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Old 09-17-2011, 01:15 AM
Brian K
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Default ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

OS Windows XPSP3
MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB

Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge

I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
I don't know how long this will last.

I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.

I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.

TIA

Brian

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Old 09-17-2011, 02:53 AM
Paul
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

Brian K wrote:
> OS Windows XPSP3
> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
> On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
> 24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
> Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB
>
> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>
> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
> white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
> was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
> I don't know how long this will last.
>
> I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.
>
> I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.
>
> TIA
>
> Brian


Rather than concentrate immediately on the video card, consider
the system could fail on you.

1) It could be a memory problem. If you have two sticks of memory,
swap the slots they fit into. (Make sure computer is unplugged,
before changing any hardware.) Did the symptoms change ? Perhaps
the memory is bad. A memory tester, may not be able to reach
memory, which is reserved for things like frame buffer for graphics.
Run memtest86+ from memtest.org anyway, in case some other parts of
system memory are failing. Perhaps a DIMM change, will bring the
system back to full strength, without shopping for a new card.

If you have only one DIMM, run memtest86+ and see if any available
memory is throwing errors.

2) It could be an issue with Northbridge operating temperature. If
the heatsink fell of the Northbridge, or if there was a fan on it
and the fan melted, it could be overheating and corrupting things.

In this case, there is no fan, so that's not a problem. It gets
a little "side spill air" from the CPU fan.

http://www.jetway.com.tw/pic/big/K8M8MS.JPG

Verify the push pins are holding the aluminum sink firmly in
place. They're the two "white dots" in the picture, near the Northbridge
aluminum heatsink.

You could also do a general inspection of the motherboard, looking
for electrolytic capacitors (aluminum cylinder with plastic sleeve),
which are bulging or leaking orange/brown fluid. If motherboard damage of that
type is evident, purchasing an AGP card might be the last
thing on your shopping list. You might be in the market for
some kind of "upgrade", in which case, all new issues will
emerge. Many new motherboards have decent onboard graphics,
and no card will be needed. And if a video card was needed,
it would be PCI Express (so an AGP card would not be reusable).

If you've done all your homework, and buying an AGP still seems
a logical option, then get a 6200 as an AGP card.
It would have a bit more performance than the built-in graphics
and not strain things too much for you.

EVGA 512-A8-N405-KR GeForce 6200 512MB 64-bit DDR2 AGP 8X Video Card $40
DVI/VGA, universal AGP keying.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130654

Paul

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Old 09-17-2011, 07:52 AM
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

Brian K wrote:

> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>
> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. ... I need to
> find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X
> mode.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...CE&PageSize=20

They don't carry every AGP video card. I still have a search defined at
eBay looking for an ATI HD 3850 (that's under my max price threshold in
the last 12 hours of an auction).

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Old 10-14-2011, 06:55 AM
Brian K
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

On 9/16/2011 9:15 PM, Brian K wrote:
> OS Windows XPSP3
> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
> On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
> 24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
> Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB
>
> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>
> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
> white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
> was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
> I don't know how long this will last.
>
> I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.
>
> I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.
>
> TIA
>
> Brian


Thanks to all who replied. I decided since the system was more then 6
years old...the best thing to do was to retire it. I did a cost analysis
on building a new 64 bit system and it was cheaper to buy one at Best Buy.

Again thanks for all the advice.

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Old 10-14-2011, 08:46 AM
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

Brian K wrote:

> On 9/16/2011 9:15 PM, Brian K wrote:
>> OS Windows XPSP3
>> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
>> On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
>> 24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
>> Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB
>>
>> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>>
>> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
>> white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
>> was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
>> I don't know how long this will last.
>>
>> I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
>> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.
>>
>> I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Brian

>
> Thanks to all who replied. I decided since the system was more then 6
> years old...the best thing to do was to retire it. I did a cost analysis
> on building a new 64 bit system and it was cheaper to buy one at Best Buy.
>
> Again thanks for all the advice.


Depends if you only match on specs. I prefer to build my own which
often ends up being the same or a little bit more than a pre-built
bought at some retail/e-tail store because I put much better quality
components in the machine. I trade my time for their profit margin to
get better parts in my machine. Makes for far less maintenance over the
long haul.

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Old 10-14-2011, 09:01 AM
terryc
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

Brian K wrote:
> On 9/16/2011 9:15 PM, Brian K wrote:
>> OS Windows XPSP3
>> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu


If that is an MSI mobo, then you have done well to get six years from them.

> Thanks to all who replied. I decided since the system was more then 6
> years old...


When I started selling them, quite a customers returned for replacements
after 3 years, so I stopped selling hem. They were all partially failing
in one module or another.

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Old 10-14-2011, 12:57 PM
Rob
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

On 14/10/2011 09:46, VanguardLH wrote:
> Brian K wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2011 9:15 PM, Brian K wrote:
>>> OS Windows XPSP3
>>> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
>>> On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
>>> 24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
>>> Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB
>>>
>>> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>>>
>>> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
>>> white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
>>> was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
>>> I don't know how long this will last.
>>>
>>> I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
>>> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.
>>>
>>> I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Brian

>>
>> Thanks to all who replied. I decided since the system was more then 6
>> years old...the best thing to do was to retire it. I did a cost analysis
>> on building a new 64 bit system and it was cheaper to buy one at Best Buy.
>>
>> Again thanks for all the advice.

>
> Depends if you only match on specs. I prefer to build my own which
> often ends up being the same or a little bit more than a pre-built
> bought at some retail/e-tail store because I put much better quality
> components in the machine. I trade my time for their profit margin to
> get better parts in my machine. Makes for far less maintenance over the
> long haul.

+1
--
Rob

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Old 10-14-2011, 02:31 PM
Grinder
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Default Re: ISO Legacy 8X AGP Card

On 10/14/2011 3:46 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
> Brian K wrote:
>
>> On 9/16/2011 9:15 PM, Brian K wrote:
>>> OS Windows XPSP3
>>> MB K8M8MS for Socket 754 Athlon64 cpu
>>> On board VGA 3D Accelerator Ultra-AGPII 2 GB Bandwidth
>>> 24-bit true color RAMDAC upto 300 Mhz pixel clock
>>> Programmable frame buffer sized from 16 MB to 64 MB
>>>
>>> Chipset: VIA K8M800 North Bridge VIA VT8237 South Bridge
>>>
>>> I think that my on board graphics is starting to go. Suddenly I got a
>>> white screen with rainbow Venetian blinds. After going into Safe Mode I
>>> was able to switch the Theme to Windows Classic. Now I have a screen but
>>> I don't know how long this will last.
>>>
>>> I need to find a resource for an AGP 8X card. The expansion slot in the
>>> motherboard supports an AGP x1 support AGP 2.0 and AGP 3.0 for 4X/8X mode.
>>>
>>> I live in the USA so I will need one compatible with US standards.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>>
>>> Brian

>>
>> Thanks to all who replied. I decided since the system was more then 6
>> years old...the best thing to do was to retire it. I did a cost analysis
>> on building a new 64 bit system and it was cheaper to buy one at Best Buy.
>>
>> Again thanks for all the advice.

>
> Depends if you only match on specs. I prefer to build my own which
> often ends up being the same or a little bit more than a pre-built
> bought at some retail/e-tail store because I put much better quality
> components in the machine. I trade my time for their profit margin to
> get better parts in my machine. Makes for far less maintenance over the
> long haul.


I'll third this sentiment, and also point out that you will in all
likelyhood end up with better warranties that buying of the shelf. Big
boxers generally offer a 1-year warranty, while many components have 3
year warranties or more.


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