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Old 10-18-2006, 12:52 PM
Jethro
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Default Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

Wouldn't you know it!

I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
on a new machine with WXP SP2.

I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.

I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
for this printer under the various OS's.

I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
950 up as a printer.

Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.

HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
replacement disk.

So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
solve this dilemma?

Thanks

Jethro

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Old 10-18-2006, 01:23 PM
Paul
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne



Jethro wrote:
>
> Wouldn't you know it!
>
> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>
> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>
> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
> for this printer under the various OS's.
>
> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
> 950 up as a printer.
>
> Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>
> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
> replacement disk.
>
> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
> solve this dilemma?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jethro


There is a 37.58MB download here. Have you tried it ?
There is also a critical update file, whatever that is.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en

Paul

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Old 10-18-2006, 01:59 PM
Jethro
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Default Re: Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 09:23:09 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:

>
>
>Jethro wrote:
>>
>> Wouldn't you know it!
>>
>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>
>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>
>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>
>> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
>> 950 up as a printer.
>>
>> Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
>> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>>
>> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
>> replacement disk.
>>
>> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
>> solve this dilemma?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jethro

>
>There is a 37.58MB download here. Have you tried it ?
>There is also a critical update file, whatever that is.
>
>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en
>
> Paul



Yes I did Paul. It seemed to install the 950 as a printer okay, but
nothing else - not the scanner nor the fax. I suspect the software
for them was separate and on the CD I lost.

Thanks anyway.

Jethro

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Old 10-18-2006, 02:12 PM
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne


"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
news:un8cj2hs13kies46v587jdedogd4hc0t08@4ax.com...
> Wouldn't you know it!
>
> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>
> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>
> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
> for this printer under the various OS's.
>
> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
> 950 up as a printer.
>
> Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>
> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
> replacement disk.
>
> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
> solve this dilemma?
>

Read D\loading the sofware here. Better to order the CD.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...cname=bpu01857



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Old 10-18-2006, 02:44 PM
Jethro
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On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:12:13 GMT, "beenthere" <Waiting@Home.com>
wrote:

>
>"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
>news:un8cj2hs13kies46v587jdedogd4hc0t08@4ax.com.. .
>> Wouldn't you know it!
>>
>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>
>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>
>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>
>> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
>> 950 up as a printer.
>>
>> Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
>> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>>
>> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
>> replacement disk.
>>
>> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
>> solve this dilemma?
>>

>Read D\loading the sofware here. Better to order the CD.
>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...cname=bpu01857
>



Hey guys!

I tried installing again from the downloaded .exe file, and this time
it worked. Including the scan/fax functions. I think last time I
failed to complete (!) the installation properly as per the included
instructions. My fault here.

Thanks

Jethro

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Old 10-18-2006, 07:14 PM
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Default Need Help Correcting Pool of Printer Names

I am re-creating my two machine LAN, both WXP SP2.

I want my three printers all connected to one, and used by both
machines. When I 'add new printers' on the second (remote) machine I
notice that the choices include the 'share-name' I want, which has
worked fine except for one printer, but the pool of available choices
include a whole lot of names from earlier setups over the past two
years. Those choices are of no use any more, and in fact their
'share-names' are no longer valid. How do I remove all the obsolete
choices now? I could find no way.

While I am asking, the one printer that I can not seem to use remotely
is a Konica 1350W Laser. Is that printer unique is some way that
precludes sharing? The printer works fine when printing from the
machine to which it is connected, but not from the second machine.

Thanks

Jethro

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Old 07-03-2007, 04:17 PM
Barry Watzman
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site. You
won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party OCR
software), but you will get full functionality, including the scanner.


