My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
$50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
part of the cartridge.)
I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
not the ink is less expensive to buy.
Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
On 7/31/2011 7:46 PM, John Corliss wrote:
> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you can
> see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've noticed
> about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very expensive. I
> would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the $50-$140 price range
> which gives the best printout and is the least expensive with consumables
> (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a part of the cartridge.)
>
> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>
> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed OR
> can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>
> TIA
>
Google for 'inkjet cost-per-page' and take your choice. I've heard that
Kodak printers have relatively reasonable consumables but can't say from
experience.
On Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:46:38 -0700, John Corliss <q34wsk20@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
>$50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>part of the cartridge.)
>
>I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>
>Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>
Unless you need to print in color, buy a laser printer. I bought a
Canon that does color scanning for 135 bucks. It even has a separate
one at a time envelope feeder.
On 07/31/2011 07:46 PM, John Corliss wrote:
> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
> part of the cartridge.)
>
> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>
> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>
> TIA
>
In your price range:
I have a Kodak 5250 but its an 'all in one' including WIFI reception (it
doesn't distribute WIFI itself its just capable of receiving print jobs
from laptops relayed via your home WIFI setup). In comparison to other
brands ink for it is very reasonable.
Just don't use the 'all in one' features if you don't need them. For
example I don't know if the scanning feature works I have never had a
need for it. The flatbed copier works well though and is handy to have
at home.
This may not be important to you but Linux has a driver for it so you
aren't 'stuck' with Windows.
John Corliss wrote:
> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer
Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
*non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
require.
TIA.
> within the
> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
> part of the cartridge.)
>
> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>
> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>
> TIA
"John Corliss" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> within the
>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>> part of the cartridge.)
.. . .
> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color and
> cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
> require.
You are likely to find most or all inkjets nowadays have a
scanning function, like it or not.
Reliable 3d party ink cartridges may be your most useful guide.
I bought Brother 330 and 540 multifunction printers for about
$60 each (discounted when discontinued.) Both use LC51
cartridges and print well with carts. by other manufacturers.
--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)
On 08/01/2011 06:24 AM, John Corliss wrote:
> John Corliss wrote:
>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer
>
> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
> and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
> require.
>
> TIA.
>
>> within the
>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>> part of the cartridge.)
>>
>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>
>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>
>> TIA
>
Its unlikely you will find what you want. Print only inkjets are pretty
much given away because they are junk and the profit is in the ink.
Kodak as I said earlier is the most economical inkjet as far as consumables.
Easy to Refill With Simple Know How
Pros: This printer does a decent job of everyday printing and good quality
photo work. What makes it more unique to the many other printers around is
that it's one of the few left that will allow use of spongeless- see through
cartridges and their very easy refilling at the cost of about
$1.25/cartridge along with a chip resetter that is easily obtainable.
Additionally, if one wishes to refill the OEM cartridges that come with the
printer and use bulk ink there is a cheap kit to allow refilling sold by www.inksupply.com , which they developed to do just that. It is unfortunate
that every major printer company has made it difficult to recycle cartridges
by refilling and are adding tons of plastic to the landfills, wasting
resources by necessitating new cartridges to be made and saddling the high
cost of printing onto the consumer. The C88+ and a few other Epsons that use
this particular size cartridge make it viable to recycle, save money and
cheap for the consumer to run a printer.
Cons: The cartridges use chips, which is Epson's way impediment to allowing
the consumer to refill a cartridge. Fortunately a chip resetter easily
circumvents that annoyance.
Other Thoughts: Although I am hopeful that Newegg will publish this I am
dubious that it will be listed on the reviews as it knocks the status quo of
how printer manufacturers make their profit. Still, I think it's worth
attempting to make a point here on behalf of the environment and the
consumer when it's the right thing to do and business has gone too far in
the other direction
--
Jan Alter bearpuf@verizon.net
"John" <john@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:fawZp.18781$X54.12673@news.usenetserver.com.. .
> On 08/01/2011 06:24 AM, John Corliss wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>>> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>>> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer
>>
>> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
>> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
>> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
>> and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
>> require.
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>> within the
>>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>>> part of the cartridge.)
>>>
>>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>>> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>>> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>>> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>
> Its unlikely you will find what you want. Print only inkjets are pretty
> much given away because they are junk and the profit is in the ink. Kodak
> as I said earlier is the most economical inkjet as far as consumables.
