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Old 11-25-2006, 07:26 PM
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Default Multi Syn LCD Monitors ?

Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for
me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience
noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct what options do
I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.

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Old 11-25-2006, 07:57 PM
Mitch Crane
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L <lc@xxxjoimail.com> wrote in
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> Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
> monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right
> for me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
> 1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will
> experience noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct
> what options do I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any
> words of wisdom.


Buy a 15" LCD? You don't say what size CRT monitor you had, but I suspect
that you'll find that a 19" LCD at 1024x768 will be a lot easier on the
eyes than your CRT was at 1024x768.

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Old 11-25-2006, 08:36 PM
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Default Re: Multi Syn LCD Monitors ?

On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 19:26:18 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
wrote:

>Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
>monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for
>me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
>1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience
>noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct what options do
>I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.



You could get a 15" but that's so small by today's
standards.

I feel you would get used to the higher resolution and
appreciate it. More modern software seems to waste more
screen space too, it could be hard to work with only
1024x768 pretty soon.

17 and 19" monitors both (except widescreen) have 1280x1024
native resolution. I suggest the 19" because it will make
the transistion to 1280x1024 easier because the dot pitch is
higher not to mention it being nicer to have the whole
display larger.

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Old 11-25-2006, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: Multi Syn LCD Monitors ?

L wrote:

> Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
> monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for
> me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
> 1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience
> noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct what options
> do I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.


Sorry but here is additional information. My current monitor is 19"
color NEC and supports up to 1600X1200 pixels but as I stated it seems
to my eyes that 1024X768 is right for me. I also noticed that NEC has
a MultiSync LCD monitor but I wonder if various resolution are all
equal in quality.

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Old 11-25-2006, 10:39 PM
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:35:36 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
wrote:

>L wrote:
>
>> Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
>> monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for
>> me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
>> 1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience
>> noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct what options
>> do I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.

>
>Sorry but here is additional information. My current monitor is 19"
>color NEC and supports up to 1600X1200 pixels but as I stated it seems
>to my eyes that 1024X768 is right for me. I also noticed that NEC has
>a MultiSync LCD monitor but I wonder if various resolution are all
>equal in quality.



Keep in mind that with a CRT, all else being equal (like
analog cable and refresh rate, video card, etc) when you go
up in resolution the output gets fuzzier. With LCD, it
remains crisp so long as you keep the native resolution.

It is far far easier to use 1600x1200 with DVI interface on
a ~ 20" LCD than 1600x1200 on a 19" LCD, but not because the
LCD is a mere 1" larger.

There would still be a little adjusting to do for the higher
resolution, but IMO, 1280x1024 is the best alternative you
have in a 19" LCD... unless you want to go widescreen...
have you been to any stores to try out a few LCD? That
would be the best course at this point.

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Old 11-25-2006, 11:10 PM
L
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kony wrote:

>On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:35:36 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>L wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The
>>>monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for
>>>me. While looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical
>>>1280X1024. As I understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience
>>>noticeable loss in display quality. If that is correct what options
>>>do I have to get 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.
>>>
>>>

>>Sorry but here is additional information. My current monitor is 19"
>>color NEC and supports up to 1600X1200 pixels but as I stated it seems
>>to my eyes that 1024X768 is right for me. I also noticed that NEC has
>>a MultiSync LCD monitor but I wonder if various resolution are all
>>equal in quality.
>>
>>

>
>
>Keep in mind that with a CRT, all else being equal (like
>analog cable and refresh rate, video card, etc) when you go
>up in resolution the output gets fuzzier. With LCD, it
>remains crisp so long as you keep the native resolution.
>
>It is far far easier to use 1600x1200 with DVI interface on
>a ~ 20" LCD than 1600x1200 on a 19" LCD, but not because the
>LCD is a mere 1" larger.
>
>There would still be a little adjusting to do for the higher
>resolution, but IMO, 1280x1024 is the best alternative you
>have in a 19" LCD... unless you want to go widescreen...
>have you been to any stores to try out a few LCD? That
>would be the best course at this point.
>
>

Couple of questions. If I select any resolution other then native will
the picture quality degree..not sure if it very small or larger. I went
to two stores but the problem is went you want to change resolution its
to hard for them to do. Everything seems to be wired for the BEST which
is understandable from their perspective. I did get a chance to see
wide (9X16) verse normal ?. Clearly some distortion was visible on the
wide display.

