"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
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>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
> I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>
virtual drive equating to a folder
Read what you wrote <g>.
You don`t play folders.
You `play` what`s IN the folder.
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:28:03 GMT, "meerkat" <man@cov.com> wrote:
>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:9tj7f3d1ptqljckl78gd52u2sls83ed5rb@4ax.com.. .
>>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
>> I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>
>virtual drive equating to a folder
>
>Read what you wrote <g>.
>You don`t play folders.
>You `play` what`s IN the folder.
>
Yep - The content of the folder is what would be the content of a
disk. Same question.
"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:28:03 GMT, "meerkat" <man@cov.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>>news:9tj7f3d1ptqljckl78gd52u2sls83ed5rb@4ax.com. ..
>>>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
>>> I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>>
>>virtual drive equating to a folder
>>
>>Read what you wrote <g>.
>>You don`t play folders.
>>You `play` what`s IN the folder.
>>
>
>
> Yep - The content of the folder is what would be the content of a
> disk. Same question.
>
> Jethro
How would you 'play' the file in a normal folder? Do the same thing to the
file in the virtual folder.
"Jethro" wrote ...
>
> "meerkat" wrote:
>>
>>"Jethro" wrote ...
>>> I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how
>>> do
>>> I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>>
>>
>>virtual drive equating to a folder
>>
>>Read what you wrote <g>.
>>You don`t play folders.
>>You `play` what`s IN the folder.
>
> Yep - The content of the folder is what would be the content of a
> disk. Same question.
Use a player that supports whatever files you have there.
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
>I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jethro
I can see I didn't ask the question right.
I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder d:\testfolder.
Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual disk
drive? Or can I?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:51:55 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
>>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
>>I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Jethro
>
>
>I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>
>I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder d:\testfolder.
>Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual disk
>drive? Or can I?
>
>Thanks
>
>Jethro
By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts that
I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following clear
instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of wasting
disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a virtual
drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
disks.
"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:51:55 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how
>>>do
>>>I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Jethro
>>
>>
>>I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>>
>>I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder
>>d:\testfolder.
>>Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>>Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual disk
>>drive? Or can I?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Jethro
>
>
> By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts
> that
> I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following
> clear
> instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of
> wasting
> disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a
> virtual
> drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
> that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
> played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
> that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
> disks.
>
> I hope this makes things clearer
>
Hi J. now we`re getting somewhere.
You`re experimenting with discs.
My own experiments are Always carried out with CD-RW, or
DV-RW discs.
That way, you don`t knacker dozens of discs, and when you`ve
sorted any problems, you burn the final.
RW discs are of course erasible, and re-usable.(big floppies).
bw..
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:19:33 GMT, "meerkat" <man@cov.com> wrote:
>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:rp48f3tl8vhvmkdvsec93fvtgm5lkr00rk@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:51:55 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how
>>>>do
>>>>I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks
>>>>
>>>>Jethro
>>>
>>>
>>>I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>>>
>>>I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder
>>>d:\testfolder.
>>>Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>>>Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual disk
>>>drive? Or can I?
>>>
>>>Thanks
>>>
>>>Jethro
>>
>>
>> By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts
>> that
>> I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following
>> clear
>> instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of
>> wasting
>> disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a
>> virtual
>> drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
>> that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
>> played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
>> that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
>> disks.
>>
>> I hope this makes things clearer
>>
>Hi J. now we`re getting somewhere.
>You`re experimenting with discs.
>My own experiments are Always carried out with CD-RW, or
>DV-RW discs.
>That way, you don`t knacker dozens of discs, and when you`ve
>sorted any problems, you burn the final.
>
>RW discs are of course erasible, and re-usable.(big floppies).
>bw..
>
That'll work. I guess I can't mount (old UNIX term - I remember the
days!) the virtual drive as a cd drive and play it huh?
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:27:16 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>
>> >I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now how do
>> >I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>> >
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >Jethro
>>
>>
>> I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>>
>> I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder d:\testfolder.
>> Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>> Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual disk
>> drive? Or can I?
>
> It seems like you *still* asking the wrong question <bg>
>
>- Q. How to play from virtual drive?
> A. just play just like any other drive
>
>- Q. what is the benefit from using virtual drive (VirtualCD/DVD)
> A. So you can run directly from ISO file without having to burn to CD/DVD
>
>- Q. How can I play video from virtual drive?
> A. You just need to use Video Player to load video file from virtual
> drive.
>
>- Q. How can I play VCD disc?
> A. Most video players should play VCD format.
>
> - If it isn't auto-play then you will have to load the video file manually
>
> - If the video file isn't .MPG or standard video extention (example VCD
> uses .DAT) then you will have to tell the Video Player to load/play
> .DAT file.
