Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
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Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I hope someone can help me.
>
> In my P4 I've got a Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 AGP card and I want to
> replace it with a matrox millenium G550 dual monitor card.
>
> If I'm right the new matrox millennium G550 will fit perfectly in my
> agp slot port because they are both universal AGP cards.
>
> Can anyone confirm this before I buy this new card?
>
> Thx
According to this, the G550 is universal. Notice that some Matrox
models, existed as two different standards. So for some Matrox
products, you have to be much more careful.
Matrox used to have a forum, where issues like this may have
been discussed. But they closed that forum. The G550 is listed
here, as being OK. On the G400, you have to check the part number
for "4A" to be safe. This is an archive of the site - not all
links on an archived page, will work properly.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I hope someone can help me.
>
> > In my P4 I've got a Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 AGP card and I want to
> > replace it with a matrox millenium G550 dual monitor card.
>
> > If I'm right the new matrox millennium G550 will fit perfectly in my
> > agp slot port because they are both universal AGP cards.
>
> > Can anyone confirm this before I buy this new card?
>
> > Thx
>
> According to this, the G550 is universal. Notice that some Matrox
> models, existed as two different standards. So for some Matrox
> products, you have to be much more careful.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> Matrox used to have a forum, where issues like this may have
> been discussed. But they closed that forum. The G550 is listed
> here, as being OK. On the G400, you have to check the part number
> for "4A" to be safe. This is an archive of the site - not all
> links on an archived page, will work properly.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/200401140...matrox.com/mga...
>
> * * Paul
Ok thanks.
I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
performance and is the slot the only difference?
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
also differences like AGP.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox millenium G550?
"HDI" <hdinf@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
[snip]
I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
performance and is the slot the only difference?
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
also differences like AGP.
===========
The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
close performance.
Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
all.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
>
> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
> performance and is the slot the only difference?
> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
>
> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
> also differences like AGP.
>
> ===========
>
> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> close performance.
>
> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
> all.
OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.
> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> close performance.
The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
a PCIe.
I haven't got a PCIe slot.
Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
performance?
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
> On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
>> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
>> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
>> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
>>
>> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
>> performance and is the slot the only difference?
>> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
>>
>> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
>> also differences like AGP.
>>
>> ===========
>>
>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
>> close performance.
>>
>> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
>> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
>> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
>> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
>> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
>> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
>> all.
>
> OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.
>
>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
>> close performance.
>
> The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
> Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
> a PCIe.
> I haven't got a PCIe slot.
>
> Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
> performance?
>
PCI slots have lower performance than AGP. The difference is most apparent in
games (games with a lot of bus traffic). If you are updating a lot of 2D pixmaps
on the screen in real time (like a movie), the PCI bus may also feel the strain
a bit. You could also have other traffic competing for the PCI bus, like say
some PCI IDE card with disk traffic on the bus.
PCI Express x16 (newest video slot standard) = 4000MB/sec on TX and on RX
The Matrox Millenium G550 PCI low profile, when plugged into a desktop PCI
slot, will be limited to the 133MB/sec figure. By using burst transfer,
you might see a practical transfer rate of 110MB/sec or maybe a bit more.
Note that particular card has a low profile faceplate, so the tab won't
align with a regular computer case PCI screw hole. That particular card
is designed for a smaller computer case. Some low profile cards will come
with two faceplates, a regular height one and a low profile one, so you
can fit the low profile card into any desktop computer. (You install a
faceplate, according to the slot height.)
AGP cards are still available, some with dual heads. For example, this
one has a 1.5V only AGP slot pattern on the edge. You should check your
motherboard documentation, to see what AGP voltages your motherboard
supports. I suspect you have plenty of choices available to you,
since you mentioned P4.
If you post back the name of the motherboard, I can help suggest what
kind of AGP cards would work. Or you can use the Playtool page and figure
it out.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 10 apr, 23:19, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
> > On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com....
> >> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>
> >> [snip]
>
> >> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
> >> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
> >> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
> >> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
>
> >> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
> >> performance and is the slot the only difference?
> >> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
>
> >> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
> >> also differences like AGP.
>
> >> ===========
>
> >> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >> close performance.
>
> >> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
> >> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
> >> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
> >> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
> >> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
> >> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
> >> all.
>
> > OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.
>
> >> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >> close performance.
>
> > The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
> > Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
> > a PCIe.
> > I haven't got a PCIe slot.
>
> > Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
> > performance?
>
> PCI slots have lower performance than AGP. The difference is most apparentin
> games (games with a lot of bus traffic). If you are updating a lot of 2D pixmaps
> on the screen in real time (like a movie), the PCI bus may also feel the strain
> a bit. You could also have other traffic competing for the PCI bus, like say
> some PCI IDE card with disk traffic on the bus.
>
> AGP8X = 2132MB/sec. AGP4X = 1066MB/sec. AGP2X = 533MB/sec. AGP1X =266MB/sec
>
> PCI (ordinary desktop bus) = 133MB/sec
>
> PCI Express x16 (newest video slot standard) = 4000MB/sec on TX and on RX
>
> The Matrox Millenium G550 PCI low profile, when plugged into a desktop PCI
> slot, will be limited to the 133MB/sec figure. By using burst transfer,
> you might see a practical transfer rate of 110MB/sec or maybe a bit more.
