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Old 11-30-2006, 07:31 AM
faizankhan666@hotmail.com
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Default Can I change IC of my PC?

I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"

..Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
the processor is
useless now...so what can I do now?


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Old 11-30-2006, 07:39 AM
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faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
> I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
> 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
> my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
>
> .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
> the processor is
> useless now...so what can I do now?


Call Dell. These have bad capacitors, dell is replacing them.


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Old 11-30-2006, 10:22 AM
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paulmd@efn.org wrote:
> faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
> > I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
> > 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
> > my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
> >
> > .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
> > the processor is
> > useless now...so what can I do now?

>
> Call Dell. These have bad capacitors, dell is replacing them.


I bought it 2nd hand...so no guarantee.


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Old 11-30-2006, 11:07 AM
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paulmd@efn.org wrote:
> faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
>> I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
>> 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
>> my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
>>
>> .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
>> the processor is
>> useless now...so what can I do now?

>
> Call Dell. These have bad capacitors, dell is replacing them.
>

Actual chips have been known to burn up. The ICH5/ICH5R Southbridge
can go into latchup, and burns a spot on the top of the chip. That
chip can also fail more silently, and just lose the use of the USB
ports (which means the burning stopped once it disconnected USB
power to the USB logic block or pad area).

The failure mode shown here, will cause the machine to fail to POST.
This is the more violent form of latchup, where the USB pads
stay connected to the power long enough to fry the chip.

http://www.abxzone.com/forums/intel-...light=usb+port

While latchup can be caused by ESD (static discharge) into the
USB ports, at least some of the failure scenarios don't involve
static electricity at the time of failure. It is possible this
is a design fault with the chip, or a problem with the motherboard
design. But no company has claimed responsibility, and the warranty
returns continue.

Latchup is the formation of a parasitic PNPN junction in the silicon.
The PNPN is the same device type as the SCR or silicon controlled
rectifier. Like an SCR, if the gate voltage is high enough, the SCR
turns on. In this case, shorting the power rails through the silicon
die and heating it. The SCR will not stop, until power is removed,
and the voltage drops low enough for the SCR to switch off. Since
the user does not know this is happening, there is no opportunity
for the power to be switched off, and the device heats until something
else happens, like a burnout of the power connections.

Paul

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Old 11-30-2006, 01:28 PM
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Default Re: Can I change IC of my PC?

faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
> I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
> 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
> my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
>
> .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
> the processor is
> useless now...so what can I do now?
>


You should know that there are MANY things that could cause the problem
you describe. Unless you KNOW that there is a burned IC on the MB, I
would look at other possibilities first. Failing RAM, a failed PS, or a
processor fan failing to start are just a few possibilities.

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Old 11-30-2006, 02:14 PM
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"faizankhan666@hotmail.com" <faizankhan666@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> paulmd@efn.org wrote:
>> faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
>> > I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4
>> > with
>> > 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange
>> > light on
>> > my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's
>> > title"
>> >
>> > .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he
>> > said all
>> > the processor is
>> > useless now...so what can I do now?

>>
>> Call Dell. These have bad capacitors, dell is replacing them.

>
> I bought it 2nd hand...so no guarantee.
>



Then take it to a computer shop since obviously they more know than
you about computer hardware. Get an estimate and find out if it is
cost effective to have it repaired or to have the motherboard
replaced.


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Old 11-30-2006, 11:33 PM
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No you CANNOT change the IC in your motherboard of the computer.

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>I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
> 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
> my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
>
> .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
> the processor is
> useless now...so what can I do now?
>




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Old 12-01-2006, 05:51 AM
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Paul wrote:
> paulmd@efn.org wrote:
> > faizankhan666@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> I buyed DELL Optiplex GX270 just six months ago.It was intel P4 with
> >> 2.8GHz.When I try to ON my PC yesterday I recieved an orange light on
> >> my monitor and green on my CPU...nothing else...even not "DELL's title"
> >>
> >> .Computer man said that IC is burnt...cannot be replaced...he said all
> >> the processor is
> >> useless now...so what can I do now?

> >
> > Call Dell. These have bad capacitors, dell is replacing them.
> >

> Actual chips have been known to burn up. The ICH5/ICH5R Southbridge
> can go into latchup, and burns a spot on the top of the chip. That
> chip can also fail more silently, and just lose the use of the USB
> ports (which means the burning stopped once it disconnected USB
> power to the USB logic block or pad area).
>
> The failure mode shown here, will cause the machine to fail to POST.
> This is the more violent form of latchup, where the USB pads
> stay connected to the power long enough to fry the chip.
>
> http://www.abxzone.com/forums/intel-...light=usb+port
>
> While latchup can be caused by ESD (static discharge) into the
> USB ports, at least some of the failure scenarios don't involve
> static electricity at the time of failure. It is possible this
> is a design fault with the chip, or a problem with the motherboard
> design. But no company has claimed responsibility, and the warranty
> returns continue.
>
> Latchup is the formation of a parasitic PNPN junction in the silicon.
> The PNPN is the same device type as the SCR or silicon controlled
> rectifier. Like an SCR, if the gate voltage is high enough, the SCR
> turns on. In this case, shorting the power rails through the silicon
> die and heating it. The SCR will not stop, until power is removed,
> and the voltage drops low enough for the SCR to switch off. Since
> the user does not know this is happening, there is no opportunity
> for the power to be switched off, and the device heats until something
> else happens, like a burnout of the power connections.
>
> Paul


I'm hoping it has bad capacitors, which you can blame for causing
damage to whatever chip may have failed.


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