>
>- Q. Do I need to copy from virtual drive to hard drive?
> A. you are free to do whatever you wish, or unless you want to file on
> hard drive instead of ISO, else nothing can stop you from running
> directly from virtual drive.
>
> Or *if* you can copy from virual drive then of course you can run from
>virtual drive.
>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jethro
As Meerkat suggested, I can use VCD-RW disks to test my creations as I
make them and thereby not continue wasting VCD-R disks. I still would
have to go through the artifice of creating a new disk to 'play' each
time. I was trying to avoid that - but I still see no way to actually
play the content of an existing disk from a copy (files - not image)
of same on hard disk. All this to try to determine why a stated
method of making a VCD disk auto-playable (with autorun.inf and
vcd.asx) doesn't want to work at least for me.
"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:27:16 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now
>>> >how do
>>> >I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>> >
>>> >Thanks
>>> >
>>> >Jethro
>>>
>>>
>>> I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>>>
>>> I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder
>>> d:\testfolder.
>>> Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>>> Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual
>>> disk
>>> drive? Or can I?
>>
>> It seems like you *still* asking the wrong question <bg>
>>
>>- Q. How to play from virtual drive?
>> A. just play just like any other drive
>>
>>- Q. what is the benefit from using virtual drive (VirtualCD/DVD)
>> A. So you can run directly from ISO file without having to burn to
>> CD/DVD
>>
>>- Q. How can I play video from virtual drive?
>> A. You just need to use Video Player to load video file from
>> virtual
>> drive.
>>
>>- Q. How can I play VCD disc?
>> A. Most video players should play VCD format.
>>
>> - If it isn't auto-play then you will have to load the video file
>> manually
>>
>> - If the video file isn't .MPG or standard video extention (example
>> VCD
>> uses .DAT) then you will have to tell the Video Player to
>> load/play
>> .DAT file.
>>
>>- Q. Do I need to copy from virtual drive to hard drive?
>> A. you are free to do whatever you wish, or unless you want to file
>> on
>> hard drive instead of ISO, else nothing can stop you from running
>> directly from virtual drive.
>>
>> Or *if* you can copy from virual drive then of course you can run
>> from
>>virtual drive.
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jethro
>
> As Meerkat suggested, I can use VCD-RW disks to test my creations as
> I
> make them and thereby not continue wasting VCD-R disks. I still
> would
> have to go through the artifice of creating a new disk to 'play'
> each
> time. I was trying to avoid that - but I still see no way to
> actually
> play the content of an existing disk from a copy (files - not image)
> of same on hard disk. All this to try to determine why a stated
> method of making a VCD disk auto-playable (with autorun.inf and
> vcd.asx) doesn't want to work at least for me.
>
One more try.
You say you have created an autorun VCD, and it won`t autorun ?.
If it doesn`t, it must have a fault ??.
Go to www.google.com, and type in create autorun VCD,
you`ll get loads of hits to investigate.
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:18:18 GMT, "meerkat" <man@cov.com> wrote:
>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:jq88f35l72b7au71v5fg6lui75q16biu7q@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:27:16 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:06:39 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >I created a virtual drive equating to a folder on my HDD. Now
>>>> >how do
>>>> >I execute the drive to simulate playing a disk in a drive?
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> >Jethro
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can see I didn't ask the question right.
>>>>
>>>> I copied the content of a video VCD disk into a folder
>>>> d:\testfolder.
>>>> Then I created f: as a virtual drive representing d:\testfolder.
>>>> Now - how do I then play that video from f: and not the actual
>>>> disk
>>>> drive? Or can I?
>>>
>>> It seems like you *still* asking the wrong question <bg>
>>>
>>>- Q. How to play from virtual drive?
>>> A. just play just like any other drive
>>>
>>>- Q. what is the benefit from using virtual drive (VirtualCD/DVD)
>>> A. So you can run directly from ISO file without having to burn to
>>> CD/DVD
>>>
>>>- Q. How can I play video from virtual drive?
>>> A. You just need to use Video Player to load video file from
>>> virtual
>>> drive.
>>>
>>>- Q. How can I play VCD disc?
>>> A. Most video players should play VCD format.
>>>
>>> - If it isn't auto-play then you will have to load the video file
>>> manually
>>>
>>> - If the video file isn't .MPG or standard video extention (example
>>> VCD
>>> uses .DAT) then you will have to tell the Video Player to
>>> load/play
>>> .DAT file.
>>>
>>>- Q. Do I need to copy from virtual drive to hard drive?
>>> A. you are free to do whatever you wish, or unless you want to file
>>> on
>>> hard drive instead of ISO, else nothing can stop you from running
>>> directly from virtual drive.
