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Old 09-16-2011, 10:02 PM
CliscoCliso
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Default how to see with which stuff the processor core is most occupied


and with which stuff is overburdened and to bridge it on the very sole
things i'm working with this system ?

I0m working in XP professional now and i would like to adjust third
programs as main stuff processor working on, so that all programs i'm
working in are the primary tasks processor-ram- has to occupy with


what could be done in that manner ==?


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Old 09-17-2011, 12:53 AM
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CliscoCliso wrote:
> and with which stuff is overburdened and to bridge it on the very sole
> things i'm working with this system ?
>
> I0m working in XP professional now and i would like to adjust third
> programs as main stuff processor working on, so that all programs i'm
> working in are the primary tasks processor-ram- has to occupy with
>
>
> what could be done in that manner ==?
>


Download Process Explorer, and it will tell you everything you need
to know about your programs, and what they use in terms of resources.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/bb896653

You can use Task Manager as well, to get some useful information
while the programs are running.

Paul

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Old 09-17-2011, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: how to see with which stuff the processor core is most occupied

On 17 ruj, 02:53, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
> CliscoCliso wrote:
> > and with which stuff is overburdened and to bridge it on the very sole
> > things i'm working with this system ?

>
> > I0m working in XP professional now and i would like to adjust third
> > programs as main stuff processor working on, so that all programs i'm
> > working in are the primary tasks processor-ram- has to occupy with

>
> > what could be done in that manner ==?

>
> Download Process Explorer, and it will tell you everything you need
> to know about your programs, and what they use in terms of resources.
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/bb896653
>
> You can use Task Manager as well, to get some useful information
> while the programs are running.
>
> * * Paul



Thanks, i already have a processExplorer engaged turned on,
but it only gives me the information about the processes...
it gives me PID informations, CPU usage, but ok i do have a priority
list to cahnge,
and there is a private bytes list and properties tab with a bunch of
informations.

The question is what to do to change computer bahavings ?

I have a 2.8Ghz/1MB cache P4 cpu in IBM computer with 2x512MB DDR400
old DDR1 ram and it's just a computer for opening documents and
searching in files and eventually going on the internet to see stuff.
I did put this cpu as i intended to fry it over the PLL options, to
clock it somehow...but i doubt it is about the FSB frequency which is
lacking but it is something with the processes, i would say the order
of processes CPU is working on. This order is not as i would put
it(but this is a whole huge domena of programming which is not am
capable to learn in a sec. this is a lifetime of engineering and
learning, a job for a smart programmer i would say that)...

OK, i have a big consuming program an antivirus which is chewing up
something in CoreServiceShell on each computer i have installed this
antivirus. But it's not about this program, it's about the strength o
this cpu which is presumably looking at Gigahertz strength very would
need to be a very stregnthy toy to play with. This machine would need
to process this stuff i'm working on with a klip-klop with two fingers
when you say ..a sec.

I would say a hardware and a little of programs-utilities toys would
be my schema to approach the core, but as i'm a lazy dumb ***, i
really don't see where to start first to solve this issue.

Numerous guys have the same sole problem looking for a solution, they
just want and only want just particular programs and stuff to work
with and that that particularly stuff work superfast. With today
technology and commands which controll the complete system that would
need to be "easy" to do.


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Old 09-17-2011, 02:26 PM
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I saw a an noteook from 2000. working a lot faster than today
notebooks do with their technology.

meaning ragarding low resources programs, ulitlities and stuff like
that...
there was no notebook applications hangings etc.etc. we call that a
little beast of machine.

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Old 09-17-2011, 07:23 PM
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Default Re: how to see with which stuff the processor core is most occupied

CliscoCliso wrote:
> On 17 ruj, 02:53, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
>> CliscoCliso wrote:
>>> and with which stuff is overburdened and to bridge it on the very sole
>>> things i'm working with this system ?
>>> I0m working in XP professional now and i would like to adjust third
>>> programs as main stuff processor working on, so that all programs i'm
>>> working in are the primary tasks processor-ram- has to occupy with
>>> what could be done in that manner ==?

>> Download Process Explorer, and it will tell you everything you need
>> to know about your programs, and what they use in terms of resources.
>>
>> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/bb896653
>>
>> You can use Task Manager as well, to get some useful information
>> while the programs are running.
>>
>> Paul