>
> John
>
Hi,
I wrote this review for Newegg.com for an Epson C88+ that is still
widely available several years ago They still have it for sale for about $90
.. It's probably the cheapest single function inkjet to run these days if you
are OK to refill your own cartridges.
Easy to Refill With Simple Know How
Pros: This printer does a decent job of everyday printing and good quality
photo work. What makes it more unique to the many other printers around is
that it's one of the few left that will allow use of spongeless- see through
cartridges and their very easy refilling at the cost of about
$1.25/cartridge along with a chip resetter that is easily obtainable.
Additionally, if one wishes to refill the OEM cartridges that come with the
printer and use bulk ink there is a cheap kit to allow refilling sold by www.inksupply.com , which they developed to do just that. It is unfortunate
that every major printer company has made it difficult to recycle cartridges
by refilling and are adding tons of plastic to the landfills, wasting
resources by necessitating new cartridges to be made and saddling the high
cost of printing onto the consumer. The C88+ and a few other Epsons that use
this particular size cartridge make it viable to recycle, save money and
cheap for the consumer to run a printer.
Cons: The cartridges use chips, which is Epson's way impediment to allowing
the consumer to refill a cartridge. Fortunately a chip resetter easily
circumvents that annoyance.
Other Thoughts: Although I am hopeful that Newegg will publish this I am
dubious that it will be listed on the reviews as it knocks the status quo of
how printer manufacturers make their profit. Still, I think it's worth
attempting to make a point here on behalf of the environment and the
consumer when it's the right thing to do and business has gone too far in
the other direction
On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 03:24:28 -0700, John Corliss <q34wsk20@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
>*non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
>FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
>and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
>require.
Our old Hp printer died last week, so I just went through this
decision process. We (wife and I) also have two scanners and
need another one like a hole in the head. But I gradually homed
in on a Hp 2050 deskjet "all in one" and purchased one from our
local Walmart for $39 plus tax (last Friday). Actually, I'm pleased
with the scanner function since it's far easier to use (and does a
beautiful job) than the old scanners we have. I'm also pleased with
the peformance and options of its printer. It's better than my old Hp
that cost me $100 several years back. The black-only-ink-saving-
high-speed option is very fast for plain text printing.
It comes with both ink cartidges (so just buy a new printer when you
run out of ink :)) but lacks the USB cable. The #61 cartridges are
much cheaper than the cartridges for my old dead printer. It doesn't
have wireless, BTW.
Don Phillipson wrote:
> "John Corliss"<q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zpSdnSzZ8OtA46vTnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@posted.ccoun trynet...
>
>>> within the
>>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>>> part of the cartridge.)
> . . .
>> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
>> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
>> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color and
>> cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
>> require.
>
> You are likely to find most or all inkjets nowadays have a
> scanning function, like it or not.
I disagree. There are still plenty of personal printers available which
are not all-in-one:
> Reliable 3d party ink cartridges may be your most useful guide.
> I bought Brother 330 and 540 multifunction printers for about
> $60 each (discounted when discontinued.) Both use LC51
> cartridges and print well with carts. by other manufacturers.
I've owned a Brother laser printer in the past and have also heard good
things about newer Brother products.
However, the reason I don't want a multifunction printer is because I
have an excellent Canon scanner which I am very pleased with. I don't
want to have two scanners attacked to my computer and have to install
all the necessary garbage that comes with most all-in-ones.
John wrote:
> On 08/01/2011 06:24 AM, John Corliss wrote:
>> John Corliss wrote:
>>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>>> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>>> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer
>>
>> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
>> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
>> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
>> and cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
>> require.
>>
>> TIA.
>>
>>> within the
>>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>>> part of the cartridge.)
>>>
>>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>>> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>>> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>>
>>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>>> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>>
>>> TIA
>>
>
> Its unlikely you will find what you want.
Please see my reply to Don Phillipson.
> Print only inkjets are pretty
> much given away because they are junk and the profit is in the ink.
> Kodak as I said earlier is the most economical inkjet as far as
> consumables.
Yes, I've been looking at them too. However, I've heard that they're not
as economical ink-wise as they claim.
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John Corliss wrote:
> Don Phillipson wrote:
>> "John Corliss"<q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:zpSdnSzZ8OtA46vTnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@posted.ccoun trynet...
>>
>>>> within the
>>>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>>>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>>>> part of the cartridge.)
>> . . .