>>>
>>> Or *if* you can copy from virual drive then of course you can run
>>> from
>>>virtual drive.
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Jethro
>>
>> As Meerkat suggested, I can use VCD-RW disks to test my creations as
>> I
>> make them and thereby not continue wasting VCD-R disks. I still
>> would
>> have to go through the artifice of creating a new disk to 'play'
>> each
>> time. I was trying to avoid that - but I still see no way to
>> actually
>> play the content of an existing disk from a copy (files - not image)
>> of same on hard disk. All this to try to determine why a stated
>> method of making a VCD disk auto-playable (with autorun.inf and
>> vcd.asx) doesn't want to work at least for me.
>>
>One more try.
>You say you have created an autorun VCD, and it won`t autorun ?.
>If it doesn`t, it must have a fault ??.
That's an understatement. I can't agree with you more. I followed
explicitly the instructions to make a video vcd disk autorunnable
(autoplayable, whatever).
The instructions also say that such a disk, although patched to
autoplay on a computer, will not affect playing on a stand-alone
player. Not so. I have three players and my supposedly autorunnable
disk will not play at all. This despite the fact that the original
plays just fine on same players. Hence my dismay.
>Go to www.google.com, and type in create autorun VCD,
>you`ll get loads of hits to investigate.
>
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:49 GMT, Jethro
<Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts that
>I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following clear
>instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of wasting
>disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a virtual
>drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
>that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
>played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
>that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
>disks.
Use a burning app that supports creation of a CD Image, an
*.ISO file (Nero, etc). Next install a virtual drive
application like Daemon Tools. After the system has
rebooted (IIRC, it will need a reboot), use the Daemon Tools
icon in the tray to mount this ISO image, then it will
appear. One thing I am not certain about doing this (since
I leave autoinsert and autoplay functions disabled) is
whether it will initiate the autoplay functionality the
moment after the disc is mounted... I suspect so, but have
not tried it.
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 20:11:33 GMT, Jethro
<Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>As Meerkat suggested, I can use VCD-RW disks to test my creations as I
>make them and thereby not continue wasting VCD-R disks. I still would
>have to go through the artifice of creating a new disk to 'play' each
>time. I was trying to avoid that - but I still see no way to actually
>play the content of an existing disk from a copy (files - not image)
>of same on hard disk.
Note that the latter versions have an adware you need to
deselect to keep it from installing during the installation
process, it might require choosing a "custom" install then
deselecting the checkbox.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:10:05 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:49 GMT, Jethro
>> <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts that
>> >I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following clear
>> >instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of wasting
>> >disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a virtual
>> >drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
>> >that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
>> >played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
>> >that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
>> >disks.
>>
>>
>> Use a burning app that supports creation of a CD Image, an
>> *.ISO file (Nero, etc). Next install a virtual drive
>> application like Daemon Tools. After the system has
>> rebooted (IIRC, it will need a reboot), use the Daemon Tools
>> icon in the tray to mount this ISO image, then it will
>
> If it requires to reboot (something isn't right) then I would suggest to
>use another virtualCD program instead. I am using Alcohol 120% which is not
>only virtualCD/DVD but it's also ISO burner (which supports just about all
>popular ISO formats).
Hmmm - I don't see that Alcohol creates an ISO image - just .mds and
..ccd. Is that so?
Jethro
>Or if reboot is required then I don't think I can get
>much done as I often either converting, authoring, downloading or in middle
>of something.
>
> IOW, a normal VirtualCD should let you Mound/UnMound anytime you want, and
>shouldn't require rebooting.
>
>> appear. One thing I am not certain about doing this (since
>> I leave autoinsert and autoplay functions disabled) is
>> whether it will initiate the autoplay functionality the
>> moment after the disc is mounted... I suspect so, but have
>> not tried it.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:47:26 GMT, Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:10:05 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>
>>kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:49 GMT, Jethro
>>> <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> >By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts that
>>> >I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following clear
>>> >instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of wasting
>>> >disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a virtual
>>> >drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
>>> >that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
>>> >played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
>>> >that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
>>> >disks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Use a burning app that supports creation of a CD Image, an
>>> *.ISO file (Nero, etc). Next install a virtual drive
>>> application like Daemon Tools. After the system has
>>> rebooted (IIRC, it will need a reboot), use the Daemon Tools
>>> icon in the tray to mount this ISO image, then it will
>>
>> If it requires to reboot (something isn't right) then I would suggest to
>>use another virtualCD program instead. I am using Alcohol 120% which is not
>>only virtualCD/DVD but it's also ISO burner (which supports just about all
>>popular ISO formats).
>
>Hmmm - I don't see that Alcohol creates an ISO image - just .mds and
>.ccd. Is that so?