Jethro wrote:
> Wouldn't you know it!
>
> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>
> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>
> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
> for this printer under the various OS's.
>
> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
> 950 up as a printer.
>
> Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need the fax)? As I
> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>
> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
> replacement disk.
>
> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
> solve this dilemma?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jethro


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Old 07-03-2007, 10:29 PM
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne


"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site. You
> won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party OCR
> software), but you will get full functionality, including the scanner.
>
>
> Jethro wrote:
>> Wouldn't you know it!
>>
>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>
>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>
>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>
>> I tried one of the drivers, and it worked just fine for setting the
>> 950 up as a printer. Now how do I set it up for scanning (I don't need
>> the fax)? As I
>> recall, the missing CD disk had all that software plus more I think.
>>
>> HP has discontinued the printer, and I could find no way to get a
>> replacement disk.
>>
>> So - I can't use the 950 as a scanner. Can anyone tell me how to
>> solve this dilemma?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jethro


There will however remain a problem!
After downloading the software package from HP support website, jethro will
probably be unable to install the softwrare and will receive an error
message like "installer detected that the PSC950 is already installed".
I had this problem and could not find a way to overcome the error. I
involved HP support and after 2 months of phone calls, mails, online chatt
and escalations, the conclusion and advice of the "factory expert" was that
I had to reinstall Windows!!!
It looks like nobody at HP knows where the check routine for previous
install (other drivers, Windows default drivers, old HP drivers) is located
or how to disable it.



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Old 07-03-2007, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:29:22 GMT, "ElJerid"
<s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote:


>There will however remain a problem!
>After downloading the software package from HP support website, jethro will
>probably be unable to install the softwrare and will receive an error
>message like "installer detected that the PSC950 is already installed".
>I had this problem and could not find a way to overcome the error. I
>involved HP support and after 2 months of phone calls, mails, online chatt
>and escalations, the conclusion and advice of the "factory expert" was that
>I had to reinstall Windows!!!
>It looks like nobody at HP knows where the check routine for previous
>install (other drivers, Windows default drivers, old HP drivers) is located
>or how to disable it.
>


I don't know for certain but would suspect you first need to
install the software before plugging in the printer. If it
had been plugged in already, you might be able to remove
entries from Device Manager, otherwise you are left hunting
down associated enumerated device entries in the registry.

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Old 07-04-2007, 12:06 AM
Barry Watzman
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

There is an "uninstall" tool for many printer models (not necessarily
all) so that you can start over clean.

However, in his case I thought he said it was a new XP machine.


kony wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:29:22 GMT, "ElJerid"
> <s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote:
>
>
>> There will however remain a problem!
>> After downloading the software package from HP support website, jethro will
>> probably be unable to install the softwrare and will receive an error
>> message like "installer detected that the PSC950 is already installed".
>> I had this problem and could not find a way to overcome the error. I
>> involved HP support and after 2 months of phone calls, mails, online chatt
>> and escalations, the conclusion and advice of the "factory expert" was that
>> I had to reinstall Windows!!!
>> It looks like nobody at HP knows where the check routine for previous
>> install (other drivers, Windows default drivers, old HP drivers) is located
>> or how to disable it.
>>

>
> I don't know for certain but would suspect you first need to
> install the software before plugging in the printer. If it
> had been plugged in already, you might be able to remove
> entries from Device Manager, otherwise you are left hunting
> down associated enumerated device entries in the registry.


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Old 07-04-2007, 07:15 AM
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
news:4qkl8316f3nofe3o4uc72j98vc70pmh6ei@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 22:29:22 GMT, "ElJerid"
> <s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote:
>
>
>>There will however remain a problem!
>>After downloading the software package from HP support website, jethro
>>will
>>probably be unable to install the softwrare and will receive an error
>>message like "installer detected that the PSC950 is already installed".
>>I had this problem and could not find a way to overcome the error. I
>>involved HP support and after 2 months of phone calls, mails, online chatt
>>and escalations, the conclusion and advice of the "factory expert" was
>>that
>>I had to reinstall Windows!!!
>>It looks like nobody at HP knows where the check routine for previous
>>install (other drivers, Windows default drivers, old HP drivers) is
>>located
>>or how to disable it.
>>

>
> I don't know for certain but would suspect you first need to
> install the software before plugging in the printer. If it
> had been plugged in already, you might be able to remove
> entries from Device Manager, otherwise you are left hunting
> down associated enumerated device entries in the registry.


