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Old 11-21-2006, 07:19 AM
ross......@_______.com
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Default Do CDrom Drives get stuck?

I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office, (minus
the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed it
and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to toss
that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and now
it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting? I know this
drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least 2 years.
I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially after I was
pretty rough with opening the case.

On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there is a disk
in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time. But the 32X
drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need to change some setting
in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.

Thank U

Ross

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Old 11-21-2006, 08:28 AM
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ross......@_______.com wrote:
> I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office, (minus
> the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
> made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed it
> and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
> messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
> piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to toss
> that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
> After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
> worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and now
> it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting?


Not from sitting, but they can get jammed. Optical Drives tend to live
about 8 years (some are better than others). But some of the old 4X
slowpokes seem rock solid.


I know this
> drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least 2 years.
> I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially after I was
> pretty rough with opening the case.
>
> On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there is a disk
> in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time. But the 32X
> drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need to change some setting
> in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.


Not in Windows. Maybe a bios or firmware bug. Double check that you got
everything connected and jumpered correctly.

>
> Thank U
>
> Ross



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Old 11-21-2006, 08:59 AM
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ross......@_______.com wrote:

> I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office, (minus
> the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
> made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed it
> and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
> messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
> piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to toss
> that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
> After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
> worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and now
> it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting?


Nope, not usually.

> I know this drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least 2 years.


I've got some older cdrom drives that havent been
used for much longer than that that still work fine.

> I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially
> after I was pretty rough with opening the case.


> On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there
> is a disk in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time.
> But the 32X drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need
> to change some setting in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.


Thats what happens with SE and most of the other similar versions too.



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Old 11-21-2006, 01:42 PM
ross......@_______.com
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Default Re: Do CDrom Drives get stuck?

Thanks for all replies. I guess this drive just was stuck, or maybe
one of those small ribbon cables were not plugged in tight. I pushed
all of them tight when I put the board back. It works fine now....

So there is nothing I can do with the constant spinning in Win98, huh?
It's not that big a deal, I can just remove the disk.

One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them
in. Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto
start could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to
install adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
do I stop the automatic starting.

Thanks

Ross

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 19:59:26 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>ross......@_______.com wrote:
>
>> I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office, (minus
>> the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
>> made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed it
>> and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
>> messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
>> piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to toss
>> that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
>> After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
>> worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and now
>> it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting?

>
>Nope, not usually.
>
>> I know this drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least 2 years.

>
>I've got some older cdrom drives that havent been
>used for much longer than that that still work fine.
>
>> I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially
>> after I was pretty rough with opening the case.

>
>> On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there
>> is a disk in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time.
>> But the 32X drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need
>> to change some setting in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.

>
>Thats what happens with SE and most of the other similar versions too.
>



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Old 11-21-2006, 03:49 PM
Mike Walsh
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There is a setting in device properties in device manager to disable auto insert notification. You can also do it with TweakUI, under paranoia with a lot of other useful settings, if you have it installed.

ross......@_______.com wrote:
>
> One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
> Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
> when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them
> in. Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto
> start could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to
> install adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
> do I stop the automatic starting.


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Old 11-21-2006, 07:10 PM
Rod Speed
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ross......@_______.com wrote:

> Thanks for all replies. I guess this drive just was stuck,


Yeah, it can happen, tho its not that common.

> or maybe one of those small ribbon cables were not plugged in tight.


Thats possible too, but not very likely.

> I pushed all of them tight when I put the board back. It works fine now....


> So there is nothing I can do with the constant spinning in Win98, huh?


It should stop eventually but any activity in explorer etc starts it again.

> It's not that big a deal, I can just remove the disk.


Yeah, thats what I do, when its irritating, I just remove the CD.

Its more noticeable with those older noisy drives. Modern drives
are so cheap you can fix it that way too, just get a new one.

> One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
> Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
> when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them in.
> Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto start
> could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to install
> adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
> do I stop the automatic starting.


Its a setting in the device propertys. Pretty obvious, labelled autorun.


> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
>> ross......@_______.com wrote:
>>
>>> I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office,
>>> (minus
>>> the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
>>> made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed
>>> it
>>> and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
>>> messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
>>> piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to
>>> toss
>>> that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
>>> After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
>>> worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and
>>> now
>>> it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting?

>>
>> Nope, not usually.
>>
>>> I know this drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least
>>> 2 years.

>>
>> I've got some older cdrom drives that havent been
>> used for much longer than that that still work fine.
>>
>>> I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially
>>> after I was pretty rough with opening the case.

>>
>>> On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there
>>> is a disk in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time.
>>> But the 32X drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need
>>> to change some setting in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.

>>
>> Thats what happens with SE and most of the other similar versions
>> too.




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Old 11-21-2006, 08:20 PM
HarryHydro
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Default Re: Do CDrom Drives get stuck?