>Jethro
>
>>Or if reboot is required then I don't think I can get
>>much done as I often either converting, authoring, downloading or in middle
>>of something.
>>
>> IOW, a normal VirtualCD should let you Mound/UnMound anytime you want, and
>>shouldn't require rebooting.
>>
>>> appear. One thing I am not certain about doing this (since
>>> I leave autoinsert and autoplay functions disabled) is
>>> whether it will initiate the autoplay functionality the
>>> moment after the disc is mounted... I suspect so, but have
>>> not tried it.
I am going to try all this again, but first -
My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD drive' as
f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of both to get back
to base point. I have tried, but have not found a way to delete them
that works. They surely resulted from my experimenting with Virtual
Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A. Associates and/or Virtual Drive Manager
by Farstone and/or Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT Soft Ltd. So my
first request is for help to get rid of f: and g: drives.
Secondly, I used Roxio to create a .ccd image in a HDD folder from the
VCD disk that I had created, but can't get to auto play (auto run).
Then, I extracted all the folders/files from that image to another
hard disk folder. Next, I changed a few files in the hope of
correcting the problem.
At this point. I want to test the result. That is, I want to make
what now have into something hopefully playable (runnable). I could
create a new VCD disk with this and test that, but right now I don't
have any RW disks. I figure I have to make a new image on a virtual
drive (or is it virtual CD?) which can then act like a real
drive/disk. So - how do I accomplish this? That is, how many steps
are involved, and what are they?
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:10:05 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
>kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:56:49 GMT, Jethro
>> <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >By way of further explanation - you can see from my earlier posts that
>> >I cannot seem to make a auto-playing VCD disk despite following clear
>> >instruction on the web as to how to do it. And I am tired of wasting
>> >disks to make my tests. So I thought to simulate a disk via a virtual
>> >drive. So that is what I am really up to. The content I said above
>> >that I copied is the content of a VCD disk that should have auto
>> >played but does not. I thought I could play some with the elements
>> >that were supposed to make it work, but I wanted to stop wasting
>> >disks.
>>
>>
>> Use a burning app that supports creation of a CD Image, an
>> *.ISO file (Nero, etc). Next install a virtual drive
>> application like Daemon Tools. After the system has
>> rebooted (IIRC, it will need a reboot), use the Daemon Tools
>> icon in the tray to mount this ISO image, then it will
>
> If it requires to reboot (something isn't right) then I would suggest to
>use another virtualCD program instead.
There is no reason to think there is a problem, sometimes
low level stuff does require a reboot. VirtualCD is not as
powerful as Daemon Tools, at least the last time I compared
the two it was not, but that has been over a year ago.
> I am using Alcohol 120% which is not
>only virtualCD/DVD but it's also ISO burner (which supports just about all
>popular ISO formats). Or if reboot is required then I don't think I can get
>much done as I often either converting, authoring, downloading or in middle
>of something.
I think you misunderstand. The system may need rebooted one
time only, after the virtualized CD program is installed.
Never again will it need rebooted to mount or unmount a disc
image.
>
> IOW, a normal VirtualCD should let you Mound/UnMound anytime you want, and
>shouldn't require rebooting.
As does Daemon Tools, which is free for the basic version
(just dont install the adware by unchecking the box during
installation).
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:28:46 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
><snip>
>> I am going to try all this again, but first -
>>
>> My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD drive' as
>> f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of both to get back
>> to base point. I have tried, but have not found a way to delete them
>> that works. They surely resulted from my experimenting with Virtual
>> Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A. Associates and/or Virtual Drive Manager
>> by Farstone and/or Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT Soft Ltd. So my
>> first request is for help to get rid of f: and g: drives.
>
> I don't use what you use, but in general if you want to get rid of the
>virtualCD then one of the best ways is to rmove the program.
I didn't want to remove the program virtualcd itself. In fact I don't
have that program. I didn't realize there was a program by that name.
Anyway I want to delete what apparently was created by my other
programs, namely what MyComputer now shows as 'DVD drive' as
f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:
>
> And I don't use any above to know much about them, but with Alcohol 120% I
>can create multiple virtualCD if I want, and I have 2 virtualCDs
I haven't yet tried to actually make a virtual CD - I'll look at that.
>
>> Secondly, I used Roxio to create a .ccd image in a HDD folder from the
>> VCD disk that I had created, but can't get to auto play (auto run).
>> Then, I extracted all the folders/files from that image to another
>> hard disk folder. Next, I changed a few files in the hope of
>> correcting the problem.
>
> I think you still have problem understanding the whole thing. Lets see if
>I can break the whole problem into smaller pieces hoping you may get some
>idea.