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Old 11-25-2006, 11:11 PM
Rod Speed
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kony <spam@spam.com> wrote
> L <lc@xxxjoimail.com> wrote
>> L wrote


>>> Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT).
>>> The monitor has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That
>>> seems right for me. While looking for LCD monitors native
>>> resolution is typical 1280X1024. As I understand it if I run
>>> at 1024DX780 I will experience noticeable loss in display
>>> quality. If that is correct what options do I have to get
>>> 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.


>> Sorry but here is additional information. My current monitor is 19"
>> color NEC and supports up to 1600X1200 pixels but as I stated it
>> seems to my eyes that 1024X768 is right for me. I also noticed
>> that NEC has a MultiSync LCD monitor but I wonder if various
>> resolution are all equal in quality.


> Keep in mind that with a CRT, all else being equal (like
> analog cable and refresh rate, video card, etc) when you
> go up in resolution the output gets fuzzier. With LCD, it
> remains crisp so long as you keep the native resolution.


Most are actually talking about the size of the fonts when
they say they prefer a lower resolution than is possible
with a decent CRT like that one.

> It is far far easier to use 1600x1200 with DVI interface
> on a ~ 20" LCD than 1600x1200 on a 19" LCD, but not
> because the LCD is a mere 1" larger.


> There would still be a little adjusting to do for the higher
> resolution, but IMO, 1280x1024 is the best alternative you
> have in a 19" LCD... unless you want to go widescreen...
> have you been to any stores to try out a few LCD? That
> would be the best course at this point.




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Old 11-26-2006, 12:06 AM
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Default Re: Multi Syn LCD Monitors ?

Sorry, but ALL standard 17" and 19" LCD monitors use the industry standard
Native Resolution of 1280 x 1028.

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> Looking for replacement monitor for MultiSync NEC 950 (CRT). The monitor
> has been great. I typical use 1024 X768. That seems right for me. While
> looking for LCD monitors native resolution is typical 1280X1024. As I
> understand it if I run at 1024DX780 I will experience noticeable loss in
> display quality. If that is correct what options do I have to get
> 1024X768. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.




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Old 11-26-2006, 01:42 AM
kony
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On Sat, 25 Nov 2006 23:10:59 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
wrote:


>Couple of questions. If I select any resolution other then native will
>the picture quality degree..not sure if it very small or larger.


Yes, it will degrade noticably, but whether YOU find that
too much of a degradation we can't assume... I would advise
you to assume you would use it at the native resolution most
of the time, only switching to non-native for a special
purpose. 1280 x 1024 is not that much higher than 1024x768,
IMO you would get used to it quickly enough.


>I went
>to two stores but the problem is went you want to change resolution its
>to hard for them to do. Everything seems to be wired for the BEST which
>is understandable from their perspective. I did get a chance to see
>wide (9X16) verse normal ?. Clearly some distortion was visible on the
>wide display.


??

Wide shouldn't be distorted at native resolution.

Why wouldn't you want your new monitor "wired for BEST" as
you put it?

If you really really only want 1024 x 768, or at least as
close to that as you can get, look around for some larger
LCD TV sets as any good sized monitor has a higher native
resolution than that. Of course the TV set will be far more
expensive, usually, and if it gets so big it doesn't all fit
within your field of vision that is yet another problem.


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Old 11-26-2006, 03:25 PM
L
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DaveW wrote:

>Sorry, but ALL standard 17" and 19" LCD monitors use the industry standard
>Native Resolution of 1280 x 1028.
>
>

Well based upon Dave W. input (and yes I checked a number of manfac )
it appears I am stuck with 1280X1024 if I go with LCD. I have reset my
current monitor to 1280X1024 to see how I will adjust. I also measured
the diagonal distance of my GLASS monitor and it really is 17.5 inches
viewable. So if I go with 19" LCD I do get a small break. Other issue
I am trying to assess is what happens when I edit a photo, now I use the
highest resolution I can get from my CRT, but not sure what that means
if I use LCD for editing.

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Old 11-26-2006, 03:33 PM
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DaveW wrote:

>Sorry, but ALL standard 17" and 19" LCD monitors use the industry standard
>Native Resolution of 1280 x 1028.
>
>
>

Well based upon Dave W. input (and yes I checked a number of manfac )
it appears I am stuck with 1280X1024 if I go with LCD. I have reset my
current monitor to 1280X1024 to see how I will adjust. I also measured
the diagonal distance of my GLASS monitor and it really is 17.5 inches
viewable. So if I go with 19" LCD I do get a small break. Other issue
I am trying to assess is what happens when I edit a photo, now I use the
highest resolution I can get from my CRT, but not sure what that means
if I use LCD for editing.

I have just started looking at the wide verse normal LCD. I looked at
a wide at a store (the wide being driven by a normal VGA? display). The
distortion on the wide was very noticeable. My guess is unless one gets
a capable video card ..oh well??.

