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Old 05-20-2007, 08:33 AM
Joel
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Default help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm


Either my mobo or cpu is dead, but the comp won't post and I've tested
everything else. Anyway, I want to buy another mobo to replace this one in
my comp that I am using only as a file server. I can't find this old asus
anywhere, but I see a few other brands on Ebay and Amazon that I might could
buy. I want one that already has the cpu on it (or comes with it).

I see links in this NG all the time to other online places that have
comps/mobos, so could help me find one that will put my fileserver back like
it was before? The 478 socket boards on Amazon and Ebay were less than $200.

Thanks!!



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Old 05-20-2007, 10:54 AM
Jan Alter
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"Joel" <joel@wrong.aol.com> wrote in message
news:BET3i.973$px2.599@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>
>
> Either my mobo or cpu is dead, but the comp won't post and I've tested
> everything else. Anyway, I want to buy another mobo to replace this one in
> my comp that I am using only as a file server. I can't find this old asus
> anywhere, but I see a few other brands on Ebay and Amazon that I might
> could buy. I want one that already has the cpu on it (or comes with it).
>
> I see links in this NG all the time to other online places that have
> comps/mobos, so could help me find one that will put my fileserver back
> like it was before? The 478 socket boards on Amazon and Ebay were less
> than $200.
>
> Thanks!!
>


Despite the enjoyment of buying via ebay that apparently so many folks seem
to get I find it a crap shoot and would rather send my money to a known
reputable supplier when possible. Newegg actually lists nine 478 boards that
they have in stock. The Asus one below is $60. Additionally they list seven
cpu's that can be purchased as well, within the price range of $200
together. If you go this route don't forget the HSF necessary if just buying
an OEM cpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131573

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Old 05-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Joel
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

Thanks alot. I've never had an micro atx board before though. I just ordered
it, so I hope it will still fit in my old atx case (holes line up?). Anyone
know? If not, I need to go ahead and buy the case now too, but there is a
store here locally that I can buy that from.


"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Joel" <joel@wrong.aol.com> wrote in message
> news:BET3i.973$px2.599@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>>
>>
>> Either my mobo or cpu is dead, but the comp won't post and I've tested
>> everything else. Anyway, I want to buy another mobo to replace this one
>> in my comp that I am using only as a file server. I can't find this old
>> asus anywhere, but I see a few other brands on Ebay and Amazon that I
>> might could buy. I want one that already has the cpu on it (or comes with
>> it).
>>
>> I see links in this NG all the time to other online places that have
>> comps/mobos, so could help me find one that will put my fileserver back
>> like it was before? The 478 socket boards on Amazon and Ebay were less
>> than $200.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>

>
> Despite the enjoyment of buying via ebay that apparently so many folks
> seem to get I find it a crap shoot and would rather send my money to a
> known reputable supplier when possible. Newegg actually lists nine 478
> boards that they have in stock. The Asus one below is $60. Additionally
> they list seven cpu's that can be purchased as well, within the price
> range of $200 together. If you go this route don't forget the HSF
> necessary if just buying an OEM cpu.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131573
>
> --
> Jan Alter
> bearpuf@verizon.net
> or
> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>




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Old 05-20-2007, 09:23 PM
Joel
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

What is this "hsf" you are talking about?

I ordered that board. Hopefully my old cpu will work in it though. I don't
know if it's the cpu or the mobo that is bad :( If the cpu don't work, then
I will order the cpu or go buy a new comp. For a file server, I can get
almot the equivalent to what I have now for $400 at walmart/sam's, so I
don't know if I can sink any more money into this old comp. I had no idea
cpu for this old board was going to be over $100.

"Jan Alter" <bearpuf@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ONV3i.4799$qp5.3762@trnddc03...
>
> "Joel" <joel@wrong.aol.com> wrote in message
> news:BET3i.973$px2.599@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
>> http://www.baber.com/baber/411/asus_p4s533-mx.htm
>>
>>
>> Either my mobo or cpu is dead, but the comp won't post and I've tested
>> everything else. Anyway, I want to buy another mobo to replace this one
>> in my comp that I am using only as a file server. I can't find this old
>> asus anywhere, but I see a few other brands on Ebay and Amazon that I
>> might could buy. I want one that already has the cpu on it (or comes with
>> it).
>>
>> I see links in this NG all the time to other online places that have
>> comps/mobos, so could help me find one that will put my fileserver back
>> like it was before? The 478 socket boards on Amazon and Ebay were less
>> than $200.
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>