>
> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cr.../g550lppci.php
>
> Note that particular card has a low profile faceplate, so the tab won't
> align with a regular computer case PCI screw hole. That particular card
> is designed for a smaller computer case. Some low profile cards will come
> with two faceplates, a regular height one and a low profile one, so you
> can fit the low profile card into any desktop computer. (You install a
> faceplate, according to the slot height.)
>
> AGP cards are still available, some with dual heads. For example, this
> one has a 1.5V only AGP slot pattern on the edge. You should check your
> motherboard documentation, to see what AGP voltages your motherboard
> supports. I suspect you have plenty of choices available to you,
> since you mentioned P4.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...161-210-05.jpg
>
> This site has some info.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> If you post back the name of the motherboard, I can help suggest what
> kind of AGP cards would work. Or you can use the Playtool page and figure
> it out.
>
> * * Paul- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
I've got a Compaq Evo D310, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz, 512 MB
Baseboard: Compaq 0804h.
I need a dual monitor just for administration, not for games.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
> On 10 apr, 23:19, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> HDI wrote:
>>> On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
>>>> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>>>> [snip]
>>>> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
>>>> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
>>>> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
>>>> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
>>>> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
>>>> performance and is the slot the only difference?
>>>> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
>>>> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
>>>> also differences like AGP.
>>>> ===========
>>>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
>>>> close performance.
>>>> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
>>>> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
>>>> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
>>>> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
>>>> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
>>>> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation of them
>>>> all.
>>> OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.
>>>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
>>>> close performance.
>>> The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
>>> Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
>>> a PCIe.
>>> I haven't got a PCIe slot.
>>> Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
>>> performance?
>> PCI slots have lower performance than AGP. The difference is most apparent in
>> games (games with a lot of bus traffic). If you are updating a lot of 2D pixmaps
>> on the screen in real time (like a movie), the PCI bus may also feel the strain
>> a bit. You could also have other traffic competing for the PCI bus, like say
>> some PCI IDE card with disk traffic on the bus.
>>
>> AGP8X = 2132MB/sec. AGP4X = 1066MB/sec. AGP2X = 533MB/sec. AGP1X = 266MB/sec
>>
>> PCI (ordinary desktop bus) = 133MB/sec
>>
>> PCI Express x16 (newest video slot standard) = 4000MB/sec on TX and on RX
>>
>> The Matrox Millenium G550 PCI low profile, when plugged into a desktop PCI
>> slot, will be limited to the 133MB/sec figure. By using burst transfer,
>> you might see a practical transfer rate of 110MB/sec or maybe a bit more.
>>
>> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cr.../g550lppci.php
>>
>> Note that particular card has a low profile faceplate, so the tab won't
>> align with a regular computer case PCI screw hole. That particular card
>> is designed for a smaller computer case. Some low profile cards will come
>> with two faceplates, a regular height one and a low profile one, so you
>> can fit the low profile card into any desktop computer. (You install a
>> faceplate, according to the slot height.)
>>
>> AGP cards are still available, some with dual heads. For example, this
>> one has a 1.5V only AGP slot pattern on the edge. You should check your
>> motherboard documentation, to see what AGP voltages your motherboard
>> supports. I suspect you have plenty of choices available to you,
>> since you mentioned P4.
>>
>> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...161-210-05.jpg
>>
>> This site has some info.
>>
>> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>>
>> If you post back the name of the motherboard, I can help suggest what
>> kind of AGP cards would work. Or you can use the Playtool page and figure
>> it out.
>>
>> Paul- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>>
>> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> I've got a Compaq Evo D310, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz, 512 MB
> Baseboard: Compaq 0804h.
>
> I need a dual monitor just for administration, not for games.
>
>
According to this page, the chipset is 845G for the D310.
According to the playtool.com web page, 845 is "AGP 1.5V Motherboard".
On page 6 here, there is a picture of the motherboard in the computer.
The brown slot, next to the three PCI slots, is the AGP slot. It will
have a key inserted in the slot, to only allow 1.5V compatible cards to
be added. Either a "universal" card, with two slots cut, would work, or
a card with the 1.5V only (a modern card), would also fit.
AGP 1.5V Motherboard Won't fit Works at 1.5V Works at 1.5V Works at 1.5V Works at 1.5V
in slot
Many cards should fit in the brown AGP slot. The card on the left in the following
picture, is a 1.5V only card, and it would match the key in the AGP slot exactly.
The card on the right is "universal" and will also fit and work fine (I use an FX5200 AGP
with a connector like that, and it even works with my old 440BX motherboard).
Only the card in the center of this picture, is inappropriate for the 845G,
and will not physically fit in the brown AGP slot.
This is an example of a card. A Geforce 6200. It has a "universal" connector
so will fit any AGP slot. It has one DVI connector and one VGA connector.
You did not mention the two monitor types you want to use, whether they
had to be digital or analog.
To illustrate a second card, this is an HD 2400 Pro with two DVI-I connectors.
You could connect two Apple 30" Cinema monitors with DVI connectors with this
card.
If you wanted to use two VGA monitors with the 2400 Pro card, you can
purchase a DVI-I to VGA adapter. The two ends of the adapter are pictured
here. The first picture, plugs to the video card side. The second picture,
is where the monitor cable goes for a VGA 15 pin monitor. Two operate two
monitors of the VGA type, you'd buy two of these adapters.
There are many other AGP cards still around for sale. But be careful
that -
1) The faceplate connector configuration, and adapters (DVI-I to VGA or
whatever else is included), are suitable to drive your two monitors.