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Old 11-26-2006, 07:42 PM
kony
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:33:41 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
wrote:

>DaveW wrote:
>
>>Sorry, but ALL standard 17" and 19" LCD monitors use the industry standard
>>Native Resolution of 1280 x 1028.
>>
>>
>>

>Well based upon Dave W. input (and yes I checked a number of manfac )
>it appears I am stuck with 1280X1024 if I go with LCD. I have reset my
>current monitor to 1280X1024 to see how I will adjust. I also measured
>the diagonal distance of my GLASS monitor and it really is 17.5 inches
>viewable. So if I go with 19" LCD I do get a small break. Other issue
>I am trying to assess is what happens when I edit a photo, now I use the
>highest resolution I can get from my CRT, but not sure what that means
>if I use LCD for editing.


Especially with photo editing, you do not want to use a
non-native resolution. With any non-native resolution you
cannot set a monitor resolution beyond the native (above it)
and retain per-pixel precision, won't be able to see
individual image pixels accurately represented on-screen
anymore.


>I have just started looking at the wide verse normal LCD. I looked at
>a wide at a store (the wide being driven by a normal VGA? display). The
>distortion on the wide was very noticeable. My guess is unless one gets
>a capable video card ..oh well??.


Define distortion in this context.

Any current generation video card with DVI output is the
ideal. It should display per-pixel accuracy with zero
distortion due to it being widescreen vs. regular.

In light of your desire to edit photos, it might be more
appropriate to go with a 20 or 21" 1600x1200 resolution
monitor. The higher the native resolution, the less
degradation there would be if you "must" set it to 1024 x
768 (even though I'd still suggest it better to get used to
the native resolution rather than doing that).

Further for photo editing you will want an 8 bit panel with
fairly high contrast ratio, at last 700:1 but even better
higher... but this raises the cost too, budget may be a
factor at some point.


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Old 11-26-2006, 09:59 PM
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kony wrote:

>On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 15:33:41 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>DaveW wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, but ALL standard 17" and 19" LCD monitors use the industry standard
>>>Native Resolution of 1280 x 1028.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>Well based upon Dave W. input (and yes I checked a number of manfac )
>>it appears I am stuck with 1280X1024 if I go with LCD. I have reset my
>>current monitor to 1280X1024 to see how I will adjust. I also measured
>>the diagonal distance of my GLASS monitor and it really is 17.5 inches
>>viewable. So if I go with 19" LCD I do get a small break. Other issue
>>I am trying to assess is what happens when I edit a photo, now I use the
>>highest resolution I can get from my CRT, but not sure what that means
>>if I use LCD for editing.
>>
>>

>
>Especially with photo editing, you do not want to use a
>non-native resolution. With any non-native resolution you
>cannot set a monitor resolution beyond the native (above it)
>and retain per-pixel precision, won't be able to see
>individual image pixels accurately represented on-screen
>anymore.
>
>
>
>
>>I have just started looking at the wide verse normal LCD. I looked at
>>a wide at a store (the wide being driven by a normal VGA? display). The
>>distortion on the wide was very noticeable. My guess is unless one gets
>>a capable video card ..oh well??.
>>
>>

>
>Define distortion in this context.
>
>Any current generation video card with DVI output is the
>ideal. It should display per-pixel accuracy with zero
>distortion due to it being widescreen vs. regular.
>
>In light of your desire to edit photos, it might be more
>appropriate to go with a 20 or 21" 1600x1200 resolution
>monitor. The higher the native resolution, the less
>degradation there would be if you "must" set it to 1024 x
>768 (even though I'd still suggest it better to get used to
>the native resolution rather than doing that).
>
>Further for photo editing you will want an 8 bit panel with
>fairly high contrast ratio, at last 700:1 but even better
>higher... but this raises the cost too, budget may be a
>factor at some point.
>
>
>

Looking at wide displays are their Video cards that can output in either
4:3 and 16:9 ratios. This starting to seem like an old joke about Red
shoes then a matching dress..purse...Gloves....Lexus. Just kidding
about the gloves. Yes I am trying 1280X1024 to see if old eyes can adjust.

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Old 11-26-2006, 10:39 PM
kony
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On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 21:59:19 GMT, L <lc@xxxjoimail.com>
wrote:


>Looking at wide displays are their Video cards that can output in either
>4:3 and 16:9 ratios.


Yes, most of the popular nVidia and ATI cards can, though
it's a driver setting that needs changed if it doesn't pick
it up automagically. As for other video adapters, you'll
have to research what you had in mind.

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