Yes, you' re right. But what happened is that for some reason, an old
software version had been installed and it appeared to be impossible to
completely remove it, nor by cleaning the registry, nor by removing in
Device Manager, nor by uninstalling it the traditional way, nor by running a
special uninstall utility provided by HP, nor after hours and hours of HP's
support.
And guess, I finally reinstalled Windows XP, which was finally faster than
to continue investigating where that damn information of existing
installation was located.



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Old 07-07-2007, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne

"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Jethro wrote:
>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>
>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>
>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>> for this printer under the various OS's.


> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site. You
> won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party OCR
> software), but you will get full functionality, including the scanner.


You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en

There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the US it is
~$10 with shipping included.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging


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Old 07-09-2007, 03:41 PM
Barry Watzman
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Default HP Removed Drivers (was: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne)

Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot
any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver
already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it,
or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the
board, not just printers.


Bob Headrick wrote:
> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Jethro wrote:
>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>
>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>
>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>> for this printer under the various OS's.

>
>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>> scanner.

>
> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en
>
>
> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the US
> it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>
> Regards,
> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>


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Old 07-09-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: HP Removed Drivers (was: Need Help With Installing HP 950 PSC AllInOne)

In article <46925743$0$16561$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot
>any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver
>already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it,
>or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the
>board, not just printers.
>
>


Most likely its Microsoft demanding that noone support the older OS's to force
people to buy new hardware/New OS etc...



>Bob Headrick wrote:
>> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>
>>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>> for this printer under the various OS's.

>>
>>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>> scanner.

>>
>> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>

> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...us&dlc=en&prod
>uct=60259&lang=en
>>
>>
>> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the US
>> it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>


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Old 07-09-2007, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: HP Removed Drivers

My old, we talking old, 7700 series laptop's still supported, with OSes
from 3.1 to 2000. Maybe just printers, or maybe they just ain't got
'round to dumping everything yet.

Quote from HP:
" Microsoft discontinued Windows 98/ME shipments in June 2002/2003
respectively.
HP’s Windows 98/ME driver discontinuance is directly related to the
fact that there is no longer Microsoft resources allocated to issue
management."

Don't know why they couldn't have left the old stuff available for
download, though.



Barry Watzman wrote:
> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot
> any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver
> already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it,
> or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the
> board, not just printers.
>


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Old 07-09-2007, 08:32 PM
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GMAN wrote:
> Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for
>> any OS' before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for
>> any NT or 9x systems, even ones which were posted online as of
>> 6/30. You also cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers.
>> Either you have the driver already (on CD or saved download), or
>> you know someone else who has it, or you are screwed. This was
>> applicable to ALL HP products, across theboard, not just printers.

>
> Most likely its Microsoft demanding that noone support the older
> OS's to force people to buy new hardware/New OS etc...


More likely it is some idiot at HP. If MS pulled something of that
sort, and it was provable, they would be in a heap of expensive
trouble, IMO.

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Old 07-09-2007, 09:37 PM
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Barry Watzman wrote:
> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
> across the board, not just printers.


While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic
operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K
then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.
>
>
> Bob Headrick wrote:
>> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>
>>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>
>>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>> for this printer under the various OS's.

>>
>>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>> scanner.

>>
>> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en
>>
>>
>> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the
>> US it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>


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Old 07-09-2007, 11:46 PM
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In article <cvxki.4500$rL1.923@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>, boyhowdy wrote:
>
>
>Barry Watzman wrote:
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>> across the board, not just printers.

>
>While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic
>operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K
>then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.
>>



Its a piece of trash when "I" say it is, not some shitstain at microsoft!!!!!


As long as its usefull to me, its none of their business.


>> Bob Headrick wrote:
>>> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>>
>>>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>>> scanner.
>>>
>>> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>>

> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...us&dlc=en&prod
>uct=60259&lang=en
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the
>>> US it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 02:36 AM
kony
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:37:00 -0700, measekite
<inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:

>
>
>Barry Watzman wrote:
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>> across the board, not just printers.

>
>While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic
>operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K
>then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.
>>



Don't be an idiot.