2) That the card is modern enough, to have the correct connector on the
card - either a 1.5V only card, or a "universal" connector.
3) For very modern cards, the drivers are not available for all operating
systems. For example, the HD 3850 AGP, the most recent AGP card introduced,
and a powerful gaming card, only comes with a WinXP driver. There is no
driver for Win2K (my operating system). If you are using Win98, then
much more research will be needed, to find a card and driver that will
work.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 13 apr, 02:22, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
> > On 10 apr, 23:19, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >> HDI wrote:
> >>> On 10 apr, 15:50, "GT" <ContactGT_remove...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> "HDI" <hd...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>>news:b12b08c6-5475-4f0a-98f1-fc02eb200ff1@e67g2000hsa.googlegroups.com....
> >>>> On 9 apr, 00:33, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> >>>> [snip]
> >>>> I visited the local shop site and the only matrox G550 I found was an
> >>>> 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low Profile - 2 x
> >>>> VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf), so no AGP. There are also
> >>>> PCIe but I haven't got such a slot.
> >>>> Should I look further for an AGP or does both of them have the same
> >>>> performance and is the slot the only difference?
> >>>> Maybe I'm wrong but I thought AGP is better than PCI.
> >>>> A second question. Can I put any PCI card in a pci slot or are there
> >>>> also differences like AGP.
> >>>> ===========
> >>>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >>>> close performance.
> >>>> Not sure quite what you are asking in the second question...
> >>>> I suspect you might be confusing PCI with PCIe. PCI is the normal slot used
> >>>> for add-in cards in the PC. There are usually 3-5 PCI slots on a
> >>>> motherboard. The PCIe is the new graphics card slot - replacement of AGP. A
> >>>> PCI card will not fit in a PCIe slot. A PCIe card will not fit in a PCI
> >>>> slot. As a last resort - look on Wikipedia for a short explanation ofthem
> >>>> all.
> >>> OK thanks I'll look on Wikipedia.
> >>>> The 'same' card in AGP or PCIe will have the same, or at least very very
> >>>> close performance.
> >>> The card I found was an 'Matrox Millenium G550 - 32 MB - PCI Low
> >>> Profile - 2 x VGA' (manufacturer code: g55mddap32dbf). It's a PCI not
> >>> a PCIe.
> >>> I haven't got a PCIe slot.
> >>> Is the PCI card also the same and has it the also the same
> >>> performance?
> >> PCI slots have lower performance than AGP. The difference is most apparent in
> >> games (games with a lot of bus traffic). If you are updating a lot of 2D pixmaps
> >> on the screen in real time (like a movie), the PCI bus may also feel the strain
> >> a bit. You could also have other traffic competing for the PCI bus, like say
> >> some PCI IDE card with disk traffic on the bus.
>
> >> AGP8X = 2132MB/sec. AGP4X = 1066MB/sec. AGP2X = 533MB/sec. AGP1X = 266MB/sec
>
> >> PCI (ordinary desktop bus) = 133MB/sec
>
> >> PCI Express x16 (newest video slot standard) = 4000MB/sec on TX and on RX
>
> >> The Matrox Millenium G550 PCI low profile, when plugged into a desktop PCI
> >> slot, will be limited to the 133MB/sec figure. By using burst transfer,
> >> you might see a practical transfer rate of 110MB/sec or maybe a bit more.
>
> >>http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/cr.../g550lppci.php
>
> >> Note that particular card has a low profile faceplate, so the tab won't
> >> align with a regular computer case PCI screw hole. That particular card
> >> is designed for a smaller computer case. Some low profile cards will come
> >> with two faceplates, a regular height one and a low profile one, so you
> >> can fit the low profile card into any desktop computer. (You install a
> >> faceplate, according to the slot height.)
>
> >> AGP cards are still available, some with dual heads. For example, this
> >> one has a 1.5V only AGP slot pattern on the edge. You should check your
> >> motherboard documentation, to see what AGP voltages your motherboard
> >> supports. I suspect you have plenty of choices available to you,
> >> since you mentioned P4.
>
> >>http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...161-210-05.jpg
>
> >> This site has some info.
>
> >>http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
>
> >> If you post back the name of the motherboard, I can help suggest what
> >> kind of AGP cards would work. Or you can use the Playtool page and figure
> >> it out.
>
> >> * * Paul- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> >> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
>
> > I've got a Compaq Evo D310, Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz, 512 MB
> > Baseboard: Compaq 0804h.
>
> > I need a dual monitor just for administration, not for games.
>
> According to this page, the chipset is 845G for the D310.
>
> http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/q.../11348_na.HTML
>
> You can use CPUZ program, to verify the chipset description.
>
> http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.phphttp://...zip**(download)
>
> According to the playtool.com web page, 845 is "AGP 1.5V Motherboard".
>
> On page 6 here, there is a picture of the motherboard in the computer.
> The brown slot, next to the three PCI slots, is the AGP slot. It will
> have a key inserted in the slot, to only allow 1.5V compatible cards to
> be added. Either a "universal" card, with two slots cut, would work, or
> a card with the 1.5V only (a modern card), would also fit.
>
> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bc/docs/su.../c00658831/c00...
