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Old 09-11-2006, 12:13 PM
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Default Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

Averatec laptop backlight turns off after random lengths of time. Can still
see the dim images on the screen that behave normally to mouse inputs, so the
LCD is still alive.

I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
to turn off?

I Googled for this but nothing definitive came up.

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Old 09-11-2006, 03:35 PM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

BTW, running Windows XP Pro.

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Old 09-11-2006, 03:43 PM
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DaveC wrote:
> I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
> any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
> to turn off?


Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?


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Old 09-11-2006, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

Thus spake zwsdotcom@gmail.com:

> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?


Model: 3200
Tilting the screen hinges back and forth does not start or stop the
phenomenon.

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Old 09-11-2006, 07:32 PM
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> Model: 3200

Correction: Model 3280
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Old 09-11-2006, 10:04 PM
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Thus spake zwsdotcom@gmail.com:

> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?


Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?

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Old 09-12-2006, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

More likely the CCFL tubes themselves, they are like a flouresecent
tube without the heater electrodes at the ends. A sign is the they
either start to flicker and the 'whites' become tinted in the
picture.

But the dc-dc inverter that steps the 12V supply up to around 1,800V
(1.8KV) could also be the cause but I'd go for the tubes first.

Have a peep here -: How to replace the backlight
http://www.dnd.utwente.nl/~grit/backlight/ccft.html Clicking the link
will open it in a new window.

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Old 09-12-2006, 01:00 AM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 00:17:49 -0000, no@spam.invalid (Davy)
wrote:

>More likely the CCFL tubes themselves, they are like a flouresecent
>tube without the heater electrodes at the ends. A sign is the they
>either start to flicker and the 'whites' become tinted in the
>picture.
>
>But the dc-dc inverter that steps the 12V supply up to around 1,800V
>(1.8KV) could also be the cause but I'd go for the tubes first.
>
>Have a peep here -: How to replace the backlight
>http://www.dnd.utwente.nl/~grit/backlight/ccft.html Clicking the link
>will open it in a new window.
>
>Davy



Yes the CCFL tubes can fail, but they won't generally
exhibit the symptom the OP described if/when they do, to
work when turned on then fail outright, but then work again
later.

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Old 09-12-2006, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed to
be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.
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>
>> Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
>> be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?

>
> Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?
>
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Old 09-12-2006, 08:44 AM
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DaveC wrote:

> Averatec laptop backlight turns off after random lengths of time. Can still
> see the dim images on the screen that behave normally to mouse inputs, so the
> LCD is still alive.
>
> I presume that the high-voltage PCB that runs the bulb is going bad. Is there
> any chance that this is a virus or software bug that is causing the backlight
> to turn off?
>
> I Googled for this but nothing definitive came up.
>
> Thanks,


Loose connection / bad joint somewhere. Prodding about with an
insulated tool should narrow it down.

NT


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Old 09-12-2006, 11:57 AM
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Thus spake shockwa:

> I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
> wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
> turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed to
> be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.


What model is your laptop?

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Old 09-12-2006, 12:03 PM
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DaveC wrote:

> > Not really. But it need not be the inverter at fault, it could easily
> > be a cabling issue. What model Averatec is this?

>
> Is the inverter circuit on the motherboard or is it on a separate PCB?


The inverter is always on a separate PCB in the upper half of the
laptop, because the HV wires need to be as short as possible (they
radiate EM noise, and they're also lossy).

Apart from the backlight switch issue mentioned by another poster, you
might have a heat issue on the inverter. I'd open up the screen half of
the laptop and let it run until it fails, then _carefully_ squirt
freeze spray on the inverter to locate the bad component.


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Old 09-12-2006, 09:18 PM
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"DaveC" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Thus spake shockwa:
>
>> I was having an issue with a new LCD and inverter. The backlight still
>> wasnt functioning. Then someone told me about the "toggle switch" that
>> turns the backlight on or off when the lid is opened and closed. Supposed
>> to
>> be near the keyboard. Maybe it has a short or isn't functioning.

