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Old 03-09-2007, 06:14 AM
Noozer
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Default Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...

I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.

I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log out
of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm still
using my system?

I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
partitions to create an image from.

Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?




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Old 03-09-2007, 07:19 AM
Lez Pawl
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"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>
> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log out
> of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm still
> using my system?
>
> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
> partitions to create an image from.
>
> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?
>
>
>


NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.

don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.



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Old 03-09-2007, 08:25 AM
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"Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>
>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log
>> out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm
>> still using my system?
>>
>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>> partitions to create an image from.
>>
>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?


> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>
> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.


Cool. Thanks!

I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if 9
works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.



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Old 03-09-2007, 08:30 AM
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Default Re: Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...


"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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>
> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:pe6dncDrc6wWhWzYnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>
>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log
>>> out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm
>>> still using my system?
>>>
>>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>>> partitions to create an image from.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?

>
>> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>>
>> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.

>
> Cool. Thanks!
>
> I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if 9
> works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.
>


9 is OK for most

10 is only really required if you have Vista, its not worth the move up
otherwise.

I have had 7 though 10 and to be honest I am sure 7 still does what's
required.

I have done 1 recovery and 1 disc clone (moving from IDE to SATA) both
worked well. Otherwise its just a regular backup say once a week.



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Old 03-09-2007, 08:53 AM
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Default Re: Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...


"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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>
> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:pe6dncDrc6wWhWzYnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>
>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log
>>> out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm
>>> still using my system?
>>>
>>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>>> partitions to create an image from.
>>>
>>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?

>
>> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>>
>> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.

>
> Cool. Thanks!
>
> I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if 9
> works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.

Make sure to `test` your BU.
And make sure you`ve created the recovery media CD.
Otherwise, when your system falls over, you have no
way to recover.

bw..



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Old 03-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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"meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:lK9Ih.18240$Ym.83@pd7urf1no...
>>
>> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:pe6dncDrc6wWhWzYnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>>> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>>
>>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log
>>>> out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm
>>>> still using my system?
>>>>
>>>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>>>> partitions to create an image from.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?

>>
>>> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>>>
>>> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.

>>
>> Cool. Thanks!
>>
>> I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if 9
>> works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.

> Make sure to `test` your BU.
> And make sure you`ve created the recovery media CD.
> Otherwise, when your system falls over, you have no
> way to recover.
>
> bw..
>
>


not quite true.............you can create a recovery cd on another comp.




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Old 03-09-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...


"Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
> "meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
> news:58aIh.32873$tz6.7372@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:lK9Ih.18240$Ym.83@pd7urf1no...
>>>
>>> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:pe6dncDrc6wWhWzYnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>>>> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log
>>>>> out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while
>>>>> I'm still using my system?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>>>>> partitions to create an image from.
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?
>>>
>>>> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>>>>
>>>> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.
>>>
>>> Cool. Thanks!
>>>
>>> I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if
>>> 9 works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.

>> Make sure to `test` your BU.
>> And make sure you`ve created the recovery media CD.
>> Otherwise, when your system falls over, you have no
>> way to recover.
>>
>> bw..
>>
>>

>
> not quite true.............you can create a recovery cd on another comp.
>

Only by installing Acronis TI on that machine first <g>.
And as he has it installed on his machine now, he should
create the recovery CD now. %> ).



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Old 03-09-2007, 02:30 PM
Lez Pawl
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Default Re: Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...


"meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:vPidnQI7Uqrb1WzYnZ2dnUVZ8saonZ2d@bt.com...
>>
>> "meerkat" <xxxx@xxxx.com> wrote in message
>> news:58aIh.32873$tz6.7372@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>>> news:lK9Ih.18240$Ym.83@pd7urf1no...
>>>>
>>>> "Lez Pawl" <Lez@Pawlbtinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:pe6dncDrc6wWhWzYnZ2dnUVZ8v-dnZ2d@bt.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>>>>> news:iP7Ih.12340$4D.3005@pd7urf2no...
>>>>>>I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me
>>>>>> log out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image
>>>>>> while I'm still using my system?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>>>>>> partitions to create an image from.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?
>>>>
>>>>> NO that's how it operates..............swhy its 10x better than Ghost.
>>>>>
>>>>> don't forget V10 is the only version that works on Vista.
>>>>
>>>> Cool. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying out what I happen to have handy. I really hate trials, so if
>>>> 9 works out well, I'll shell out the cash for 10.
>>> Make sure to `test` your BU.
>>> And make sure you`ve created the recovery media CD.
>>> Otherwise, when your system falls over, you have no
>>> way to recover.
>>>
>>> bw..
>>>
>>>