>
> *From the playtool table "Practical Motherboard And Card Compatibility"
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * AGP 3.3V * *AGP 1.5V * * * Universal AGP *Universal 1.5V *Universal AGP 3.0
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * Card * * * *Card * * * * * *Card * * * * AGP 3.0 Card * * *Card
>
> AGP 1.5V Motherboard * Won't fit * Works at 1.5V *Works at 1.5V *Works at 1.5V * Works at 1.5V
> * * * * * * * * * * * * in slot
>
> Many cards should fit in the brown AGP slot. The card on the left in the following
> picture, is a 1.5V only card, and it would match the key in the AGP slot exactly.
> The card on the right is "universal" and will also fit and work fine (I use an FX5200 AGP
> with a connector like that, and it even works with my old 440BX motherboard).
> Only the card in the center of this picture, is inappropriate for the 845G,
> and will not physically fit in the brown AGP slot.
>
> http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcom...ltageslots.jpg
>
> This is an example of a card. A Geforce 6200. It has a "universal" connector
> so will fit any AGP slot. It has one DVI connector and one VGA connector.
> You did not mention the two monitor types you want to use, whether they
> had to be digital or analog.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...127-317-03.jpg
>
> To illustrate a second card, this is an HD 2400 Pro with two DVI-I connectors.
> You could connect two Apple 30" Cinema monitors with DVI connectors with this
> card.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...103-046-04.jpg
>
> The 2400 Pro is a 1.5V only card, and will fit your brown AGP slot.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...103-046-05.jpg
>
> If you wanted to use two VGA monitors with the 2400 Pro card, you can
> purchase a DVI-I to VGA adapter. The two ends of the adapter are pictured
> here. The first picture, plugs to the video card side. The second picture,
> is where the monitor cable goes for a VGA 15 pin monitor. Two operate two
> monitors of the VGA type, you'd buy two of these adapters.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...267-001-06.jpg
>
> More information about DVI connectors, and their capabilities, is here.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvi
>
> There are many other AGP cards still around for sale. But be careful
> that -
>
> 1) The faceplate connector configuration, and adapters (DVI-I to VGA or
> * * whatever else is included), are suitable to drive your two monitors.
>
> 2) That the card is modern enough, to have the correct connector on the
> * * card - either a 1.5V only card, or a "universal" connector.
>
> 3) For very modern cards, the drivers are not available for all operating
> * * systems. For example, the HD 3850 AGP, the most recent AGP card introduced,
> * * and a powerful gaming card, only comes with a WinXP driver. There is no
> * * driver for Win2K (my operating system). If you are using Win98, then
> * * much more research will be needed, to find a card and driver that will
> * * work.
>
> You can see more AGP cards here.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...NE&N=201038004....
>
> HTH,
> * * * Paul- Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht niet weergeven -
>
> - Tekst uit oorspronkelijk bericht weergeven -
Thanks for the explanation.
I tried to run cpuz but on that computer I got an windows error so I
couldn't check the chipset.
I was looking at some dual monitor cards and saw that the power supply
requirements of the card require 350Watt or more and I've got only
220W of output.
Is this too low or am I looking at the wrong ones. (I need a good
quiet one for administration)
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
>
> Thanks for the explanation.
>
> I tried to run cpuz but on that computer I got an windows error so I
> couldn't check the chipset.
>
> I was looking at some dual monitor cards and saw that the power supply
> requirements of the card require 350Watt or more and I've got only
> 220W of output.
> Is this too low or am I looking at the wrong ones. (I need a good
> quiet one for administration)
>
You were running a Geforce2 MX200, and that was drawing some power.
The older cards would tend to draw as much current from +3.3V as
they were allowed (something like 6 amps). So you could count on
them using at least 20 watts.
I don't have power numbers for all the modern cards. Xbitlabs
measures some video cards, and so those numbers are available.
You could use something like an ATI 9250. This one has no fan on
it, and is passively cooled. That tells you the power would be
reasonably low.
The thing is, I don't know what type of connectors you are looking for
in a graphics card. That ATI 9250 card has one VGA connector and
one DVI-I. By using a DVI-I to VGA adapter, you would get a second
VGA connector. So the card could drive two VGA monitors.
There is an Nvidia 6200 with a couple VGA connectors on it.
This ATI HD 2400 pro has nice connectors on it (two dual link DVI-I)
but since it has a fan for cooling, it might be a few watts more than
the 9250. I cannot find a measured power number for it. It is
listed as "25W" here (and that 25W would be when in 3D mode -
most of the time, the power would be lower than that).
When Xbitlabs did a measurement, they didn't have a 7600 GS, and used
a 7600 GT and turned down the clocks on the card, to emulate a 7600 GS.
The card they used would also be PCI Express, meaning the card would be
missing the Rialto bridge chip on the back side of the card. The
power number they got was 27.4W at full (3D) power.
But it looks like this picture of a 7600 GS AGP, has a Molex power
connector on the end of the card, and that is generally a sign of
higher power usage. Strange.
I think I'd give the HD 2400 Pro a try, if I needed maximum flexibility
in terms of the connectors on the card. Of course, check to see if it has
drivers for your OS. To run two VGA 15 pin monitors with the HD 2400 Pro,
you'd need to buy two DVI-I to VGA adapter plugs.
Or, you could get the 9250, if you wanted to run a couple VGA connector
equipped monitors. Drivers should be less of a problem, unless you're
trying to run Vista or something.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 14 apr, 17:41, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the explanation.
>
> > I tried to run cpuz but on that computer I got an windows error so I
> > couldn't check the chipset.
>
> > I was looking at some dual monitor cards and saw that the power supply
> > requirements of the card require 350Watt or more and I've got only
> > 220W of output.