>
> Despite the enjoyment of buying via ebay that apparently so many folks
> seem to get I find it a crap shoot and would rather send my money to a
> known reputable supplier when possible. Newegg actually lists nine 478
> boards that they have in stock. The Asus one below is $60. Additionally
> they list seven cpu's that can be purchased as well, within the price
> range of $200 together. If you go this route don't forget the HSF
> necessary if just buying an OEM cpu.
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131573
>
> --
> Jan Alter
> bearpuf@verizon.net
> or
> jalter@phila.k12.pa.us
>




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Old 05-20-2007, 09:37 PM
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

Joel wrote:
> What is this "hsf" you are talking about?


HeatSink/Fan. The heatsink with a fan attached to cool the CPU.

[snip]



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Old 05-20-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

Well that sucks. I figured the mobo would come with that. My last asus
did....let me guess....my heat sink/fan on my old ATX mobo won't work on
this micro atx board?


"RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> Joel wrote:
>> What is this "hsf" you are talking about?

>
> HeatSink/Fan. The heatsink with a fan attached to cool the CPU.
>
> [snip]
>
>




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Old 05-20-2007, 10:28 PM
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

Joel wrote:
> Well that sucks. I figured the mobo would come with that. My last asus
> did....let me guess....my heat sink/fan on my old ATX mobo won't
> work on this micro atx board?


A HSF comes with a retail purchase of a CPU. Most folks buy the CPU OEM
(Original Equipment Manufacturer) without a HSF and purchase a better
one seperately, espcially since the provided HSF does not cool well when
overclocking a CPU.

A microATX MB is simply shorter than a standard size ATX MB (less PCI,
peripheral slots). There's no reason for it not to fit in any size
case, as the mounting holes are standard with any ATX MB, micro or
otherwise, AFAIK.

Motherboards don't come with HSFs for the CPU. You may be thinking of
the heatsink and/or fan that fits onto the North Bridge and sometimes
the South Bridge chipset chips.


> "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
> news:u4ydnXHmm8A4Is3bnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>> Joel wrote:
>>> What is this "hsf" you are talking about?

>>
>> HeatSink/Fan. The heatsink with a fan attached to cool the CPU.
>>
>> [snip]




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Old 05-20-2007, 10:47 PM
kony
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

On Sun, 20 May 2007 16:18:46 -0500, "Joel"
<joel@wrong.aol.com> wrote:

>Thanks alot. I've never had an micro atx board before though. I just ordered
>it, so I hope it will still fit in my old atx case (holes line up?). Anyone
>know? If not, I need to go ahead and buy the case now too, but there is a
>store here locally that I can buy that from.
>


I think the linked board might've been an example (only).
Ideally for a fileserver you'd get as many SATA (or other)
drive ports as possible and Gigabit Lan.



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Old 05-20-2007, 11:53 PM
Jan Alter
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Default Re: help me buy a MOBO to replace broken one?

Joel-
From re-reading your original post and responses from other posters I'm
starting to wonder why you think you've nailed the problem as being either
the mb or the cpu. When you turn the computer on what happens? Do you get
any lights? Does something come up on the monitor? Do you hear any noises?
Give some details to corroborate your theory so folks can help with your
premise.

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"RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
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> Joel wrote:
>> Well that sucks. I figured the mobo would come with that. My last asus
>> did....let me guess....my heat sink/fan on my old ATX mobo won't
>> work on this micro atx board?

>
> A HSF comes with a retail purchase of a CPU. Most folks buy the CPU OEM
> (Original Equipment Manufacturer) without a HSF and purchase a better one
> seperately, espcially since the provided HSF does not cool well when
> overclocking a CPU.
>
> A microATX MB is simply shorter than a standard size ATX MB (less PCI,
> peripheral slots). There's no reason for it not to fit in any size case,
> as the mounting holes are standard with any ATX MB, micro or otherwise,
> AFAIK.
>
> Motherboards don't come with HSFs for the CPU. You may be thinking of the
> heatsink and/or fan that fits onto the North Bridge and sometimes the
> South Bridge chipset chips.
>
>
>> "RobV" <robert@nowhere.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:u4ydnXHmm8A4Is3bnZ2dnUVZ_rCsnZ2d@adelphia.com ...
>>> Joel wrote:
>>>> What is this "hsf" you are talking about?
>>>
>>> HeatSink/Fan. The heatsink with a fan attached to cool the CPU.
>>>
>>> [snip]

>
>




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