OCZ vs Corsair

For the same type, speed and latency modules, OCZ seems to always be 10~15%
less expensive than Corsair. I'm tempted to go with OCZ. Is there's any
reason that i should not or if this is simply a preference thing similar to
Toyota vs Mazda? TIA for your reply.

--
Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
Montréal Québec
PS: 1000 excuses for grammatical errors or
omissions, i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
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"no spam" from the adress.)

Corsair is considered by computer pros to be the highest quality RAM
available. Thus it sells for a bit more.

--
DaveW

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"KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> For the same type, speed and latency modules, OCZ seems to always be
> 10~15%
> less expensive than Corsair. I'm tempted to go with OCZ. Is there's any
> reason that i should not or if this is simply a preference thing similar
> to
> Toyota vs Mazda? TIA for your reply.
>
> --
> Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
> Montréal Québec
> PS: 1000 excuses for grammatical errors or
> omissions, i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
> (If replying also by e-mail, remove
> "no spam" from the adress.)
>
>

DaveW wrote:

> Corsair is considered by computer pros to be the highest quality RAM
> available.

I've never had a bad Corsair module (unlike Mushkin, K-byte, and
Kingston, especially the latter), but Corsair admits to using UTT chips
-- UnTesTed. So how can their products be of the highest quality?

Isn't the only way to get the highest quality RAM by purchasing modules
made by real chip companies?

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 16:59:42 -0400, "KILOWATT"
<kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote:

>For the same type, speed and latency modules, OCZ seems to always be 10~15%
>less expensive than Corsair.

Make sure to compare voltages too, lower being better (all
else being equal, but if you want to overclock it becomes
more complicated researching which chips each are using).

Supposing you want to run the spec'd timings and speed, ALL
memory is fine- every singe brand is supposed guaranteed to
run those timings and you have a defective product if they
don't. This means you need not consider only these two but
whatever is cheapest, whether OCZ or something else.

On the other hand, some companies might be a little
aggressive in their ratings, so it boils down to how much
you trust the brand and whether the seller has a good return
policy. A good return policy is more important than which
brand, IMO, unless you are looking to o'c past the specs and
then you will have to find a forum somewhere with
discussions about your particular board, it's bios settings,
bios version, chipset voltage mods (if bios doesn't allow
this or doesn't allow enough voltage increase). Then of
course the supplimental cooling that comes from the extra
voltage to o'c, etc, etc.


> I'm tempted to go with OCZ. Is there's any
>reason that i should not or if this is simply a preference thing similar to
>Toyota vs Mazda? TIA for your reply.

OCZ makes several grades of memory, I don't claim to have a
good idea of how all of them compare to other alternatives
but you might get some ideas by browsing the buyer feedback
at http://www.newegg.com

Last time I bought OCZ, it was 2 modules. 1 of them worked
great, one was completely dead. I sent in the dead module
and they sent me back a matched pair of them- double the
memory I sent to them so I was pretty happy. OCZ has a
forum where the problem report rate doesn't look too bad so
I don't think this is a common problem (or at least, not
more common than with any other memory).

Previous OCZ purchases worked fine, as did several Corsair
PC3200 modules I used to put in socket A systems. They're
both decent brands so I refer back to what I wrote above-
buy from someplace with a good return policy. or find a web
forum where fellow users of your motherboard report how far
they'd been able to o'c brand X model Y.

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
> DaveW wrote:
>
>> Corsair is considered by computer pros to be the highest quality
>> RAM
>> available.
>
> I've never had a bad Corsair module (unlike Mushkin, K-byte, and
> Kingston, especially the latter), but Corsair admits to using UTT
> chips
> -- UnTesTed. So how can their products be of the highest quality?
>
> Isn't the only way to get the highest quality RAM by purchasing
> modules
> made by real chip companies?
>


So far, all those memory sticks with unreal modules have read as zero
bytes. Alas. Do you buy bread only made by wheat farmers?

"KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:4522cea9$0$21910$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
> For the same type, speed and latency modules, OCZ seems to always be
> 10~15%
> less expensive than Corsair. I'm tempted to go with OCZ. Is there's
> any
> reason that i should not or if this is simply a preference thing
> similar to
> Toyota vs Mazda? TIA for your reply.
>
> --
> Alain(alias:Kilowatt)
> Montréal Québec
> PS: 1000 excuses for grammatical errors or
> omissions, i'm a "pure" french canadian! :-)
> (If replying also by e-mail, remove
> "no spam" from the adress.)
>
>


Depends on the *family* of Corsair products you are comparing to OCZ.
Corsair has their "value" line, too.

Vanguard wrote:
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1159925457.733988.58050@i42g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...

> > I've never had a bad Corsair module (unlike Mushkin, K-byte, and
> > Kingston, especially the latter), but Corsair admits to using UTT
> > chips -- UnTesTed. So how can their products be of the highest quality?
> >
> > Isn't the only way to get the highest quality RAM by purchasing
> > modules made by real chip companies?

> So far, all those memory sticks with unreal modules have read as zero bytes.

????

What are "memory sticks with unreal modules"? Are they memory modules
with fake modules attached to them? OTOH why should anyone be
surprised when "unreal modules" contain no memory at all?

> Alas. Do you buy bread only made by wheat farmers?

As opposed to bread that's not only made by wheat farmers but also
eaten by them?

I normally buy the cheapest memory but test it for several hours at its
SPD defaults (which aren't necessarily the BIOS' automatic memory
settings) with both Gold Memory and MemTest86.

kony wrote:

> Supposing you want to run the spec'd timings and speed, ALL
> memory is fine- every single brand is supposed guaranteed to
> run those timings and you have a defective product if they
> don't.

8 out of 11 or 12 Kingston 512MB PC3200 modules I tried were defective.
:(

Thanks for the replies. Here's the models from each manufacturer that i
have in mind:


http://www.ocztechnology.com/product..._gold_gx_xtc_d
ual_channel

http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...048-5400C4.pdf


I've checked the voltage Kony. Each brand rated @ 1.9V.
>So far, all those memory sticks with unreal modules have read as zero
>bytes. Alas. Do you buy bread only made by wheat farmers?

Do you meant "sticks with unreal chips" ? What "unreal" means exactly?

"KILOWATT" <kilowatt"nospam"@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the replies. Here's the models from each manufacturer
> that i
> have in mind:
>
>
> http://www.ocztechnology.com/product..._gold_gx_xtc_d
> ual_channel
>
> http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...048-5400C4.pdf
>
>
> I've checked the voltage Kony. Each brand rated @ 1.9V.
>>So far, all those memory sticks with unreal modules have read as
>>zero
>>bytes. Alas. Do you buy bread only made by wheat farmers?
>
> Do you meant "sticks with unreal chips" ? What "unreal" means
> exactly?
>
>


I was punning on larry's use of the term "real" memory chips.

Vanguard wrote:

>So far, all those memory sticks with unreal modules have read as
>zero bytes. Alas. Do you buy bread only made by wheat farmers?
> >
> > Do you meant "sticks with unreal chips" ? What "unreal" means
> > exactly?

> I was punning on larry's use of the term "real" memory chips.

Not very well, even when he corrects you. ;)

I never said anything about real memory chips but real memory chip
manufacturers.

"larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> I never said anything about real memory chips but real memory chip
> manufacturers.


What modifies what? Don't bury modifiers too deep; else, it's unclear
what you mean.

"Great Blue Horse Saloon".
A saloon called the "Great Blue Horse"?
A great saloon called the "Blue Horse" (versus the other "Blue Horse"
saloon down the street that is not so great)?
The "Great Blue" saloon for horses?
A great saloon for blue horses?

"real memory chip manufacturer".
A manufacturer of real (versus unreal) "memory chips"?
A real (versus unreal) manufacturer of memory chips?
A chip manufacturer of "real" memory (versus "unreal" memory), where
real and unreal are a type of memory (like real and imaginary
numbers)?