> > Is this too low or am I looking at the wrong ones. (I need a good
> > quiet one for administration)
>
> You were running a Geforce2 MX200, and that was drawing some power.
> The older cards would tend to draw as much current from +3.3V as
> they were allowed (something like 6 amps). So you could count on
> them using at least 20 watts.
>
> I don't have power numbers for all the modern cards. Xbitlabs
> measures some video cards, and so those numbers are available.
>
> You could use something like an ATI 9250. This one has no fan on
> it, and is passively cooled. That tells you the power would be
> reasonably low.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...241-075-05.jpg
>
> The thing is, I don't know what type of connectors you are looking for
> in a graphics card. That ATI 9250 card has one VGA connector and
> one DVI-I. By using a DVI-I to VGA adapter, you would get a second
> VGA connector. So the card could drive two VGA monitors.
>
> There is an Nvidia 6200 with a couple VGA connectors on it.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...139-028-03.jpg
>
> This ATI HD 2400 pro has nice connectors on it (two dual link DVI-I)
> but since it has a fan for cooling, it might be a few watts more than
> the 9250. I cannot find a measured power number for it. It is
> listed as "25W" here (and that 25W would be when in 3D mode -
> most of the time, the power would be lower than that).
>
> 2400PRO512ASB (HD 2400 Pro, Diamond brand, $85)http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...103-046-05.jpg
>
> (Power listed as 25 watts)http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....rd1=526&card2=
>
> Another card (that isn't being made any more), would be a 7600 GS AGP.
> But it is listed as 32 watts, on this page.
>
> http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards....=526&card2=434
>
> When Xbitlabs did a measurement, they didn't have a 7600 GS, and used
> a 7600 GT and turned down the clocks on the card, to emulate a 7600 GS.
> The card they used would also be PCI Express, meaning the card would be
> missing the Rialto bridge chip on the back side of the card. The
> power number they got was 27.4W at full (3D) power.
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...r-noise_6.html
>
> But it looks like this picture of a 7600 GS AGP, has a Molex power
> connector on the end of the card, and that is generally a sign of
> higher power usage. Strange.
>
> http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.c...1993_214060693
>
> There are some older video card power numbers listed here. Selecting
> a video card, causes the estimates to appear in the spreadsheet.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/200404110...kaman.jp/psu_c...
>
> I think I'd give the HD 2400 Pro a try, if I needed maximum flexibility
> in terms of the connectors on the card. Of course, check to see if it has
> drivers for your OS. To run two VGA 15 pin monitors with the HD 2400 Pro,
> you'd need to buy two DVI-I to VGA adapter plugs.
>
> Or, you could get the 9250, if you wanted to run a couple VGA connector
> equipped monitors. Drivers should be less of a problem, unless you're
> trying to run Vista or something.
>
> * * Paul
>I don't know what type of connectors you are looking for
>in a graphics card.
I was thinking of one vga and one dvi-i connector.
> Or, you could get the 9250, if you wanted to run a couple VGA connector
> equipped monitors. Drivers should be less of a problem, unless you're
> trying to run Vista or something.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
>
>> I don't know what type of connectors you are looking for
>> in a graphics card.
>
> I was thinking of one vga and one dvi-i connector.
>
>> Or, you could get the 9250, if you wanted to run a couple VGA connector
>> equipped monitors. Drivers should be less of a problem, unless you're
>> trying to run Vista or something.
>
> It's for Windows xp pro.
This is the driver obtained, when I looked for something for 9250. 6.11 means
the driver was released Nov.2006. The actual product support list doesn't list
the 9250 explicitly on this download page.
The 9550, on the other hand, shows up in the 8.3 driver, which would have
been released Mar. 2008. Which means the support is a little more recent
(even if new code was probably not added for such an old card). The 9550
is supposed to be DX9 in hardware. (The 9250 is listed as DX8.1 .)
You can have a look through the list here, and visually check for the VGA/DVI-I
connector combination you want, and select a card with passive cooling and
good reviews.
A note on passively cooled cards. I have a couple FX5200 cards, both passively
cooled. One is stable without a fan pointed at it, and the other needs a
fan pointed at it, to be stable. So even though they provided a heatsink,
that doesn't mean the heatsink was installed very well, or was tested
thoroughly. I use an 80mm fan mounted in an adjacent slot to the
card that isn't so stable, to help cool it.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 15 apr, 08:53, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
>
> >> I don't know what type of connectors you are looking for
> >> in a graphics card.
>
> > I was thinking of one vga and one dvi-i connector.
>
> >> Or, you could get the 9250, if you wanted to run a couple VGA connector
> >> equipped monitors. Drivers should be less of a problem, unless you're
> >> trying to run Vista or something.
>
> > It's for Windows xp pro.
>
> MSI NX6200AX-TD256H D2 GeForce 6200 256MB 64-bit GDDR2 AGP 8X Video Card -Retail *$33http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127317
>
> Click the "products supported" for a list of cards supported by the driver..
>
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_169.21_whql.html
>
> *******
>
> On the ATI side, this card is passively cooled (meaning low input power).
>
> HIS Hightech H955H256-1TOAN Radeon 9550 256MB 128-bit DDR AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $40http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161080
>
> This is the driver obtained, when I looked for something for 9250. 6.11 means
> the driver was released Nov.2006. The actual product support list doesn't list
> the 9250 explicitly on this download page.