>>> Please note that I very specifically asked for info about a
>>> *non-all-in-one* printer. I do NOT need another scanner, I do NOT need a
>>> FAX, I only want a printer. Also, I want to be able to print in color
>>> and
>>> cannot afford the expensive color drums which color laser printers
>>> require.
>>
>> You are likely to find most or all inkjets nowadays have a
>> scanning function, like it or not.
>
> I disagree. There are still plenty of personal printers available which
> are not all-in-one:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&name=Personal
>
>
> http://www.officedepot.com/a/browse/...6rIo:13ddq0tfm
>
>
> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati..._652_6458_6458
>
>
>> Reliable 3d party ink cartridges may be your most useful guide.
>> I bought Brother 330 and 540 multifunction printers for about
>> $60 each (discounted when discontinued.) Both use LC51
>> cartridges and print well with carts. by other manufacturers.
>
> I've owned a Brother laser printer in the past and have also heard good
> things about newer Brother products.
>
> However, the reason I don't want a multifunction printer is because I
> have an excellent Canon scanner which I am very pleased with. I don't
> want to have two scanners attacked
Eh... make that "attached", not attacked.
> to my computer and have to install
> all the necessary garbage that comes with most all-in-ones.
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
--
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spy, time-limited, trial or web wares OR warez for me, please.
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monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.
Because of Googlespam, I block almost everything from Google Groups. I
also block as much as possible from anonymous remailers, feeds and other
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alt.net [Altopia]
anonymous (anything with that in the Path header)
dizum.com
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"John Corliss" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you can
> see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
> part of the cartridge.)
>
> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>
> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed OR
> can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>
> TIA
>
> --
> John Corliss
John, I bought a Canon Pixma i4500 series a couple years ago, and I swear by
this thing. The ink may not meet your requirements as it has 5 cartridges,
but they don't run out at the same time and are readily available locally (a
big thing for me since I live in a rural area). Print quality is
phenomenal, and when I want to print out a picture (not often), I get
beautiful copies. I bought it mainly because school pictures are so darn
expensive nowadays and I was able to make my own, but it's paid for itself
over and over. I also have a 3-in-1 that I use for scanning, but it has no
ink in it.
"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> John Corliss <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>> noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>> expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the
>> $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the least
>> expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a
>> part of the cartridge.)
>>
>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>
>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>
>> TIA
>
> I would say look for one that you can use 3rd party ink, and I would say
> to go with the one has *refillable* ink cartridge available.
>
> Google for the word "refillable ink cartridge" to have some idea what it
> looks like, then find the model has refillable ink cartridge available.
I would warn anyone against using refillable ink. I've had terrible results
from 2 different printers when using refillable ink. The problem is that the
printer manufacturers spend millions developing the ink. The printers are
very sensitive and the size of ink squirted out is measured in picometres,
so using refillable ink gives poor colour representation and clogs the print
heads (in my experience). Thats with an Epson and an HP inkjet printer.
> Cartridges, it may cost around $20-25 for 6 refillable catridges. Ink, it
> costs around $20-25 for 6 100ml ink bottles. The refillable catridge
> doesn't have spronge so the ink will never dry out, so you can refill for
> alomost forver (the old generation with spronge may work for around 3-4
> refills).
>
> If you want the cartridge with print head, then I would say go for HP
> (some others do but I think HP is good enough).
On 7/31/2011 7:19 PM, John McGaw wrote:
> On 7/31/2011 7:46 PM, John Corliss wrote:
>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you can
>> see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What I've
>> noticed
>> about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be very
>> expensive. I
>> would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within the $50-$140 price
>> range
>> which gives the best printout and is the least expensive with consumables
>> (print cartridges AND print heads, if not a part of the cartridge.)
>>
>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but they
>> never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part, whether or
>> not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>
>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed OR
>> can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>
> Google for 'inkjet cost-per-page' and take your choice. I've heard that
> Kodak printers have relatively reasonable consumables but can't say from
> experience.
I would still stay away from any Lexmark printers until they reverse
their latest firmware update that blocks all 3rd party print cartridges
from being used.
They hide this in their printer update program and don't disclose the
3rd party cartridge blocking until the update has already updated your
printers firmware. At present there is no method of reversing the
"update" after it is installed into the printer.
Here is just one of the multitude of links describing Lexmark's method
of locking people into using just their own brand of cartridges and at
the price they choose to charge you.
