to be informed on this.
I have an MSI and it has worked for me.
>AFter hearing that maxtor was bad for a long time. Then overa period of
>some months having a couple of people saying they haven't had problems.
>Wasn't quite enough to say MAxtor are 'not crap' or are even good. But
>I guess now they have changed. I won't say they're crap anymore. And
>if i hear more good reports, i'll say they're good.
I save myself all that agony and just buy WD. Over the years it has
provided very reliable service. A colleague at an oil company tells me
they went to Maxtor after years with WD. He had no reason - I guess
Maxtor paid off the purchasing agent. The point is that Maxtor is a
reliable drive today, but I still buy WD because I know of no issues
over the past 10 years.
BTW, it is crucial that any HD be kept as cool as possible. Heat is
the hidden variable when people report drive problems. I am currently
running a 30GB WD I bought 5 years ago for a system I just retired. It
now serves as a spare drive in a removable bay. Everest SMART reports
that it is in "like-new" condition(*).
I made sure it was always operated around 35C. For example I have two
80 GB WD drives running at the moment - both are in removeable drive
bays. Both are at 35C based on SMART readings thru Everest.
WD reports that the operating range is 5-55C. However 55C is way too
hot. Keep the drive around 35C and it will last a very long time. Fans
are cheap if you mount it internally. Kingwin KF-23 removable bays
have three fans.
--
(*) I extracted the SMART report from Everest and posted it. The
comments that came back included a statement that the drive is in
"like new" condition.
jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
>> jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>
>>>
>>> And Maxtor have a reputation for being crap. I suggest just geting
>>> this USB-IDE adaptor. It's safest bet. They're not expensive, check
>>> ebay. And they're good to have aroudn anyway.
>>
>> I have had great luck with dozens of Maxtor drives. Saying they
>> are crap discredits you and all you say.
>
> ok. Maxtor did in the past have a terrible reputation. I have heard
> reports over the past 6 months of people saying Maxtor are ok or
> good(though prior to that, everybody said they were crap). So, maybe
> that's enough of a period for me to reevaluate my opinion on Maxtor.
> Makes change. And it's extremely important to know which are good and
> which are crap - for each component.
>
> Thus far for example. There is no debate that Asus Abit MSI Gigabyte,
> are all good makes. In that order. I'm always open to know when
> thigns change. But it's extremely important to be informed on this.
>
> AFter hearing that maxtor was bad for a long time. Then overa period
> of some months having a couple of people saying they haven't had
> problems. Wasn't quite enough to say MAxtor are 'not crap' or are
> even good. But I guess now they have changed. I won't say they're
> crap anymore. And if i hear more good reports, i'll say they're good.
Ok, I accept your apology ;)
I have had Maxtor for years and still have 10Giggers and older that are
working fine. More important to take care of them no matter what they are.
I once said WD was te best make. And a load of ppl said "NO WAY" WD ARE
TERRIBLE". They mentioned the WD40 and WD80. Said it had serious
jumper problems. Only operating when the cable was set to cable select.
And another problem of only working alongside another WD drive!!!
jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
> I once said WD was te best make. And a load of ppl said "NO WAY" WD
> ARE TERRIBLE". They mentioned the WD40 and WD80. Said it had serious
> jumper problems. Only operating when the cable was set to cable
> select. And another problem of only working alongside another WD
> drive!!!
I am sure you will find that through the years most HHDs have had lemon
models and bad reports to match. Hence the phenomenon and the "That drive is
crap" syndrome.
>I once said WD was te best make. And a load of ppl said "NO WAY" WD ARE
>TERRIBLE". They mentioned the WD40 and WD80. Said it had serious
>jumper problems. Only operating when the cable was set to cable select.
>And another problem of only working alongside another WD drive!!!
I'd take all that with a grain of salt. There are people who are
incapable of understanding simple logic.
"" wrote:
> Jimmy wrote:
> > J Lunis wrote:
> >
> >>Jimmy wrote:
> >>
> >>>old guy wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>old jon wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>"J Lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>news:qnrMe.9928$0E5.2813@fe05.lga...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive
> connected to my
> >>>>>>XP PC. A few days ago I found it was no longer
> recognized by the PC.
> >>>>>>Maxtor suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to
> the HD,
> >>>>>>waiting 10 seconds and plugging the power back in. I
> waited
> >>>>>>hours. Plugged it back in but it didn't help. I did
> notice an
> >>>>>>LED on the front of the HD blinking continuously for
> minutes.