Infineon (http://www.infineon.com/, formerly Siemens Semiconductor) is
a manufacturer of memory chips. So they are a "real manufacturer" of
"memory chips", or a manufacturer of "real memory chips" (you pick
whatever comes closest to what you meant to say). So, according to
you, anyone that uses Infineon chips to build memory assemblies on
phenolic circuit boards that they probably didn't make using solder
that they didn't manufacture to coat the contacts with gold that they
didn't produce must not be real memory chip manufacturers.

Micron and Muskin use memory chips from Infineon. According to you,
Micron and Muskin are not real memory chip manufacturers. Well, duh,
of course they don't make the memory *chips*. They make the memory
*modules* that YOU can actually use. Oh, by the way, Crucial is a
division of Micron, so Crucial is also not a real memory chip
manufacturer according to you. Corsair is considered the elite memory
brand. So who actually makes the *chips* on the *modules* that get
the "Corsair" brand slapped on them? Corsair fabs the modules, not
the chips. Do we really know whose memory chips are getting slapped
onto the PCBs in Corsair's assembly plant? Do we care?

You think everything that makes up that a Sony-branded television was
made by Sony? You're buying a brand, not whatever they happen to use
in producing that product. I remember when users pooh-poohed Radio
Shack audio gear but thought Teac was better yet both brands came from
the same assembly plant and Radio Shack actually required tighter
specs than Teac. The only difference was the label slapped on the
outside. I've been inside RCA and Raytheon gear and wondered what
lazy, low-wage, druggie slopped the parts together but the products
still worked according to spec.

Vanguard wrote:
> "larry moe 'n curly" <larrymoencurly@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1160036157.001062.243990@i42g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

> > I never said anything about real memory chips but real memory chip
> > manufacturers.

> What modifies what? Don't bury modifiers too deep; else, it's unclear
> what you mean.

> "real memory chip manufacturer".
> A manufacturer of real (versus unreal) "memory chips"?
> A real (versus unreal) manufacturer of memory chips?
> A chip manufacturer of "real" memory (versus "unreal" memory), where
> real and unreal are a type of memory (like real and imaginary
> numbers)?

Real (memory chip manufacturer). No other meaning makes sense, except
to completely ignorant person. Happy, Pappy?

I suggest you go to a biker bar and have the biggest, meanest-looking
patron repeat my words. Then try correcting him. And any person who
wrote "memory sticks with unreal modules" shouldn't go around
correcting another person's English.










> Infineon (http://www.infineon.com/, formerly Siemens Semiconductor) is
> a manufacturer of memory chips. So they are a "real manufacturer" of
> "memory chips", or a manufacturer of "real memory chips" (you pick
> whatever comes closest to what you meant to say). So, according to
> you, anyone that uses Infineon chips to build memory assemblies on
> phenolic circuit boards that they probably didn't make using solder
> that they didn't manufacture to coat the contacts with gold that they
> didn't produce must not be real memory chip manufacturers.
>
> Micron and Muskin use memory chips from Infineon. According to you,
> Micron and Muskin are not real memory chip manufacturers. Well, duh,
> of course they don't make the memory *chips*. They make the memory
> *modules* that YOU can actually use. Oh, by the way, Crucial is a
> division of Micron, so Crucial is also not a real memory chip
> manufacturer according to you. Corsair is considered the elite memory
> brand. So who actually makes the *chips* on the *modules* that get
> the "Corsair" brand slapped on them? Corsair fabs the modules, not
> the chips. Do we really know whose memory chips are getting slapped
> onto the PCBs in Corsair's assembly plant? Do we care?
>
> You think everything that makes up that a Sony-branded television was
> made by Sony? You're buying a brand, not whatever they happen to use
> in producing that product. I remember when users pooh-poohed Radio
> Shack audio gear but thought Teac was better yet both brands came from
> the same assembly plant and Radio Shack actually required tighter
> specs than Teac. The only difference was the label slapped on the
> outside. I've been inside RCA and Raytheon gear and wondered what
> lazy, low-wage, druggie slopped the parts together but the products
> still worked according to spec.