How to instal SATA drive - attempt #2

I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues with
the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.

I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.

I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
connections.

I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows XP
Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup drive.

The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a backup
drive.

I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it still
will not boot-up.

These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:

1. BIOS settings:
a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device

2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the new
drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".

3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings in
1 above?

4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed and
recognized by Windows.

Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?

regards

PeterH

> 1. BIOS settings:
> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device


But you want to boot just as you always have...it's just going to be a
backup drive right?


> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".


Nope. You're not setting up a RAID...again you just want to use it as
another drive.


> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
> in 1 above?

All you needed to do is connect the drive. No settings needed to be changed
in Bios (except turning on the SATA controller). If you can get into Windows
with the SATA drive showing up in My Computer then you're halfway there (you
probably won't be able to access it though). At this point boot off your
windows CD (loading the SATA drivers from floppy disk when prompted) and
create the NTFS partition on the SATA drive (be careful NOT to continue the
Windows installation after the partition is created). Once the partition is
created just reboot the system back into Windows and format the drive.
--


"I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!"
- Alceryes






"My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
news:aZ25f.21270$U51.6835@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues with
>the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.
>
> I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
> install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.
>
> I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
> connections.
>
> I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows XP
> Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup
> drive.
>
> The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a backup
> drive.
>
> I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it still
> will not boot-up.
>
> These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:
>
> 1. BIOS settings:
> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>
> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>
> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
> in 1 above?
>
> 4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
> drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed
> and recognized by Windows.
>
> Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?
>
> regards
>
> PeterH
>
>

It sounds to me like your system is identifying the newly installed sata
drive as drive 0 and subsequently identifying your old boot drive as drive 1
hence windows can't find your boot files.
in order to fix this remove the sata drive and boot into windows once in
make sure that system and hidden files are visible then open "boot.ini" in
notepad, it will probably look as below

[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

edit as follows

[boot loader]
timeout=5
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
Professional No SATA" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn

I have added a line that will not only allow you to boot the system if you
remove the SATA drive but also if i've got it wrong you can get into windows
at all
save the file, re-attach the sata drive and reboot



"My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
news:aZ25f.21270$U51.6835@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues with
>the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.
>
> I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
> install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.
>
> I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
> connections.
>
> I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows XP
> Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup
> drive.
>
> The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a backup
> drive.
>
> I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it still
> will not boot-up.
>
> These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:
>
> 1. BIOS settings:
> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>
> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>
> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
> in 1 above?
>
> 4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
> drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed
> and recognized by Windows.
>
> Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?
>
> regards
>
> PeterH
>
>

I presume I delete the current setting under CTRL-F.
Can I format the disk without the system disk (ie IDE drive) being
connected. That is, just have the new drive connected and format it by
itself - just to be safe.


"Alceryes" <replytopost@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:Nl75f.17961$q1.8234@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>> 1. BIOS settings:
>> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
>> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
>> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>
>
> But you want to boot just as you always have...it's just going to be a
> backup drive right?
>
>
>> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
>> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
>> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>
>
> Nope. You're not setting up a RAID...again you just want to use it as
> another drive.
>
>
>> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
>> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
>> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
>> in 1 above?
>
> All you needed to do is connect the drive. No settings needed to be
> changed in Bios (except turning on the SATA controller). If you can get
> into Windows with the SATA drive showing up in My Computer then you're
> halfway there (you probably won't be able to access it though). At this
> point boot off your windows CD (loading the SATA drivers from floppy disk
> when prompted) and create the NTFS partition on the SATA drive (be careful
> NOT to continue the Windows installation after the partition is created).
> Once the partition is created just reboot the system back into Windows and
> format the drive.
> --
>
>
> "I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!"
> - Alceryes
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
> news:aZ25f.21270$U51.6835@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues
>>with the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.
>>
>> I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
>> install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.
>>
>> I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
>> connections.
>>
>> I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows XP
>> Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup
>> drive.
>>
>> The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a backup
>> drive.
>>
>> I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it still
>> will not boot-up.
>>
>> These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:
>>
>> 1. BIOS settings:
>> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
>> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
>> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>>
>> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
>> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
>> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>>
>> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
>> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
>> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
>> in 1 above?
>>
>> 4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
>> drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed
>> and recognized by Windows.
>>
>> Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> PeterH
>>
>>
>
>

> I have added a line that will not only allow you to boot the system if you
> remove the SATA drive but also if I've got it wrong you can get into
> windows at all
> save the file, re-attach the sata drive and reboot

Does this mean it is safe or not safe to use?? If you have it wrong can I
still get into Windows??