> >>>>>>Maxtor says this indicates a 'failed' drive and suggests
> I send
> >>>>>>it to a data recovery outfit. I have read some USB HDs
> can fail
> >>>>>>because of
> >>>>>>connections inside the
> >>>>>>HD case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
> readable.
> >>>>>>Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
> >>>>>>Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is
> salvagable?
> >>>>>>Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>If installing it as a slave drive in your computer,
> doesn`t help.
> >>>>>There is a Trade `trick`.
> >>>>>Seal the drive in a waterproof bag, and stick it in the
> fridge for
> >>>>>a few hours, then slave it again.
> >>>>>I suppose you have checked the drive with Maxtors`
> Powermax
> >>>>>software ?. bw..OJ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Have no idea what this is. How would I use it if the PC
> doesn't
> >>>>know the Maxtor is plugged in?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Remove the drive from the USB case and mount it inside the
> computer
> >>>case. Usually under the main drive. If you need
> instructions further
> >>>you will have to supply more system specs.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> Maxtor Personal Storage 3000LE
> >>KIT: X01USB2040
> >
> >
> > I meant about the PC. If you need to know how to install
> the drive in PC it
> > would help to know what case you have. Is there only one
> drive installed at
> > present? There should be space with brackets and cables
> ready for adding the
> > second HDD. A simple inspection should reveal the ease of
> this. You may need
> > a ribbon cable with additional connector but other than that
> you should be
> > ready to go.
> >
> >
> >
> OK, Dell Dimension 8300. I have added an internal DVD player.
> Nutin else.
Jimmy have you installed the drive in another computer yet?
Is the drive as dead as a door nail in the other computer?
Does the logic board/controller board/daughter board on the maxtor
drive show any burnt spots or signs of shorting out that you can see?
PS: If you decide to install another controller board on the drive be
sure to match the model and "firmware".
You may find a second hand drive you can use as a donor to try
exchanging the board. Or even if someone has one that does power up
but is faulty internally?
this is a very good compuiter technician and an intelligent one at
that. He understands simple logic. He is well aware of people that
can't udnerstand simple logic. He helps them the whole time.
His tech help website recevies many hits. he fixes computers full
itime. the point is he's not an idiot user or an idiot technician.
He understands simple logic. understands computers. e.t.c. He's
one of us. Not one of the them.
Infact, when he mentioned about WD40/80 , another technician joked
about the drive with the cable select feature gone wrong.
So, this weren't just the words of one good comp technician
I'm not saying all WD drive are bad. on the contrary
Captin wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to
> > my XP PC.
> > A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
> > Maxtor
> > suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
> > waiting 10
> > seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
> > Plugged it
> > back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front
> > of the HD
> > blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates
> > a 'failed'
> > drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
> > I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections
> > inside the HD
> > case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
> > readable.
> > Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
> > Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is
> > salvagable?
> > Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>
> OK, I second or third the idea of removing the drive from the case and
> install it in a PC as a slave drive. I would also check the connection
> inside the external case to the hard drive.I am sorry about your drive
> but glad you have posted because I think people are misled with data
> recovery
> Hard drives usually fail for one of two basic reasons.Firstly power is
> either not transmitted or short circuited. Putting it in the freezer
> will not help. If you really need the data , often the printed circuit
> controller boards on hard drives can be replaced, even if it is
> tempory to power the drive up and recover the data. The second and
> often bigger challenge are internal problems which may include
> something physically broken or distorted. For example when a system
> boots up but due to distortion it loses recognition of the partition,(
> sometimes the freezer will help)
> Without a lot of info I am being broad.Your drive is not booting and
> it seems to be a power problem...??????
>
Thanks for the reply. Most on this board still give me *way* too much
credit. I am still uncertain what an IDE adapter is. I may have one in
all this PC stuff I have.
I conclude I have to take a razor knife tothe Maxtor case in order to
make it an internal drive.
BTW, I had the Maxtor at the bottom of a stack - the stack consisting of
an Iomega HD on top of the Maxtor. Maxtor people said the HD was stackable.
Freezer ida didn't work.
circuit controoler board. Cost? Where do I get one?
J Lunis wrote:
> Captin wrote:
>> "" wrote:
>> > Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to
>> > my XP PC.
>> > A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
>> > Maxtor
>> > suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>> > waiting 10
>> > seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
>> > Plugged it
>> > back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front
>> > of the HD
>> > blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates
>> > a 'failed'
>> > drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
>> > I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections
>> > inside the HD
>> > case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
>> > readable.
>> > Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>> > Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is
>> > salvagable?
>> > Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>
>> OK, I second or third the idea of removing the drive from the case
>> and install it in a PC as a slave drive. I would also check the
>> connection inside the external case to the hard drive.I am sorry
>> about your drive but glad you have posted because I think people are
>> misled with data recovery
>> Hard drives usually fail for one of two basic reasons.Firstly power
>> is either not transmitted or short circuited. Putting it in the
>> freezer will not help. If you really need the data , often the
>> printed circuit controller boards on hard drives can be replaced,
>> even if it is tempory to power the drive up and recover the data.
>> The second and often bigger challenge are internal problems which
>> may include something physically broken or distorted. For example
>> when a system boots up but due to distortion it loses recognition of
>> the partition,( sometimes the freezer will help)
>> Without a lot of info I am being broad.Your drive is not booting and
>> it seems to be a power problem...??????
>>
> Thanks for the reply. Most on this board still give me *way* too much
> credit. I am still uncertain what an IDE adapter is. I may have one
> in all this PC stuff I have.
> I conclude I have to take a razor knife tothe Maxtor case in order to
> make it an internal drive.
> BTW, I had the Maxtor at the bottom of a stack - the stack consisting
> of an Iomega HD on top of the Maxtor. Maxtor people said the HD was
> stackable. Freezer ida didn't work.
> circuit controoler board. Cost? Where do I get one?
No razor. Remove the drive from the USB case. Set the jumper to slave.
Place the drive in the PC case. Connect the power cable. Connect the IDE
cable. This is the only other cable you will deal with. It will be the same
cable the main drive is connected to. If this cable does not have a
connector for the second drive you will need a cable that does. I would try
this before you do anything else. Then boot to BIOS for auto detect and boot
to Windows and you are done.
Jimmy wrote:
> J Lunis wrote:
>
>>Captin wrote:
>>
>>>"" wrote:
>>> > Have (had?) a Maxtor 80G external USB hard drive connected to
>>> > my XP PC.
>>> > A few days ago I found it was no longer recognized by the PC.
>>> > Maxtor
>>> > suggested unplugging the USB cable and power to the HD,
>>> > waiting 10
>>> > seconds and plugging the power back in. I waited hours.
>>> > Plugged it
>>> > back in but it didn't help. I did notice an LED on the front
>>> > of the HD
>>> > blinking continuously for minutes. Maxtor says this indicates
>>> > a 'failed'
>>> > drive and suggests I send it to a data recovery outfit.
>>> > I have read some USB HDs can fail because of connections
>>> > inside the HD
>>> > case and turning it into a PCI hard drive may make it
>>> > readable.
>>> > Is there a way to confirm the HD 'failed.'
>>> > Is it possible the connections are bad and the HD is
>>> > salvagable?
>>> > Is there an option to a $1000 recovery effort?
>>>
>>>OK, I second or third the idea of removing the drive from the case
>>>and install it in a PC as a slave drive. I would also check the
>>>connection inside the external case to the hard drive.I am sorry
>>>about your drive but glad you have posted because I think people are
>>>misled with data recovery
>>>Hard drives usually fail for one of two basic reasons.Firstly power
>>>is either not transmitted or short circuited. Putting it in the
>>>freezer will not help. If you really need the data , often the
>>>printed circuit controller boards on hard drives can be replaced,
>>>even if it is tempory to power the drive up and recover the data.
>>>The second and often bigger challenge are internal problems which
>>>may include something physically broken or distorted. For example
>>>when a system boots up but due to distortion it loses recognition of
>>>the partition,( sometimes the freezer will help)
>>>Without a lot of info I am being broad.Your drive is not booting and
>>>it seems to be a power problem...??????
>>>
>>
>>Thanks for the reply. Most on this board still give me *way* too much
>>credit. I am still uncertain what an IDE adapter is. I may have one
>>in all this PC stuff I have.
>>I conclude I have to take a razor knife tothe Maxtor case in order to
>>make it an internal drive.
>>BTW, I had the Maxtor at the bottom of a stack - the stack consisting
>>of an Iomega HD on top of the Maxtor. Maxtor people said the HD was
>>stackable. Freezer ida didn't work.
>>circuit controoler board. Cost? Where do I get one?
>
>
> No razor. Remove the drive from the USB case. Set the jumper to slave.
> Place the drive in the PC case. Connect the power cable. Connect the IDE
> cable. This is the only other cable you will deal with. It will be the same
> cable the main drive is connected to. If this cable does not have a
> connector for the second drive you will need a cable that does. I would try
> this before you do anything else. Then boot to BIOS for auto detect and boot
> to Windows and you are done.
>
>
> J.
>
>
OK, I get that. But I still have to break into the case and I see no
screws.
can this hard drive be saved? 
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