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Old 10-16-2005, 04:14 AM
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Default PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

I have seen cards with 12 and 16 pipelines, bu understand that 16 is better
and that the VIVO cards have the 16?



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Old 10-16-2005, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:14:52 -0300, "News_Reader"
<news_reader@rogers.com> wrote:

>I have seen cards with 12 and 16 pipelines, bu understand that 16 is better


All other things being equal (which is often not the case),
yes more pipes means it is faster, better performance.

>and that the VIVO cards have the 16?



No, VIVO simply means Video In, Video Out, and does not
require 16 pipes, and there are cards with fewer pipes that
have it. The primary question is whether you need good
gaming performance, as # of pipes on modern cards aren't
very relevant to general purpose 2D use including VIVO uses.


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Old 10-16-2005, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

Hi Kony, thanks...so a VIVO card may have 12 manufacturer spec pipelines,
but the actual card may have 16 that can be utilized by softmodding the
card?

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:14:52 -0300, "News_Reader"
> <news_reader@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>I have seen cards with 12 and 16 pipelines, bu understand that 16 is
>>better

>
> All other things being equal (which is often not the case),
> yes more pipes means it is faster, better performance.
>
>>and that the VIVO cards have the 16?

>
>
> No, VIVO simply means Video In, Video Out, and does not
> require 16 pipes, and there are cards with fewer pipes that
> have it. The primary question is whether you need good
> gaming performance, as # of pipes on modern cards aren't
> very relevant to general purpose 2D use including VIVO uses.
>




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Old 10-16-2005, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:01:12 -0300, "News_Reader"
<news_reader@rogers.com> wrote:

>Hi Kony, thanks...so a VIVO card may have 12 manufacturer spec pipelines,


you need to focus on specific cards, only then can you apply
an idea about # of pipes it supports. There is no reason
why there cannot be a card with 12 pipes that does VIVO.

>but the actual card may have 16 that can be utilized by softmodding the
>card?


I have no idea because you haven't even mentioned the card.
If you find a specific card that is known to be
soft-moddable, great. Naturally it would have to support
VIVO already, there is no way to add VIVO with only a
software mod, it has be implemented on the physical card.



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Old 10-16-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

It was a general question regarding the pipelines, wasn't specific to any
card I was looking at, thanks again.

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:01:12 -0300, "News_Reader"
> <news_reader@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi Kony, thanks...so a VIVO card may have 12 manufacturer spec pipelines,

>
> you need to focus on specific cards, only then can you apply
> an idea about # of pipes it supports. There is no reason
> why there cannot be a card with 12 pipes that does VIVO.
>
>>but the actual card may have 16 that can be utilized by softmodding the
>>card?

>
> I have no idea because you haven't even mentioned the card.
> If you find a specific card that is known to be
> soft-moddable, great. Naturally it would have to support
> VIVO already, there is no way to add VIVO with only a
> software mod, it has be implemented on the physical card.
>
>




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Old 10-17-2005, 06:03 PM
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Default Re: PCI-E Video Card Pipelines

> Hi Kony, thanks...so a VIVO card may have 12 manufacturer spec pipelines,
> but the actual card may have 16 that can be utilized by softmodding the
> card?



As kony said, VIVO has nothing to do with the number of pipelines the card
uses.

You must be referring to the Geforce 6800 (not GT or Ultra), right?
If so then yes, you can softmod the generic 6800 to 16 pipes. However, you
may run into display problems with the 16 pipes unlocked. Here's a good
article on the softmod in question.
http://firingsquad.com/hardware/gefo...king/page2.asp
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"News_Reader" <news_reader@rogers.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Kony, thanks...so a VIVO card may have 12 manufacturer spec pipelines,
> but the actual card may have 16 that can be utilized by softmodding the
> card?
>
> "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:g214l11mrrlbn29866of7qcprtihf2ks5t@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:14:52 -0300, "News_Reader"
>> <news_reader@rogers.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I have seen cards with 12 and 16 pipelines, bu understand that 16 is
>>>better

>>
>> All other things being equal (which is often not the case),
>> yes more pipes means it is faster, better performance.
>>
>>>and that the VIVO cards have the 16?

>>
>>
>> No, VIVO simply means Video In, Video Out, and does not
>> require 16 pipes, and there are cards with fewer pipes that
>> have it. The primary question is whether you need good
>> gaming performance, as # of pipes on modern cards aren't
>> very relevant to general purpose 2D use including VIVO uses.
>>

>
>




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