Fancy a laugh?

#1 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 09:30 PM

I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)

#2 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 09:34 PM

"Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>

Objectively or subjectively?

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Derek

#3 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 09:47 PM

"Derek Baker" <me@xyzderekbaker.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:Bn8Ke.4266$JB4.195@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> >I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> > AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
> >
>
>
> Objectively or subjectively?

Eh?
No comprendais.

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> Derek
>
>

#4 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 10:06 PM

"Derek Baker" <me@xyzderekbaker.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:Bn8Ke.4266$JB4.195@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> >I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> > AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
> >
>
>
> Objectively or subjectively?

Either or both, take your pick.

>
> --
> Derek
>
>

#5 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 10:31 PM

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 21:06:02 GMT, "Donald McTrevor"
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

>
>"Derek Baker" <me@xyzderekbaker.eclipse.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:LqmdnWcA1PTLjmTfRVnyrA@eclipse.net.uk...
>>
>> "Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:Bn8Ke.4266$JB4.195@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>> >I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
>> > AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>> >
>>
>>
>> Objectively or subjectively?
>
>Either or both, take your pick.

Use CPU-Z to determine the actual operating parameters.
http://www.cpuid.org/cpuz.php

#6 (**permalink**) 08-09-2005, 11:21 PM

Donald McTrevor wrote:
> I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>
>
>
>
first off...
can't you just clock the cyrix to 300 mhz?

also...how fast is the K6-2 clocked?

add'ly...check the heatsink and cpu fan...
although the AMD is normally a pretty warm running cpu...
if it gets too hot...your system will really slow down...
even though the cpu may not fail

#7 (**permalink**) 08-10-2005, 12:07 AM

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Donald McTrevor wrote:
> > I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> > AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> first off...
> can't you just clock the cyrix to 300 mhz?

Maybe but I read that they don't overclock well and that
thereis a chance you will burn the chip out.
I am not will to rick that unles I have a backup chip.
>
> also...how fast is the K6-2 clocked?

I thouoght it was clocked at 300, but it is possible
due to misreading the jumpers it was set at 112Mhz,
however when it booted it did say 300Mhz IIRC.

>
> add'ly...check the heatsink and cpu fan...
> although the AMD is normally a pretty warm running cpu...
> if it gets too hot...your system will really slow down...
> even though the cpu may not fail

#8 (**permalink**) 08-10-2005, 12:18 AM

"Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:lu6dnZ2dnZ2ochr9nZ2dnfyxZN-dnZ2dRVn-yZ2dnZ0@athenet.net...
>> Donald McTrevor wrote:
>> > I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
>> > AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> first off...
>> can't you just clock the cyrix to 300 mhz?
>
> Maybe but I read that they don't overclock well and that
> thereis a chance you will burn the chip out.
> I am not will to rick that unles I have a backup chip.
>>
>> also...how fast is the K6-2 clocked?
>
> I thouoght it was clocked at 300, but it is possible
> due to misreading the jumpers it was set at 112Mhz,
> however when it booted it did say 300Mhz IIRC.

the K6-2 chip ran at the speed it says ie 300mhz whereas the Cyrix
300 was a PR (performance rating) speed so it ran like an Pentium 300
even though its actual clock speed was slower. that only means integer
performance
- as Ive said before its floating point performance was crap. use Sisoft
Sandra to
analyse your system and run benchmarks on CPU performance.

#9 (**permalink**) 08-10-2005, 02:39 AM

Donald McTrevor wrote:
> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:lu6dnZ2dnZ2ochr9nZ2dnfyxZN-dnZ2dRVn-yZ2dnZ0@athenet.net...
>
>>Donald McTrevor wrote:
>>
>>>I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
>>>AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>first off...
>>can't you just clock the cyrix to 300 mhz?
>
>
> Maybe but I read that they don't overclock well and that
> thereis a chance you will burn the chip out.
> I am not will to rick that unles I have a backup chip.
>
>>also...how fast is the K6-2 clocked?
>
>
> I thouoght it was clocked at 300, but it is possible
> due to misreading the jumpers it was set at 112Mhz,
> however when it booted it did say 300Mhz IIRC.
>

<snip>
well i guess i'd just go back to the cyrix then...
whatever works best...
and you are right about the overclocking...
it's prob. not a good idea

#10 (**permalink**) 08-10-2005, 07:02 AM

"Donald McTrevor" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
> AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)

There is no such thing as "twice as slow." Half as fast? Yes.
But not "twice as slow."

--
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

#11 (**permalink**) 08-10-2005, 10:38 AM

On Tue, 09 Aug 2005 17:21:37 -0500, philo
<philo@privacy.net> wrote:

>Donald McTrevor wrote:
>> I 'upgraded' my Cyrix MII 300 (225Mhz) to a
>> AMD K6-2 and my system is now twice as slow (at least!!)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>first off...
>can't you just clock the cyrix to 300 mhz?

Doubtful, Cyix chips were very poor overclockers.

>
>also...how fast is the K6-2 clocked?
>
>add'ly...check the heatsink and cpu fan...
>although the AMD is normally a pretty warm running cpu...

Actually over the past few years, Intel's have been hotter
at anything but idle. Athlon Palomino was hotter, but
beyond that Palomino era Intels were always hotter from the
moment they released the P4.

>if it gets too hot...your system will really slow down...
>even though the cpu may not fail

It is very easy to keep a K6-2 300MHz cool enough. In fact,
I used to have one at 250MHz with a passive heatsink (was
undervolted a bit but regardless, it was fairly cool
running.

It's probalby putting out roughly 20W at 300MHz, and only
that because the board is so old it doesn't support
ACPI/HLT-idling.