Where I live many corporate offices have removed Lexmark products from
their approved list of vendors. Many are actively replacing Lexmark
printers with other brands due to the cost of being locked into using
only Lexmark brand printer cartridges once someone is tricked into
upgrading the firmware with the "Lexmark brand or die" firmware update.
GlowingBlueMist wrote:
> (snip)
> I would still stay away from any Lexmark printers until they reverse
> their latest firmware update that blocks all 3rd party print cartridges
> from being used.
>
> They hide this in their printer update program and don't disclose the
> 3rd party cartridge blocking until the update has already updated your
> printers firmware. At present there is no method of reversing the
> "update" after it is installed into the printer.
>
> Here is just one of the multitude of links describing Lexmark's method
> of locking people into using just their own brand of cartridges and at
> the price they choose to charge you.
>
> http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/inkje...rd-party-carts
>
>
> Where I live many corporate offices have removed Lexmark products from
> their approved list of vendors. Many are actively replacing Lexmark
> printers with other brands due to the cost of being locked into using
> only Lexmark brand printer cartridges once someone is tricked into
> upgrading the firmware with the "Lexmark brand or die" firmware update.
I will add my two cents. I have been a long time loyal HP customer but recentlproblems with printer heads. Research turned me on to Brother multi function. Pay more initially but probably much cheaper in the end to get away from ink jet.
Thip wrote:
> "John Corliss" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:xr6dnahK1Jj9dKjTnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@posted.ccoun trynet...
>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What
>> I've noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be
>> very expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within
>> the $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the
>> least expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if
>> not a part of the cartridge.)
You can greatly reduce the cost by buying the ink and filling it into
the cartridges after they are exhausted. Places like Tesco sometimes
sells the ink at great prices.
>> I've looked a several websites which have reviews of printers, but
>> they never discuss the cost per page anymore or for the most part,
>> whether or not the ink is less expensive to buy.
>>
>> Does anybody know of a good website where inkjet printers are reviewed
>> OR can anybody recommend a good, current printer?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> --
>> John Corliss
>
> John, I bought a Canon Pixma i4500 series a couple years ago, and I
> swear by this thing. The ink may not meet your requirements as it has 5
> cartridges, but they don't run out at the same time and are readily
> available locally (a big thing for me since I live in a rural area).
> Print quality is phenomenal, and when I want to print out a picture (not
> often), I get beautiful copies. I bought it mainly because school
> pictures are so darn expensive nowadays and I was able to make my own,
> but it's paid for itself over and over. I also have a 3-in-1 that I use
> for scanning, but it has no ink in it.
..... and I have a Canon Pixma MP 170 and it is the best one I have ever
had. It is almost 6 years old now and still printing and scanning.
Joel wrote:
> Seum <Seum@nowhere.con> wrote:
>
>> Thip wrote:
>>> "John Corliss" <q34wsk20@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:xr6dnahK1Jj9dKjTnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@posted.ccoun trynet...
>>>> My venerable HP855c is finally starting to show some problems. As you
>>>> can see, it's been a long time since I shopped for a printer. What
>>>> I've noticed about newer printers is that replacing cartridges can be
>>>> very expensive. I would like to find a non-all-in-one printer within
>>>> the $50-$140 price range which gives the best printout and is the
>>>> least expensive with consumables (print cartridges AND print heads, if
>>>> not a part of the cartridge.)
>> You can greatly reduce the cost by buying the ink and filling it into
>> the cartridges after they are exhausted. Places like Tesco sometimes
>> sells the ink at great prices.
>
> If you won't mind using refill ink, then I suggest to buy the *refillable*
> in cartridge and refill yourself. Cuz
>
> 1. If you buy the *already* refilled cartridge then you get the 3rd party
> ink and either 3rd party or remanufactured catridge. The type has spronge
> inside.
>
> You pay more (much less than OEM but still more than refilling your own)
>
> 2. The *refillable* in cartridge costs around $20 for 6 catridges, it
> doesn't have spronge and auto-reset chip so you can keep refilling them for
> life (or many years)
>
> It doesn't have spronge so there won't be any air/bubble issue, it will
> hold much more ink, and all you have to do is getting ink into the catridge.
> You can use vacuuming, needle whatever you can fill the catridge. Or it's
> pretty simple just like your pouring water into a glass.
>
> IOW, with the cartridge with spronge you will have to slowly pump ink into
> it to avoid air bubble, you will have to let it set for hour(s), doing
> cleaning, and can only be able to refill 3-4 times max then you have to buy
> a new set.
>
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