>
>- ISO imaged is the *exact* copy of the original (imaged = mirrored =
>identical = exact etc..) or you will get the exact image of the *original*
>
>- *If* the *original* auto-play then 99.99% chance that the ISO image will
>auto-play
>
>- *if* the original DOES NOT auto-play then ZERO chance for the ISO image to
>play.
I thought it might - if I re-created an ISO with a correction made to
the extraction I made to the first ISO. Which I did,
>
>- *If* the original auto-play but ISO image won't play then 90-99.9% chance
>that something is wrong with either your CD/DVD player or setting. *not*
>the CD itself.
>
>> At this point. I want to test the result. That is, I want to make
>> what now have into something hopefully playable (runnable). I could
>> create a new VCD disk with this and test that, but right now I don't
>> have any RW disks. I figure I have to make a new image on a virtual
>> drive (or is it virtual CD?) which can then act like a real
>> drive/disk. So - how do I accomplish this? That is, how many steps
>> are involved, and what are they?
>
> What playable? the CD? the VCD (video?). I read you say "VCD" which I
>assume it's VCD disc (video), but I haven't heard what you try to play with.
I believe I said 'VCD disk'. I would want to play same by (1) Windows
Media Player, (2-4) my three stand-alone disk players in the family
room.
>
>- Do you try to play with stand-alone DVD player? Does it support VCD or
>CD-R? or exactly what does it say?
Nothing - the original disk loads, but stops there, and will not play.
>
>- Do you try to play from computer? what program you try to play? how do
>you play?
>
Answered above.
>- If you burn to CD-RW then how do you play?
I said I did not have any RW's right now.
> stand-alone DVD player or PC?
both
>and again what program? how you play?
Windows Media Player on PC.
>
> Sure, you can make ISO from many different CDR program like Roxio, many
>virtualCD, Nero, Alcohol 120 etc.. and sure you can mount and play from
>VirtualCD. But again, how you play and what program you try to play? Do
>you have your computer set-up to auto-play?
>
> It's hard for other to give you the right answer when you are the one who
>have all the answers.
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:46:23 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:28:46 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>> >
>> ><snip>
>> >> I am going to try all this again, but first -
>> >>
>> >> My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD drive' as
>> >> f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of both to get back
>> >> to base point. I have tried, but have not found a way to delete them
>> >> that works. They surely resulted from my experimenting with Virtual
>> >> Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A. Associates and/or Virtual Drive Manager
>> >> by Farstone and/or Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT Soft Ltd. So my
>> >> first request is for help to get rid of f: and g: drives.
>> >
>> > I don't use what you use, but in general if you want to get rid of the
>> >virtualCD then one of the best ways is to rmove the program.
>>
>> I didn't want to remove the program virtualcd itself. In fact I don't
>> have that program. I didn't realize there was a program by that name.
>> Anyway I want to delete what apparently was created by my other
>> programs, namely what MyComputer now shows as 'DVD drive' as
>> f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:
>
> No. VirtualCD is the universal_name *not* the name of any program (who
>knows there may be one with that name). Or "name" is the word to call
>someone, something, some animal etc.. not someone named Name <bg>
>
>> > And I don't use any above to know much about them, but with Alcohol 120% I
>> >can create multiple virtualCD if I want, and I have 2 virtualCDs
>>
>> I haven't yet tried to actually make a virtual CD - I'll look at that.
>
> Alcohol will create (reserve one drive letter for 1 virtualCD) ONE
>VirtualCD no matter if you create or not. And that VirtualVD will be
>actived when you MOUNT the ISO.
>
>> >> Secondly, I used Roxio to create a .ccd image in a HDD folder from the
>> >> VCD disk that I had created, but can't get to auto play (auto run).
>> >> Then, I extracted all the folders/files from that image to another
>> >> hard disk folder. Next, I changed a few files in the hope of
>> >> correcting the problem.
>> >
>> > I think you still have problem understanding the whole thing. Lets see if
>> >I can break the whole problem into smaller pieces hoping you may get some
>> >idea.
>> >
>> >- ISO imaged is the *exact* copy of the original (imaged = mirrored =
>> >identical = exact etc..) or you will get the exact image of the *original*
>> >
>> >- *If* the *original* auto-play then 99.99% chance that the ISO image will
>> >auto-play
>> >
>> >- *if* the original DOES NOT auto-play then ZERO chance for the ISO image to
>> >play.
>>
>> I thought it might - if I re-created an ISO with a correction made to
>> the extraction I made to the first ISO. Which I did,
>
> You have me confused here. This is what I think I understand what you say
>
>- You extracted an ISO to hard drive (lets say ISO #1)
Yes
>
>- Re-created an ISO from the extracted ISO (lets say ISO #2)
No
>
> .. if so, you will get the exact same *original* ISO #1, and you will have
>the *exact* problem ISO #1 has.