"harrog8" <harrog8@yahoodotcom> wrote in message
news:JZOdnavIvP7P58jeRVnyvg@pipex.net...
> It sounds to me like your system is identifying the newly installed sata
> drive as drive 0 and subsequently identifying your old boot drive as drive
> 1 hence windows can't find your boot files.
> in order to fix this remove the sata drive and boot into windows once in
> make sure that system and hidden files are visible then open "boot.ini" in
> notepad, it will probably look as below
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=30
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
> Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
>
> edit as follows
>
> [boot loader]
> timeout=5
> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOW S
> [operating systems]
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
> Professional" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Micro soft Windows XP
> Professional No SATA" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn
>
> I have added a line that will not only allow you to boot the system if you
> remove the SATA drive but also if i've got it wrong you can get into
> windows at all
> save the file, re-attach the sata drive and reboot
>
>
>
> "My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
> news:aZ25f.21270$U51.6835@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues
>>with the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.
>>
>> I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
>> install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.
>>
>> I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
>> connections.
>>
>> I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows XP
>> Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup
>> drive.
>>
>> The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a backup
>> drive.
>>
>> I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it still
>> will not boot-up.
>>
>> These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:
>>
>> 1. BIOS settings:
>> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
>> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
>> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>>
>> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
>> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
>> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>>
>> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start because
>> the following file is missing or corrupt : "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
>> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
>> in 1 above?
>>
>> 4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
>> drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed
>> and recognized by Windows.
>>
>> Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?
>>
>> regards
>>
>> PeterH
>>
>>
>
>

> connected. That is, just have the new drive connected and format it by
> itself - just to be safe.

It's not the formatting that's the problem. It's the creating of the NTFS
partition. Microsoft keeps a tight leash on it's proprietary file system.
Yes, you can have only the SATA drive attached when you boot from the OS CD
and create the partition.
--


"I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!"
- Alceryes





"My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
news:Q0o5f.22197$U51.11148@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>I presume I delete the current setting under CTRL-F.
> Can I format the disk without the system disk (ie IDE drive) being
> connected. That is, just have the new drive connected and format it by
> itself - just to be safe.
>
>
> "Alceryes" <replytopost@thankyou.com> wrote in message
> news:Nl75f.17961$q1.8234@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
>>> 1. BIOS settings:
>>> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
>>> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
>>> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>>
>>
>> But you want to boot just as you always have...it's just going to be a
>> backup drive right?
>>
>>
>>> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
>>> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
>>> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>>
>>
>> Nope. You're not setting up a RAID...again you just want to use it as
>> another drive.
>>
>>
>>> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start
>>> because the following file is missing or corrupt :
>>> "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
>>> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
>>> in 1 above?
>>
>> All you needed to do is connect the drive. No settings needed to be
>> changed in Bios (except turning on the SATA controller). If you can get
>> into Windows with the SATA drive showing up in My Computer then you're
>> halfway there (you probably won't be able to access it though). At this
>> point boot off your windows CD (loading the SATA drivers from floppy disk
>> when prompted) and create the NTFS partition on the SATA drive (be
>> careful NOT to continue the Windows installation after the partition is
>> created). Once the partition is created just reboot the system back into
>> Windows and format the drive.
>> --
>>
>>
>> "I don't cheat to survive. I cheat to LIVE!!"
>> - Alceryes
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "My View" <no spam ple@se.com> wrote in message
>> news:aZ25f.21270$U51.6835@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>I posted a similar topic back in August this year but had other issues
>>>with the hard drive and was never able to successfully install it.
>>>
>>> I have since had the drive replaced by Western Digital, so now I want to
>>> install it again on my PC but I am still having a problem doing this.
>>>
>>> I have an Asus P4S8X motherboard (about 3 years old) with 2 SATA
>>> connections.
>>>
>>> I currently have installed a primary IDE 200GB harddrive (with Windows
>>> XP Pro SP2 installed) and a secondary IDE 80GB HD that acts as a backup
>>> drive.
>>>
>>> The new drive is a 200GB SATA drive that I now want to instal as a
>>> backup drive.
>>>
>>> I have tried methods outlined in my previous post as follows but it
>>> still will not boot-up.
>>>
>>> These are the settings I have used and the messages I receive:
>>>
>>> 1. BIOS settings:
>>> a. Under Advanced/PCI Config I have enabled "Onboard ATA Device" and
>>> selected "No" for "Onboard ATA Device First".
>>> b. Boot order is Floppy then IDE Drive then DVD-RW then INT18 Device
>>>
>>> 2. When I first boot up I went to CTRL-F and selected "Auto". It set the
>>> new drive to Array 1 / Stripe and it reads as Functional.
>>> The boot-up screen shows the RAID Mode as "1+0 Stripe".
>>>
>>> 3. The boot-up then stops with a warning "Windows could not start
>>> because the following file is missing or corrupt :
>>> "System32/Drivers/ntfs.sys".
>>> Is the PC trying to boot from this new drive even with the BIOS settings
>>> in 1 above?
>>>
>>> 4. I then disconnect the SATA drive and boot up normally under the IDE
>>> drive. Under Device Manager the RAID/SCII drives are correctly installed
>>> and recognized by Windows.
>>>
>>> Any ideas how I can get this drive installed correctly?
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> PeterH
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>