Not everyone, not every system needs to encode HD video or
game at 200 FPS. For example there are lots of businesses
out there running legacy software because it would cost many
thousands of dollars to switch (merely on your say-so, since
they'd have already switched if present systems/OS weren't
getting the job done). The only real factor might be the
age of the hardware as it related to reliability, so people
will buy newer systems and chuck WinXP or Vista to run the
same thing they were already.

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Old 07-10-2007, 04:39 AM
Barry Watzman
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It's more than printers, scanners and MFP devices have had their drivers
removed. But I'm not sure about computers that originally came with 9x
(and could not reasonably be upgraded).


Airman Thunderbird wrote:
> My old, we talking old, 7700 series laptop's still supported, with OSes
> from 3.1 to 2000. Maybe just printers, or maybe they just ain't got
> 'round to dumping everything yet.
>
> Quote from HP:
> " Microsoft discontinued Windows 98/ME shipments in June 2002/2003
> respectively.
> HP’s Windows 98/ME driver discontinuance is directly related to the
> fact that there is no longer Microsoft resources allocated to issue
> management."
>
> Don't know why they couldn't have left the old stuff available for
> download, though.
>
>
>
> Barry Watzman wrote:
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>> across the board, not just printers.
>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 04:41 AM
Barry Watzman
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Neither you nor I nor anyone else should be telling people that they
should or should not use a particular OS or that a piece of hardware is
too old for use. Those decisions are up to each person to make for
themself.

measekite wrote:
>
>
> Barry Watzman wrote:
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>> across the board, not just printers.

>
> While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic
> operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K
> then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.
>>
>>
>> Bob Headrick wrote:
>>> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>>> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>>
>>>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>>> scanner.
>>>
>>> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...=60259&lang=en
>>>
>>>
>>> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the
>>> US it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 04:42 AM
Barry Watzman
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MICROSOFT IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS IN ANY WAY.

GMAN wrote:
>
>
>
> Its a piece of trash when "I" say it is, not some shitstain at microsoft!!!!!
>
>
> As long as its usefull to me, its none of their business.
>
>
>>> Bob Headrick wrote:
>>>> "Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>>>> I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>>>> on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>>>> for this printer under the various OS's.
>>>>> Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>>>> You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>>>> OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>>>> scanner.
>>>> You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>>>

>> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...us&dlc=en&prod
>> uct=60259&lang=en
>>>>
>>>> There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the
>>>> US it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 06:28 AM
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Barry Watzman wrote:
>
> Neither you nor I nor anyone else should be telling people that
> they should or should not use a particular OS or that a piece of
> hardware is too old for use. Those decisions are up to each
> person to make for themself.


Finally a note of sanity in this thread (even though topposted).

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Old 07-10-2007, 06:34 AM
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kony wrote:

On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:37:00 -0700, measekite &lt;inkystinky@oem.com&gt; wrote:



Barry Watzman wrote:



Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS' before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the board, not just printers.



While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.



Don't be an idiot. Not everyone, not every system needs to encode HD video or game at 200 FPS. For example there are lots of businesses out there running legacy software because it would cost many thousands of dollars to switch (merely on your say-so, since they'd have already switched if present systems/OS weren't getting the job done). The only real factor might be the age of the hardware as it related to reliability, so people will buy newer systems and chuck WinXP or Vista to run the same thing they were already.


Properly run businesses do not run W98.&nbsp; It is not and never really was stable.&nbsp; And they certainly do not run games.&nbsp; And if they need to run legacy software that old they are at a competitive disadvantge.

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Old 07-10-2007, 06:46 AM
Arthur Entlich
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Is it possible they are reconstructing the website and moving things
around? You might want to send HP a little note and see if they can
tell you what's going on. Also, if they did intend to remove it
permanently, maybe if people indicate the need, they will return it.


Art


Barry Watzman wrote:
> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot
> any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver
> already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it,
> or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the
> board, not just printers.
>
>


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Old 07-10-2007, 06:49 AM
Arthur Entlich
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As "nice" a conspiracy theory as this is, there is absolutely no
credibility to it.