If I did that - I would agree.
>
>> >- *If* the original auto-play but ISO image won't play then 90-99.9% chance
>> >that something is wrong with either your CD/DVD player or setting. *not*
>> >the CD itself.
The original would NOT auto play. But I could and can play it fine by
opening Media Player and selecting the disk as input directly. It
also plays on my stand-alone players fine. But I want it to auto play
on my computer. Hence I thought if could un compress the ISO image
(#1), which I did, add auto run.inf and vcd.asx, re-make the VCD disk
- that then maybe I could get a disk that not only still plays on my
stand alone Players, but would now auto play on my computer as well.
>> >
>> >> At this point. I want to test the result. That is, I want to make
>> >> what now have into something hopefully playable (runnable). I could
>> >> create a new VCD disk with this and test that, but right now I don't
>> >> have any RW disks. I figure I have to make a new image on a virtual
>> >> drive (or is it virtual CD?) which can then act like a real
>> >> drive/disk. So - how do I accomplish this? That is, how many steps
>> >> are involved, and what are they?
>> >
>> > What playable? the CD? the VCD (video?). I read you say "VCD" which I
>> >assume it's VCD disc (video), but I haven't heard what you try to play with.
>>
>> I believe I said 'VCD disk'. I would want to play same by (1) Windows
>> Media Player, (2-4) my three stand-alone disk players in the family
>> room.
>
> *If* it's VCD disc then it should auto-play by any stand-alone DVD player
>supports VCD and CD-R. You don't need to do anything, because that is what
>VCD does. If you try on PC then it's another story, because it will depend
>on the program and setup.
That's what it does, but I wanted to make it auto play on the PC.
>
> I believe some version of MS MediaPlayer will auto-play *if* you have it
>setup to auto-play.
>
>> >- Do you try to play with stand-alone DVD player? Does it support VCD or
>> >CD-R? or exactly what does it say?
>>
>> Nothing - the original disk loads, but stops there, and will not play.
I guess I mis-stated here. Sorry. The modified disk (with auto
run.inf and vcd .asx files added) loads and stops. The original plays
on the stand-alone DVD player fine.
>
> Then.
>
>- It's possible that the CD is damaged. This you can check using your
>computer
>
>- It's possible that your stand-alone DVD player doesn't support the format,
>CD-R
>
>- It's possible that the CD you believe it's VCD isn't VCD.
>
>> >- Do you try to play from computer? what program you try to play? how do
>> >you play?
>> >
>> Answered above.
>> >- If you burn to CD-RW then how do you play?
>>
>> I said I did not have any RW's right now.
>> > stand-alone DVD player or PC?
>>
>> both
>>
>> >and again what program? how you play?
>>
>> Windows Media Player on PC.
>
> What does MS MediaPlayer say? Do you know how to play other video file?
>If you do then just forget the VCD thing but try to play any other video
>format. lets say it's "AVI", "MPG", "WMV", "MOV"
>
> What I am trying to say that.
>
>- *IF* it doesn't auto-play then why don't you maunally select the file see
>if it's video file.
>
>- *If* it doesn't auto-play then why don't you use Windows Explorer to see
>what on the CD.
>
> ... or you need to find out what's wrong with the CD first before you can
>make it auto-play. Who knows it may not be the VCD? Also, you said you
>copied, extracted to hard drive (??) what did you see? did you try to play
>it from hard drive?
>
>> > Sure, you can make ISO from many different CDR program like Roxio, many
>> >virtualCD, Nero, Alcohol 120 etc.. and sure you can mount and play from
>> >VirtualCD. But again, how you play and what program you try to play? Do
>> >you have your computer set-up to auto-play?
>> >
>> > It's hard for other to give you the right answer when you are the one who
>> >have all the answers.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> >
>> >> Thanks much
>> >>
>> >> Jethro
Joel wrote:
> Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> > I am going to try all this again, but first -
> >
> > My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD drive' as
> > f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of both to get
> > back to base point. I have tried, but have not found a way to
> > delete them that works. They surely resulted from my experimenting
> > with Virtual Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A. Associates and/or Virtual
> > Drive Manager by Farstone and/or Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT
> > Soft Ltd. So my first request is for help to get rid of f: and g:
> > drives.
<SNIP>
This is a software issue, why are we still talking about it in
alt.comp.HARDWARE?
Somebody give the OP directions to the right group please. Simply by dint of
the fact that he's posted here in the first place it seems he might not be
very capable.
--
TTFN.