>
> http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/x...rer300-xp.html
>
> The 9550, on the other hand, shows up in the 8.3 driver, which would have
> been released Mar. 2008. Which means the support is a little more recent
> (even if new code was probably not added for such an old card). The 9550
> is supposed to be DX9 in hardware. (The 9250 is listed as DX8.1 .)
>
> http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_ca...=xp/radeonx-xp
>
> *******
>
> The above two cards aren't too expensive.
>
> You can have a look through the list here, and visually check for the VGA/DVI-I
> connector combination you want, and select a card with passive cooling and
> good reviews.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...NE&N=201038004....
>
> These pages can help decipher the vital statistics.
>
> http://web.archive.org/web/200503050...show_cards.php
>
> A note on passively cooled cards. I have a couple FX5200 cards, both passively
> cooled. One is stable without a fan pointed at it, and the other needs a
> fan pointed at it, to be stable. So even though they provided a heatsink,
> that doesn't mean the heatsink was installed very well, or was tested
> thoroughly. I use an 80mm fan mounted in an adjacent slot to the
> card that isn't so stable, to help cool it.
>
> HTH,
> * * * Paul
I've looked here in the shops for passively cooled agp dual monitor
cards.
What do you think of these (they have to handle at least a resolution
of 1440x900):
Is the max power draw of 32 W too much for this computer?
The interface is AGP 8X and my current one is AGP 4X. If my
motherbord can handle only 4X will this work?
* XFX GeForce 6200A 256 MB (PV-T44A-WANG)
The second one is two times as expensive as the first one.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
>
> I've looked here in the shops for passively cooled agp dual monitor
> cards.
>
> What do you think of these (they have to handle at least a resolution
> of 1440x900):
>
> * Gigabyte Geforce 7600 GS 256 MB (GV-N76G256D-RH)
>
> Is the max power draw of 32 W too much for this computer?
> The interface is AGP 8X and my current one is AGP 4X. If my
> motherbord can handle only 4X will this work?
>
> * XFX GeForce 6200A 256 MB (PV-T44A-WANG)
>
>
> The second one is two times as expensive as the first one.
That one is an interesting mix of features. On the one hand, it has an external
power connector. (Usually a sign of slightly higher power consumption.)
The idea is, they wanted a source of +12V to run the power conversion,
without the limitations of the current carrying capabilities of the
pins on the AGP slot. On the other hand, the heatsink is passive (and
the heatsink is a bit larger than some of the other passively cooled
cards). I'd say this is a possible solution, as you don't plan to
use the 3D features, so it probably won't get that hot.
You can read some of the review comments here. They mention the heatsink
runs pretty hot, so you may want to place a fan near the card. You can
connect a computer case fan to one of your motherboard fan headers, to get
a source of power for the fan.
The second card (PV-T44A-WANG) is apparently carried by Dell. A non-Dell
web site lists the price as being somewhere in the $50 USD range. A couple
places list it as out of stock, but may be arriving soon. This site lists
the card for $42.
Judging by the size of the heatsink, the 6200 draws less power. Note that
the FX5200 AGP that I had a fan mounted next to, had the exact same kind
of heatsink as your 6200. So it still might need a fan, if there are
signs of instability.
If you can find the 6200 card for a reasonable price, then that might
run a bit cooler. If you don't want to deal with Internet sellers, then
get the 7600GS card. You'll need to provide a source of power to the 7600GS,
to the four pin Molex on the end of the card. If your power supply doesn't
have any spare Molex power connectors, you can use a "Y cable" to make
another connector for it. (Some video cards, like my ATI 9800Pro, included a
Y cable for power.) There is a female and two male connectors, and allows
extending power from the back of a disk drive. I've used quite a few
of these, for my computers, for one thing and another. I've also used
them to power fans.
The 7600GS won't use its maximum power, unless you are doing stuff
involving 3D. Games are something that uses 3D. Vista also does a
bit of 3D (Aero interface, compositing of windows etc). Perhaps an
application that uses OpenGL, would kick the card into 3D mode as
well.
Some video cards support user adjustment of core and memory clocks.
If you want to further reduce the power consumption of a card, then
turning down the clocks being used on the card, is one way to do it.
In terms of installing the card, this is what I'd recommend.
1) Make sure you have a driver to install on the new card. There should
be a CD in the box. You can also download a more recent driver from
the Internet before you start work.
2) Uninstall the existing driver for the MX200. Check Add/Remove control
panel, and look for the Nvidia driver.
3) Shut down and remove power from the computer. Change video cards.
4) On bootup, the new card will operate in a vanilla VGA mode.
Install the new Nvidia driver. After a reboot, you should be offered
more output resolutions, and be able to set up the display properly.
5) If the card runs too hot (either behaves unstable, or you burn yourself
on the heatsink), then either you can experiment with Rivatuner or
you can purchase a case cooling fan, and fit that next to the card,
blowing on the heatsink.
If you need a fan, this is an example. I have one of the larger Vantec
fans, and it is pretty quiet. This one is 80mm square, and 27 CFM.
It is pictured with a Molex power connector, so if you purchased
yet another Molex Y cable, both this fan and the 7600GS power connector,
could run off an existing disk drive power cable.
Finding a bracket to hold a fan, can actually be difficult. I made
my own bracket, using a piece of aluminum from the hardware store
(L shaped cross section). This is an example of a retail kit, that
could hold a fan where it is needed. This kit would allow positioning
a fan next to a video card (but takes up a slot or more).