>>
>> not quite true.............you can create a recovery cd on another comp.
>>

> Only by installing Acronis TI on that machine first <g>.
> And as he has it installed on his machine now, he should
> create the recovery CD now. %> ).
>
>


ATI can be installed on any machine with the auth code............



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Old 03-09-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Drive imaging - Acronis True Image Workstation...

Noozer <dont.spam@me.here> wrote:

> I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.


> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log out of Windows. HOW does
> this program create a reliable image while I'm still using my system?


Thats due to a new feature of XP that allows a shadow backup of files in use.

> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what partitions to create an
> image from.


The latest versions of Ghost can also do imaging of the system partition
in use without booting a floppy or CD, but do it very unsafely.

> Has anyone here used this software?


Yep, hordes have.

> Am I missing something here?


Yep, shadow backup.



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Old 03-09-2007, 06:46 PM
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Noozer wrote:
> I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>
> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me log out
> of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image while I'm still
> using my system?


I've had good luck backing up a live system. There are errors, but
they're in the log files. But I periodically back up a "dead" system
just in case.

I'd NOT be USING your system while it's
backing up. Close open files and go have coffee while it's happening.
The more things change, the more risk the system will get
out of sync with itself during the backup.

DriveImageXML claims to be able to shadow the file system and insure
a perfect backup of an active system. I'd like to hear more about how
that works.

mike


>
> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
> partitions to create an image from.
>
> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?
>
>
>



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Old 03-10-2007, 05:33 AM
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mike <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote:
> Noozer wrote:
>> I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>
>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me
>> log out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image
>> while I'm still using my system?

>
> I've had good luck backing up a live system. There are errors, but
> they're in the log files. But I periodically back up a "dead" system
> just in case.
>
> I'd NOT be USING your system while it's
> backing up. Close open files and go have coffee while it's happening.
> The more things change, the more risk the system will get
> out of sync with itself during the backup.
>
> DriveImageXML claims to be able to shadow the file system and insure
> a perfect backup of an active system. I'd like to hear more about how
> that works.


Its a new feature that showed up with XP, its an OS level function.

It basically allows a backup program to access files which
are otherwise locked by something else, usually the OS itself.

Whether that results in a 'perfect' backup essentially depends
on what is happening with the file. Obviously if its being written
to, it can only ever be a 'perfect' backup at one point in time.

>> I'm used to Ghost, where I'd boot from a floppy disk and tell it what
>> partitions to create an image from.
>>
>> Has anyone here used this software? Am I missing something here?




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Old 03-10-2007, 10:20 AM
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:33:11 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

>mike <spamme9@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Noozer wrote:
>>> I just installed Acronis True Image Workstation v9.1 onto my PC.
>>>
>>> I just starting a backup of my C: partition and it did not have me
>>> log out of Windows. HOW does this program create a reliable image
>>> while I'm still using my system?

>>
>> I've had good luck backing up a live system. There are errors, but
>> they're in the log files. But I periodically back up a "dead" system
>> just in case.
>>
>> I'd NOT be USING your system while it's
>> backing up. Close open files and go have coffee while it's happening.
>> The more things change, the more risk the system will get
>> out of sync with itself during the backup.
>>
>> DriveImageXML claims to be able to shadow the file system and insure
>> a perfect backup of an active system. I'd like to hear more about how
>> that works.

>
>Its a new feature that showed up with XP, its an OS level function.
>
>It basically allows a backup program to access files which
>are otherwise locked by something else, usually the OS itself.
>



It may be possible on Win2k as well, MS has a shadowcopy
client available for download.

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