>
> What model is your laptop?
>
> Thanks,
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It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find the
lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges, keyboard,
inverter, etc. Well thats my luck. See if you can find it with this pic I
took. http://home.pacbell.net/shockwa/images/laptop.jpg



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Old 09-12-2006, 10:38 PM
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shockwa wrote:

> It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find the
> lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges, keyboard,
> inverter, etc.


What makes you think it has one? Some laptops are magnetically
activated and there is no exposed switch.

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Old 09-13-2006, 12:02 AM
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"Ian Singer" <iansinger@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> shockwa wrote:
>
>> It's a Fujitsu Lifebook S6210. Now my problem is I can't seem to find
>> the lid close(pin)switch. I've looked everywhere near the hinges,
>> keyboard, inverter, etc.

>
> What makes you think it has one? Some laptops are magnetically activated
> and there is no exposed switch.
> Ian Singer

=========================================>
ok well I guess I wasn't specific enough. Where is the lid close magnetic
thingie? or
could it somehow be stuck in the close position because of removing the LCD.
I was aware it could be a magnetic switch, but where is
it on this model or one similar?
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Old 09-13-2006, 02:28 AM
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shockwa wrote:

> ok well I guess I wasn't specific enough. Where is the lid close magnetic
> thingie? or
> could it somehow be stuck in the close position because of removing the LCD.
> I was aware it could be a magnetic switch, but where is
> it on this model or one similar?


Cant tell you. You would need a parts manual. On a Toshiba its just to
the right of the left hinge and you can activate it with the lid upen by
moving a magnet acoss the lid on the ouside (side opposide screen).

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Old 09-13-2006, 08:31 PM
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"Ian Singer" <iansinger@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> shockwa wrote:
>
>> ok well I guess I wasn't specific enough. Where is the lid close
>> magnetic thingie? or
>> could it somehow be stuck in the close position because of removing the
>> LCD. I was aware it could be a magnetic switch, but where is
>> it on this model or one similar?

>
> Cant tell you. You would need a parts manual. On a Toshiba its just to the
> right of the left hinge and you can activate it with the lid upen by
> moving a magnet acoss the lid on the ouside (side opposide screen).
>
> Ian Singer
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I guess I could always ask Fujitsu support what type of switch it is either
a pin or magnetic and where it might be located.. Wonder if they disclose
that type of information?



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Old 09-14-2006, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: Laptop backlight quitting intermittently

hello.

guess the only prob. on your pc is the connection of the ballast
to bulb,
try to check if it is properly suitted, and if not well guess that
its time for you to change the bulb or your backlight,

that's it.

good kuck


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Old 06-21-2007, 01:39 AM
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Default Same lcd backlight/inverter issue with my Averatec 3260

Found this post after google-ing for Averatec LCD issues. I have the same problem as the Original Poster. After anywhere from 10 seconds to an hour or more of use, the backlight (I am guessing) will die out. You can faintly still see an image on the screen. Did anyone find out if it was the backlight, or inverter, or a heat issue?

I am about to just remove the whole LCD screen upper half and turn this into a home only mini PC using an external monitor...

Thanks in advance for any tips.
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Old 06-21-2007, 07:40 AM
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On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 21:39:42 -0400, dontlikeaveratec
<dontlikeaveratec.2sikgi@no-mx.wirelessforums.org> wrote:

>
>Found this post after google-ing for Averatec LCD issues. I have the
>same problem as the Original Poster. After anywhere from 10 seconds to
>an hour or more of use, the backlight (I am guessing) will die out. You
>can faintly still see an image on the screen. Did anyone find out if it
>was the backlight, or inverter, or a heat issue?
>
>I am about to just remove the whole LCD screen upper half and turn this
>into a home only mini PC using an external monitor...
>
>Thanks in advance for any tips.



It's typically a CCFl driver board problem.

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