There are also complete heatsink replacements for video cards, but
fitting cards that have an HSI bridge, is a bit more difficult. (Cooling
kits don't always fit AGP cards.) And the replacement coolers also make
your overall video card purchase a lot more expensive than it should be.
This is an example of one.
Here, someone is fitting a VF700 to their video card. The blue heatsink
covers the HSI chip. The problem with this, is the top edge of the
VF700, can bump into the side panel on the computer case. The video
card in this case, is a 6600GT AGP, a 50W card.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matroxmillenium G550?
On 15 apr, 17:16, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> HDI wrote:
>
> > I've looked here in the shops for passively cooled agp dual monitor
> > cards.
>
> > What do you think of these (they have to handle at least a resolution
> > of 1440x900):
>
> > * Gigabyte Geforce 7600 GS 256 MB (GV-N76G256D-RH)
>
> > * Is the max power draw of 32 W too much for this computer?
> > * The interface is AGP 8X and my current one is AGP 4X. If my
> > motherbord can handle only 4X will this work?
>
> > * XFX GeForce 6200A 256 MB (PV-T44A-WANG)
>
> > The second one is two times as expensive as the first one.
>
> That one is an interesting mix of features. On the one hand, it has an external
> power connector. (Usually a sign of slightly higher power consumption.)
> The idea is, they wanted a source of +12V to run the power conversion,
> without the limitations of the current carrying capabilities of the
> pins on the AGP slot. On the other hand, the heatsink is passive (and
> the heatsink is a bit larger than some of the other passively cooled
> cards). I'd say this is a possible solution, as you don't plan to
> use the 3D features, so it probably won't get that hot.
>
> GIGABYTE GeForce 7600GS GV-N76G256D-RH Video Cardhttp://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-125-039-09.jpg
>
> The 7600GS power varies between 14W and 28W or so, according to this
> estimation (they used a 7600GT and downclocked it, to make the
> measurement).
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...r-noise_6.html
>
> You can read some of the review comments here. They mention the heatsink
> runs pretty hot, so you may want to place a fan near the card. You can
> connect a computer case fan to one of your motherboard fan headers, to get
> a source of power for the fan.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125039
>
> The second card (PV-T44A-WANG) is apparently carried by Dell. A non-Dell
> web site lists the price as being somewhere in the $50 USD range. A couple
> places list it as out of stock, but may be arriving soon. This site lists
> the card for $42.
>
> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3903480
>
> Judging by the size of the heatsink, the 6200 draws less power. Note that
> the FX5200 AGP that I had a fan mounted next to, had the exact same kind
> of heatsink as your 6200. So it still might need a fan, if there are
> signs of instability.
>
> If you can find the 6200 card for a reasonable price, then that might
> run a bit cooler. If you don't want to deal with Internet sellers, then
> get the 7600GS card. You'll need to provide a source of power to the 7600GS,
> to the four pin Molex on the end of the card. If your power supply doesn't
> have any spare Molex power connectors, you can use a "Y cable" to make
> another connector for it. (Some video cards, like my ATI 9800Pro, includeda
> Y cable for power.) There is a female and two male connectors, and allows
> extending power from the back of a disk drive. I've used quite a few
> of these, for my computers, for one thing and another. I've also used
> them to power fans.
>
> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...201-006-02.jpg
>
> The 7600GS won't use its maximum power, unless you are doing stuff
> involving 3D. Games are something that uses 3D. Vista also does a
> bit of 3D (Aero interface, compositing of windows etc). Perhaps an
> application that uses OpenGL, would kick the card into 3D mode as
> well.
>
> Some video cards support user adjustment of core and memory clocks.
> If you want to further reduce the power consumption of a card, then
> turning down the clocks being used on the card, is one way to do it.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RivaTuner
>
> In terms of installing the card, this is what I'd recommend.
>
> 1) Make sure you have a driver to install on the new card. There should
> * * be a CD in the box. You can also download a more recent driver from
> * * the Internet before you start work.
> 2) Uninstall the existing driver for the MX200. Check Add/Remove control
> * * panel, and look for the Nvidia driver.
> 3) Shut down and remove power from the computer. Change video cards.
> 4) On bootup, the new card will operate in a vanilla VGA mode.
> * * Install the new Nvidia driver. After a reboot, you should be offered
> * * more output resolutions, and be able to set up the display properly.
> 5) If the card runs too hot (either behaves unstable, or you burn yourself
> * * on the heatsink), then either you can experiment with Rivatuner or
> * * you can purchase a case cooling fan, and fit that next to the card,
> * * blowing on the heatsink.
>
> If you need a fan, this is an example. I have one of the larger Vantec
> fans, and it is pretty quiet. This one is 80mm square, and 27 CFM.
> It is pictured with a Molex power connector, so if you purchased
> yet another Molex Y cable, both this fan and the 7600GS power connector,
> could run off an existing disk drive power cable.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999602
>
> Finding a bracket to hold a fan, can actually be difficult. I made
> my own bracket, using a piece of aluminum from the hardware store
> (L shaped cross section). This is an example of a retail kit, that
> could hold a fan where it is needed. This kit would allow positioning
> a fan next to a video card (but takes up a slot or more).
>
> http://www.logisyscomputer.com/views.../CF108_13.jpg* (picture)
>
> There are also complete heatsink replacements for video cards, but
> fitting cards that have an HSI bridge, is a bit more difficult. (Cooling
> kits don't always fit AGP cards.) And the replacement coolers also make
> your overall video card purchase a lot more expensive than it should be.