>
>
> Thanks, i already have a processExplorer engaged turned on,
> but it only gives me the information about the processes...
> it gives me PID informations, CPU usage, but ok i do have a priority
> list to cahnge,
> and there is a private bytes list and properties tab with a bunch of
> informations.
>
> The question is what to do to change computer bahavings ?
>
> I have a 2.8Ghz/1MB cache P4 cpu in IBM computer with 2x512MB DDR400
> old DDR1 ram and it's just a computer for opening documents and
> searching in files and eventually going on the internet to see stuff.
> I did put this cpu as i intended to fry it over the PLL options, to
> clock it somehow...but i doubt it is about the FSB frequency which is
> lacking but it is something with the processes, i would say the order
> of processes CPU is working on. This order is not as i would put
> it(but this is a whole huge domena of programming which is not am
> capable to learn in a sec. this is a lifetime of engineering and
> learning, a job for a smart programmer i would say that)...
>
> OK, i have a big consuming program an antivirus which is chewing up
> something in CoreServiceShell on each computer i have installed this
> antivirus. But it's not about this program, it's about the strength o
> this cpu which is presumably looking at Gigahertz strength very would
> need to be a very stregnthy toy to play with. This machine would need
> to process this stuff i'm working on with a klip-klop with two fingers
> when you say ..a sec.
>
> I would say a hardware and a little of programs-utilities toys would
> be my schema to approach the core, but as i'm a lazy dumb ***, i
> really don't see where to start first to solve this issue.
>
> Numerous guys have the same sole problem looking for a solution, they
> just want and only want just particular programs and stuff to work
> with and that that particularly stuff work superfast. With today
> technology and commands which controll the complete system that would
> need to be "easy" to do.
>


I had a problem yesterday, trying to run Indexing under Windows 7. And
after some research, it appeared that while the Indexing process was running,
the antivirus program was reading all the same files (twice as many
read operations). Because of that kind of behavior, the performance
of a computer can be drastically reduced. I turned off the AV software,
increased the Index process priority, and also made one registry change,
to speed up the process - and it still took about three hours.

Your 2.8GHz/1MB P4 will have Hyperthreading, fooling the OS into thinking
you have two processing cores. That helps when one process is blocked
waiting on a memory access, and Hyperthreading can make the OS seem a
bit more responsive.

If you need to raise the priority of a process, you can do that from
Task Manager. This doesn't help a lot, but if you need every bit of
performance possible, you can try it. Try "Above Normal" or "High" and
see if it helps. If the AV software is interfering, disable the
AV software temporarily until the compute intensive activity is
finished.

http://devilsworkshop.org/files/2007...sk-manager.jpg

Paul

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Old 09-19-2011, 07:27 PM
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>
> If you need to raise the priority of a process, you can do that from
> Task Manager. This doesn't help a lot, but if you need every bit of
> performance possible, you can try it. Try "Above Normal" or "High" and
> see if it helps. If the AV software is interfering, disable the
> AV software temporarily until the compute intensive activity is
> finished.
>
> http://devilsworkshop.org/files/2007...sk-manager.jpg
>
> * * Paul- Sakrij citirani tekst -
>
> - Prikaži citirani tekst -


is this for permanent or just to switch priority scheme on the go till
not restarting computer ???


It's not what i have had in mind, i would be wacko if not trying to
approach computer system on the very reasonable way to adjust it to my
purposes.
What do you suggest which would be the good start point to start
learning how to approach system behavings systematically ?

this approaches over the overclocking aren't what i would do on a
first sight, it has to be the computer way of working which is
composed by the engineers at the factory(at home table)...
That's ok, i do have a lack of knowledge but i'm sure it's not that
complex to comprehend.

i see system changes when you really stick your arss on it and punch
it in the nose on every possible ways which are known to me;
but it is still not satisfactory; on the example i still have to know
more about voltages, capacities, limitations, frankly it has to be
done so that the machine is working at it's best it can when manually
adding routes how to behave.




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Old 09-19-2011, 09:16 PM
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On 19 ruj, 21:27, CliscoCliso <catal...@dr.com> wrote:
> > If you need to raise the priority of a process, you can do that from
> > Task Manager. This doesn't help a lot, but if you need every bit of
> > performance possible, you can try it. Try "Above Normal" or "High" and
> > see if it helps. If the AV software is interfering, disable the
> > AV software temporarily until the compute intensive activity is
> > finished.

>
> >http://devilsworkshop.org/files/2007...sk-manager.jpg

>
> > * * Paul- Sakrij citirani tekst -

>
> > - Prikaži citirani tekst -

>
> is this for permanent or just to switch priority scheme on the go till
> not restarting computer ???
>
> It's not what i have had in mind, i would be wacko if not trying to
> approach computer system on the very reasonable way to adjust it to my
> purposes.
> What do you suggest which would be the good start point to start
> learning how to approach system behavings systematically ?
>
> this approaches over the overclocking aren't what i would do on a
> first sight, it has to be the computer way of working which is
> composed by the engineers at the factory(at home table)...
> That's ok, i do have a lack of knowledge but i'm sure it's not that
> complex to comprehend.
>
> i see system changes when you really stick your arss on it and punch
> it in the nose on every possible ways which are known to me;
> but it is still not satisfactory; on the example i still have to know
> more about voltages, capacities, limitations, frankly it has to be
> done so that the machine is working at it's best it can when manually
> adding routes how to behave.



hey the manufacturers develop their products according OSes today,
they did that allthe time...
its notrhing new on the block.

and viceversa they are working in synergy. Thats understandable,
okydoky.

Q: will litle netbook which has a sticker "designed for xp" "designed
fo win vista"... only work out the best onl with that system built by
tailoring ? or is it non important insomuch as you could put "any"
OS on it so as ubuntu or some other version of win,novell or
whatever ?

ok, drivers are a special part in this i gues ?

practically you could put any 32bit OS on a 32bit hardware system ?


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