Microsoft has no power to "force" companies to remove older drivers. If
indeed the drivers were removed, the decision was HPs, unless they
violated some copyrighted code and were told to remove them due to a
legal matter.

Art

GMAN wrote:

> In article <46925743$0$16561$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>>before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>>systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also cannot
>>any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the driver
>>already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who has it,
>>or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products, across the
>>board, not just printers.
>>
>>

>
>
> Most likely its Microsoft demanding that noone support the older OS's to force
> people to buy new hardware/New OS etc...
>
>
>
>
>>Bob Headrick wrote:
>>
>>>"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>>>
>>>>Jethro wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>>>on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>>
>>>>>I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>>>for this printer under the various OS's.
>>>
>>>>Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>>>You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>>>OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>>>scanner.
>>>
>>>You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>>

>>
>>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...us&dlc=en&prod
>>uct=60259&lang=en
>>
>>>
>>>There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the US
>>>it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 07:03 AM
kony
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 23:34:09 -0700, measekite
<inkystinky@oem.com> wrote:


>Don't be an idiot.
>
>Not everyone, not every system needs to encode HD video or
>game at 200 FPS. For example there are lots of businesses
>out there running legacy software because it would cost many
>thousands of dollars to switch (merely on your say-so, since
>they'd have already switched if present systems/OS weren't
>getting the job done). The only real factor might be the
>age of the hardware as it related to reliability, so people
>will buy newer systems and chuck WinXP or Vista to run the
>same thing they were already.
> </pre>
></blockquote>
><br>
>Properly run businesses do not run W98.&nbsp; It is not and never really was
>stable.&nbsp; And they certainly do not run games.&nbsp; And if they need to run
>legacy software that old they are at a competitive disadvantge.<br>
></body>
></html>


Again you show ignorance. You are thinking only about some
limited general-purpose desktop office machine.

Win98 is not so instable for a mission-specific system used
in production, where it is:

1) Not trying to run everything and the kitchen sink, it is
doing one job.

2) That one job is coded to be at least stable enough to
run for a few days, not everything has to run for 5 years
between reboots, particulary when a reboot can be scheduled
every few weeks, versus dozens of thousands of dollars cost
to switch.

3) Games. LOL. The world does not revolve around games.
I am a gamer, and accept anyone who chooses to equip a
system to do so, has every right... but that's not a reason
to reject a system which suits it's intended purpose fine
because _you_ arbitrarily think it should instead suit some
other subjective purpose.

4) If it ain't broke don't fix it. Like I wrote already,
if these systems were having problems in their actual use,
they'd have been replaced already.


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Old 07-10-2007, 07:06 AM
Arthur Entlich
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That quote is very telling, thank you for providing it. To me, this
shows that HP is up to no good and is trying to bury their older
products and make them unusable. Hopefully, someone will take it upon
themselves to offer these drivers. I'd love to see HP try to shut them
down.

The way this statement below is written, is, IMHO, about as sleazy as it
gets. They imply in some manner that the fact that Microsoft no longer
makes or supports those OSs somehow obligates HP to no longer provide
the already written and proven drivers.

HP loves to claim how GREEN and environmentally aware and concerned they
are, but this shows what they are really about. Yeah, for a fee they
will take their old products (and even those of other manufacturers) and
"recycle" them for you, but it would appear they are doing anything they
can to force obsolescence of their older products.

It's one thing (although I don't respect it) to no longer directly
support older equipment with new drivers or driver updates, but to then
pull the old drivers which are already written and were working is a
real slap in the face to the owners of their products and to the
environment.

Question for HP... if Microsoft is no longer "providing resources" to
certain OSs, that should mean there will be no further changes made to
those OSs, meaning the drivers should work as they are within the
environment of those OSs - so why remove them?

Fine. HP now has another consultant who can no longer recommend their
products with a clear conscience. I don't know if HP has any idea how
much undercurrent is developing regarding their product lines and
customer service, but eventually it will come back to bite them in the
butt. Sooner would be better than later IMHO.