> This is an example of one.
>
> Here, someone is fitting a VF700 to their video card. The blue heatsink
> covers the HSI chip. The problem with this, is the top edge of the
> VF700, can bump into the side panel on the computer case. The video
> card in this case, is a 6600GT AGP, a 50W card.
>
> http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9413/660029to.jpg
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...sumption2006_7....
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Another problem: When I look at the resolutions supported 1440 x 900
isn't in the list.
Maybe I have to start all over and thinking of getting a new power
supply.
Re: Can I replace my Nvidia Geforce 2 mx 200 with a new matrox milleniumG550?
HDI wrote:
> On 15 apr, 17:16, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> HDI wrote:
>>
>>> I've looked here in the shops for passively cooled agp dual monitor
>>> cards.
>>> What do you think of these (they have to handle at least a resolution
>>> of 1440x900):
>>> * Gigabyte Geforce 7600 GS 256 MB (GV-N76G256D-RH)
>>> Is the max power draw of 32 W too much for this computer?
>>> The interface is AGP 8X and my current one is AGP 4X. If my
>>> motherbord can handle only 4X will this work?
>>> * XFX GeForce 6200A 256 MB (PV-T44A-WANG)
>>> The second one is two times as expensive as the first one.
>> That one is an interesting mix of features. On the one hand, it has an external
>> power connector. (Usually a sign of slightly higher power consumption.)
>> The idea is, they wanted a source of +12V to run the power conversion,
>> without the limitations of the current carrying capabilities of the
>> pins on the AGP slot. On the other hand, the heatsink is passive (and
>> the heatsink is a bit larger than some of the other passively cooled
>> cards). I'd say this is a possible solution, as you don't plan to
>> use the 3D features, so it probably won't get that hot.
>>
>> GIGABYTE GeForce 7600GS GV-N76G256D-RH Video Cardhttp://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-125-039-09.jpg
>>
>> The 7600GS power varies between 14W and 28W or so, according to this
>> estimation (they used a 7600GT and downclocked it, to make the
>> measurement).
>>
>> http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/vid...r-noise_6.html
>>
>> You can read some of the review comments here. They mention the heatsink
>> runs pretty hot, so you may want to place a fan near the card. You can
>> connect a computer case fan to one of your motherboard fan headers, to get
>> a source of power for the fan.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814125039
>>
>> The second card (PV-T44A-WANG) is apparently carried by Dell. A non-Dell
>> web site lists the price as being somewhere in the $50 USD range. A couple
>> places list it as out of stock, but may be arriving soon. This site lists
>> the card for $42.
>>
>> http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=3903480
>>
>> Judging by the size of the heatsink, the 6200 draws less power. Note that
>> the FX5200 AGP that I had a fan mounted next to, had the exact same kind
>> of heatsink as your 6200. So it still might need a fan, if there are
>> signs of instability.
>>
>> If you can find the 6200 card for a reasonable price, then that might
>> run a bit cooler. If you don't want to deal with Internet sellers, then
>> get the 7600GS card. You'll need to provide a source of power to the 7600GS,
>> to the four pin Molex on the end of the card. If your power supply doesn't
>> have any spare Molex power connectors, you can use a "Y cable" to make
>> another connector for it. (Some video cards, like my ATI 9800Pro, included a
>> Y cable for power.) There is a female and two male connectors, and allows
>> extending power from the back of a disk drive. I've used quite a few
>> of these, for my computers, for one thing and another. I've also used
>> them to power fans.
>>
>> http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggIma...201-006-02.jpg
>>
>> The 7600GS won't use its maximum power, unless you are doing stuff
>> involving 3D. Games are something that uses 3D. Vista also does a
>> bit of 3D (Aero interface, compositing of windows etc). Perhaps an
>> application that uses OpenGL, would kick the card into 3D mode as
>> well.
>>
>> Some video cards support user adjustment of core and memory clocks.
>> If you want to further reduce the power consumption of a card, then
>> turning down the clocks being used on the card, is one way to do it.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RivaTuner
>>
>> In terms of installing the card, this is what I'd recommend.
>>
>> 1) Make sure you have a driver to install on the new card. There should
>> be a CD in the box. You can also download a more recent driver from
>> the Internet before you start work.
>> 2) Uninstall the existing driver for the MX200. Check Add/Remove control
>> panel, and look for the Nvidia driver.
>> 3) Shut down and remove power from the computer. Change video cards.
>> 4) On bootup, the new card will operate in a vanilla VGA mode.
>> Install the new Nvidia driver. After a reboot, you should be offered
>> more output resolutions, and be able to set up the display properly.
>> 5) If the card runs too hot (either behaves unstable, or you burn yourself
>> on the heatsink), then either you can experiment with Rivatuner or
>> you can purchase a case cooling fan, and fit that next to the card,
>> blowing on the heatsink.
>>
>> If you need a fan, this is an example. I have one of the larger Vantec
>> fans, and it is pretty quiet. This one is 80mm square, and 27 CFM.
>> It is pictured with a Molex power connector, so if you purchased
>> yet another Molex Y cable, both this fan and the 7600GS power connector,
>> could run off an existing disk drive power cable.
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811999602
>>
>> Finding a bracket to hold a fan, can actually be difficult. I made
>> my own bracket, using a piece of aluminum from the hardware store
>> (L shaped cross section). This is an exampl
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