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:17:12 +1200, "~misfit~"
<misfit61nz@hayoo.com.au> wrote:
>Joel wrote:
>> Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>> > I am going to try all this again, but first -
>> >
>> > My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD drive' as
>> > f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of both to get
>> > back to base point. I have tried, but have not found a way to
>> > delete them that works. They surely resulted from my experimenting
>> > with Virtual Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A. Associates and/or Virtual
>> > Drive Manager by Farstone and/or Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT
>> > Soft Ltd. So my first request is for help to get rid of f: and g:
>> > drives.
>
>
><SNIP>
>
>This is a software issue, why are we still talking about it in
>alt.comp.HARDWARE?
>
>Somebody give the OP directions to the right group please. Simply by dint of
>the fact that he's posted here in the first place it seems he might not be
>very capable.
Joel wrote:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hayoo.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Joel wrote:
> > > Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > > > I am going to try all this again, but first -
> > > >
> > > > My Computer now shows two virtual 'things'. I have a 'DVD
> > > > drive' as f: and a 'Virtual drive' as g:. I want to get rid of
> > > > both to get back to base point. I have tried, but have not
> > > > found a way to delete them that works. They surely resulted
> > > > from my experimenting with Virtual Drive Creator V2.1.4 by J.A.
> > > > Associates and/or Virtual Drive Manager by Farstone and/or
> > > > Virtual DAEMON Tools V4.10 by DT Soft Ltd. So my first request
> > > > is for help to get rid of f: and g: drives.
> >
> >
> > <SNIP>
> >
> > This is a software issue, why are we still talking about it in
> > alt.comp.HARDWARE?
> >
> > Somebody give the OP directions to the right group please. Simply
> > by dint of the fact that he's posted here in the first place it
> > seems he might not be very capable.
>
> We are waiting for you to give the right direction. And I am pretty
> sure CD-ROM or DVD drive is hardware not software (but I may be
> wrong) <bg>
Sure, if we were talking about a physical drive. However, the word "virtual"
is a bit of a give-away.
--
TTFN.
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:31:41 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
>"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hayoo.com.au> wrote:
>
><snip>
>> > > <SNIP>
>> > >
>> > > This is a software issue, why are we still talking about it in
>> > > alt.comp.HARDWARE?
>> > >
>> > > Somebody give the OP directions to the right group please. Simply
>> > > by dint of the fact that he's posted here in the first place it
>> > > seems he might not be very capable.
>> >
>> > We are waiting for you to give the right direction. And I am pretty
>> > sure CD-ROM or DVD drive is hardware not software (but I may be
>> > wrong) <bg>
>>
>> Sure, if we were talking about a physical drive. However, the word "virtual"
>> is a bit of a give-away.
>
> VirtualCD and ActualCD are 2 different things, the guy has problem with
>his DVD to auto-play his VCD disc (it's hardware too) so he talks about
>VirtualCD, CD-RW, .INF, directly from hard drive and what else I can't
>remember.
>
> And we were shooting around for awhile to find out that the VCD itself is
>working fine (with his stand-alone DVD player .. finally!), but he wants to
>auto-play on his PC which I tried to give as much information as possible,
>but he doesn't seem to get the picture.
>
> IOW, it the combination of his hardware and software/OS setup.
Please refrain from using the term "VirtualCD" if it is not
the specific application named "VirtualCD". That is a
trademark name reserved for one application and cannot
reasonably be used to describe it's functionality when
"virtual CD" or "CD emulator" terms exist. It only creates
confusion to use a term reserved for one application to
describe using a competing application instead.
"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
news:3sebf39t0alt233tp14hotltpvfn0e2fb8@4ax.com...
> kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:46:23 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > No. VirtualCD is the universal_name *not* the name of any program (who
>> >knows there may be one with that name).
>>
>> No, "virtual CD" is a universal name. "VirtualCD" is the
>> name of a specific program _only_.
>
> And just like I said "who knows may be one with that name".
They are on version 9 of "VirtualCD", now. I have version 8
and as one of the early players in this area, it can do a lot with
both its own image files and many others. (I got version 3 a
number of years ago, to play CD intensive games at ~200X
hardware CD speeds.)
But the OP is tilting at windmills, he wants a modified
VCD file structure that can work in both standalone VCD
capable players and autoplay in XP. It appears that adding
the features needed to have XP autoplay or autorun the CD
makes it unacceptable to the standalone players. (At least
adding them in the manner he has so far.)
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 20:03:48 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
><snip>
>> The original would NOT auto play. But I could and can play it fine by
>> opening Media Player and selecting the disk as input directly. It
>> also plays on my stand-alone players fine. But I want it to auto play
>> on my computer. Hence I thought if could un compress the ISO image
>> (#1), which I did, add auto run.inf and vcd.asx, re-make the VCD disk
>> - that then maybe I could get a disk that not only still plays on my
>> stand alone Players, but would now auto play on my computer as well.