Howdy!
Could it be when you took it apart, some dust may have been blown
off the lens? I have a CD that has an eye-lash type brush on it that
wipes the lens. It works great!
I know that butter-grease they use can get dry and hard. Maybe moving
the head loosened it up. Is there a worm-gear or belt to drive the
head?
You may find the 'faster' drives take a long time to get data
'started'. I used a slower drive because it would read while it's
spooling up. and some fast drive take a LONG time just to get the door
to open!
Take Care!
Harry

ross......@_______.com wrote:
> I was given several older Pentium II computers from an office, (minus
> the keyboards, mice and monitors). I took the best of each one and
> made one computer. The fastest Cdrom drive was a 52X. I installed it
> and all I got was lots of noise from the drive and drive error
> messages on my screen. THe drive sounded like a car ready to blow a
> piston rod. So, I installed a 32X drive instead. I was going to toss
> that 52X in the garbage but decided to open it and see whats inside.
> After I opened it I noticed the "head" did not move easily, so I
> worked it back and forth a few times. I put it back together and now
> it works fine. Do these things jam up from sitting? I know this
> drive (or the whole computer) was not used for at least 2 years.
> I must admit I was shocked when it worked, especially after I was
> pretty rough with opening the case.
>
> On thing though. When it's not being used, as long as there is a disk
> in the drive, I can hear it spinning almost all the time. But the 32X
> drive did the same thing. I am assuming I need to change some setting
> in windows. But what? I use Win98SE.
>
> Thank U
>
> Ross



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Old 11-22-2006, 01:29 AM
ross......@_______.com
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Thanks for the help.

I just went to CONTROL PANEL / SYSTEM / DEVICE MANAGER / PROPERTIES.
What I find are 5 settings total.
1. Disconnect
2. Sync Data Transfer
3. Auto Insert Notification
4. DMA
5. ( a place to set the drive letter)

ALL #s 1 thru 4 are DISABLED (not checked).
Honestly, I am not sure what any of them mean, and whether they should
be ON or OFF (checked or not).

#5 I do understand this one and it's set to the drive letter I chose.

I can not find any place that says autorun?????
Am i doing something wrong?

Ross

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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:49:39 -0500, Mike Walsh <spamscks@netrox.net>
wrote:

>
>There is a setting in device properties in device manager to disable auto insert notification. You can also do it with TweakUI, under paranoia with a lot of other useful settings, if you have it installed.
>
>ross......@_______.com wrote:
>>
>> One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
>> Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
>> when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them
>> in. Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto
>> start could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to
>> install adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
>> do I stop the automatic starting.



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Old 11-22-2006, 01:59 AM
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ross......@_______.com wrote:
> Thanks for the help.
>
> I just went to CONTROL PANEL / SYSTEM / DEVICE MANAGER / PROPERTIES.
> What I find are 5 settings total.
> 1. Disconnect
> 2. Sync Data Transfer
> 3. Auto Insert Notification
> 4. DMA
> 5. ( a place to set the drive letter)
>
> ALL #s 1 thru 4 are DISABLED (not checked).
> Honestly, I am not sure what any of them mean, and whether they should
> be ON or OFF (checked or not).
>
> #5 I do understand this one and it's set to the drive letter I chose.
>
> I can not find any place that says autorun?????
> Am i doing something wrong?
>
> Ross
>
> ------------------------
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:49:39 -0500, Mike Walsh <spamscks@netrox.net>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a setting in device properties in device manager to disable auto insert notification. You can also do it with TweakUI, under paranoia with a lot of other useful settings, if you have it installed.
>>
>> ross......@_______.com wrote:
>>> One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
>>> Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
>>> when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them
>>> in. Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto
>>> start could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to
>>> install adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
>>> do I stop the automatic starting.

>


#3 is the answer, see here ..

http://www.acoustica.com/mp3-cd-burner/support/ain.htm

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Old 11-22-2006, 03:09 PM
Mike Walsh
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ross......@_______.com wrote:
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> I just went to CONTROL PANEL / SYSTEM / DEVICE MANAGER / PROPERTIES.
> What I find are 5 settings total.
> 1. Disconnect


Auto Disconnect - used with SCSI
This is normally check but I don't think it has any effect with most IDE devices

> 2. Sync Data Transfer


Used with SCSI
Same as 1.

> 3. Auto Insert Notification


This should be disabled to keep programs from running automatically. With some OSs this by itself will not prevent autorun. Use TweakUI instead.

> 4. DMA


Direct Memory Access
This should be enabled for all IDE devices. If it is not enabled you will be running in PIO mode and have slow I/O

> 5. ( a place to set the drive letter)
>
> ALL #s 1 thru 4 are DISABLED (not checked).
> Honestly, I am not sure what any of them mean, and whether they should
> be ON or OFF (checked or not).
>
> #5 I do understand this one and it's set to the drive letter I chose.
>
> I can not find any place that says autorun?????
> Am i doing something wrong?
>
> Ross
>
> ------------------------
>
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:49:39 -0500, Mike Walsh <spamscks@netrox.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >There is a setting in device properties in device manager to disable auto insert notification. You can also do it with TweakUI, under paranoia with a lot of other useful settings, if you have it installed.
> >
> >ross......@_______.com wrote:
> >>
> >> One other thing. It's been years since I messed with a cd drive.
> >> Somewhere in windows there is a setting that makes the disk NOT start
> >> when I insert it. I dislike that when they start as soon as I put them
> >> in. Sometimes I just want to see whats on the disk, and this auto
> >> start could insall something I dont want. For example, one started to
> >> install adobe acrobat. I wont even use that thing, I have Foxit. How
> >> do I stop the automatic starting.


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West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A.

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