Art




Airman Thunderbird wrote:

> My old, we talking old, 7700 series laptop's still supported, with OSes
> from 3.1 to 2000. Maybe just printers, or maybe they just ain't got
> 'round to dumping everything yet.
>
> Quote from HP:
> " Microsoft discontinued Windows 98/ME shipments in June 2002/2003
> respectively.
> HP’s Windows 98/ME driver discontinuance is directly related to the
> fact that there is no longer Microsoft resources allocated to issue
> management."
>
> Don't know why they couldn't have left the old stuff available for
> download, though.
>
>
>
> Barry Watzman wrote:
>
>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>> across the board, not just printers.
>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 07:11 AM
Arthur Entlich
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I agree, when you buy a piece of hardware, or software, you own the
rights to it, or to its license. It is not up to the company to create
a time bomb within it unless they reveal that right up front, so you
know the limitation at time of purchase.

Win 2K and Win 98/SE are very much still in use, and are indeed quite
functional. If companies don't want you using those OSs, or their
peripherals under them, they should be forced by legislation to both
recycle the goods and compensate you for the loss of the goods.

Art

GMAN wrote:

> In article <cvxki.4500$rL1.923@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>, boyhowdy wrote:
>
>>
>>Barry Watzman wrote:
>>
>>>Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>>>before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>>>systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>>>cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>>>driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>>>has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>>>across the board, not just printers.

>>
>>While that is unfortunate, nobody should be using those archaic
>>operating systems anyway. If your computer cannot at least support W2K
>>then is it a piece of trash and ready to be sent overseas.
>>

>
>
> Its a piece of trash when "I" say it is, not some shitstain at microsoft!!!!!
>
>
> As long as its usefull to me, its none of their business.
>
>
>
>>>Bob Headrick wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:468a7695$0$14970$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>>>>
>>>>>Jethro wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I have a HP 950 PSC AllInOne (Print/Scan/Fax) that I want to install
>>>>>>on a new machine with WXP SP2.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't find the CD that came with it. I've looked & looked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried DriverGuide.com, but all they seem to have are print-drivers
>>>>>>for this printer under the various OS's.
>>>>
>>>>>Drivers for all HP products can be downloaded from the HP web site.
>>>>>You won't get "value added software" (generally that means 3rd party
>>>>>OCR software), but you will get full functionality, including the
>>>>>scanner.
>>>>
>>>>You can download drivers for the PSC 950 from HP at
>>>>

>>
>>http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/s...us&dlc=en&prod
>>uct=60259&lang=en
>>
>>>>
>>>>There is also a link on that page to order a replacement CD, in the
>>>>US it is ~$10 with shipping included.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
>>>>


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Old 07-10-2007, 07:38 AM
GMAN
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In article <46930da3$0$8027$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, Barry Watzman <WatzmanNOSPAM@neo.rr.com> wrote:
>It's more than printers, scanners and MFP devices have had their drivers
>removed. But I'm not sure about computers that originally came with 9x
>(and could not reasonably be upgraded).
>
>


I wouldnt have such a problem with it if HP would turn around and write
proper XP and vista drivers for all of the legacy products they just
shitcanned.


>Airman Thunderbird wrote:
>> My old, we talking old, 7700 series laptop's still supported, with OSes
>> from 3.1 to 2000. Maybe just printers, or maybe they just ain't got
>> 'round to dumping everything yet.
>>
>> Quote from HP:
>> " Microsoft discontinued Windows 98/ME shipments in June 2002/2003
>> respectively.
>> HP’s Windows 98/ME driver discontinuance is directly related to the
>> fact that there is no longer Microsoft resources allocated to issue
>> management."
>>
>> Don't know why they couldn't have left the old stuff available for
>> download, though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Barry Watzman wrote:
>>> Did anyone notice that on July 1st, HP removed ALL drivers for any OS'
>>> before Windows 2000? You can no longer get drivers for any NT or 9x
>>> systems, even ones which were posted online as of 6/30. You also
>>> cannot any longer order CDs with these drivers. Either you have the
>>> driver already (on CD or saved download), or you know someone else who
>>> has it, or you are screwed. This was applicable to ALL HP products,
>>> across the board, not just printers.
>>>


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