>
> Thank goodness! it's getting somewhere <bg>
>
>- If it auto-play on stand-alone DVD player then it's a perfect working VCD,
> it doesn't need to do anything else to it.
I intended to drop my part of this thread, and take my marbles and go
home, but here I am again, looking for help. To use your terms, yes,
the original disk I made plays and I guess you could say 'auto-plays'
on stand-alone DVD player.
>
>- No, unlike computer VIDEO has its own requirement and .INF or .ASX isn't
>part of it, so it won't even see it. Also, if you want to create an
>auto-run for computer program then you will need to tell the .INF what
>program to load else it wouldn't do anything either.
Yes I know computer VIDEO has its own requirements. It should react
to its 'auto play or the something in the content of the disk itself.
Since I can't get the VCD disk to auto play on itself I know enough
that I must add logic to cause the computer to play the disk. Hence
my auto run.asf file should execute metafile vsx.asf and contains:
[autorun]
ShellExecute=VCD.ASX
which, in turn, contains the following to hopefully start the playing:
Naturally, avseq01.dat and avseq02.dat are in folder mgegav on the
original disk.
>- And as I have mentioned several times before, *if* the working VCD doesn't
>auto-play on your PC then there must be some SETTING on your computer to
>tell the CD-ROM to auto-play when it detects the CD/DVD.
Starting the VCD disk in my PC does not invoke auto play - but from
what I read on web sites, VCD disks are 'not auto playable on PCs
anyway. So no wonder then.
>
> But it still won't auto-play because it will need to know which program to
>auto-play the video. So you will need a working combination of Hardware &
>Software for it to work.
>
> If you don't get the above setup correctly then burning to CD-RW or
>mounting to VirtualCD won't do anything, because there is no communication
>between hardware and software.
Oh I agree whole heatedly - I thought though at least a RW disk would
not waste disks as I try different things.
>
>> >> >
>> >> >> At this point. I want to test the result. That is, I want to make
>> >> >> what now have into something hopefully playable (runnable). I could
>> >> >> create a new VCD disk with this and test that, but right now I don't
>> >> >> have any RW disks. I figure I have to make a new image on a virtual
>> >> >> drive (or is it virtual CD?) which can then act like a real
>> >> >> drive/disk. So - how do I accomplish this? That is, how many steps
>> >> >> are involved, and what are they?
>> >> >
>> >> > What playable? the CD? the VCD (video?). I read you say "VCD" which I
>> >> >assume it's VCD disc (video), but I haven't heard what you try to play with.
>> >>
>> >> I believe I said 'VCD disk'. I would want to play same by (1) Windows
>> >> Media Player, (2-4) my three stand-alone disk players in the family
>> >> room.
>> >
>> > *If* it's VCD disc then it should auto-play by any stand-alone DVD player
>> >supports VCD and CD-R. You don't need to do anything, because that is what
>> >VCD does. If you try on PC then it's another story, because it will depend
>> >on the program and setup.
>>
>> That's what it does, but I wanted to make it auto play on the PC.
>
> And that's what we need to know before we can be able to figure out
>something else. And I have repeated the similar questions several times but
>just can't get any answer from you <bg>. See above.
>
>> > I believe some version of MS MediaPlayer will auto-play *if* you have it
>> >setup to auto-play.
>> >
>> >> >- Do you try to play with stand-alone DVD player? Does it support VCD or
>> >> >CD-R? or exactly what does it say?
>> >>
>> >> Nothing - the original disk loads, but stops there, and will not play.
>>
>> I guess I mis-stated here. Sorry. The modified disk (with auto
>> run.inf and vcd .asx files added) loads and stops. The original plays
>> on the stand-alone DVD player fine.
>
> As I mentioned above adding anything else to the VCD or DVD won't do
>anything because the CD/DVD designed to read only specific extention.
>
> I dunno, if you want to mess with the computer auto-run then I guess it
>probably possible if you can add the command to the .INF to
>
>1. Auto-load the MS MediaPlayer
>
>2. Then tell it to load whatever video file from whatever folder.
>
> -NOTE- I don't know the command, but I can give you an example
>
>run c:\windows\msplayer.exe d:\video\Jethro.mpg
>
>-To tell the computer to load MSPlayer.exe from C:\Windows. If you have
>MSPlayer.exe on other drive/folder then it won't work
>
>- Then tell MSPlayer.exe to load Jetho.mpg from D:\Video. And it won't work
>if your CD is other drive letter instead of D:
>
> ... then you may modify the above for better command line like.
>
>Run MSPlayer.exe \video\JeThro.mpg
How do I play a virtual drive? 