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Old 06-20-2007, 07:07 PM
Louis
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Default Problem installing latest drivers

Hello !

I'm reinstalling WinXP (Home) on a old P-III PC.

Motherboard is an Intel D815EEA (detailed specs can be found here :
http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/MB6922.htm).

I flashed the BIOS to the latest version (P11).

There's an integrated AGP 2x board using the Intel 82815 chipset.

My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
(package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
uses 32Mb of memory.

I tried with previous driver versions, and found that version 6.41
(winxp641 - published in september 2001) are the latest giving
something more acceptable : 1024x768 - 24 bit resolution. But, among
other differences, the advanced properties now indicate only 4Mb of
memory used. The driver revision is 6.13.1.2872.

I read the release notes of the version following that one, and found
nothing that could explain why it would no longer work. I meet the 128
Mb minimum memory requirements specified (the system has 384Mb).

There's nothing in the BIOS allowing to set the amount of memory
allowed to the graphics card.

Is there a logical explanation to all this ?

Thanks !



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Old 06-21-2007, 12:11 AM
paulmd@efn.org
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Default Re: Problem installing latest drivers

On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
> Hello !
>
> I'm reinstalling WinXP (Home) on a old P-III PC.
>
> Motherboard is an Intel D815EEA (detailed specs can be found here :http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/MB6922.htm).
>
> I flashed the BIOS to the latest version (P11).
>
> There's an integrated AGP 2x board using the Intel 82815 chipset.
>
> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
> uses 32Mb of memory.
>
> I tried with previous driver versions, and found that version 6.41
> (winxp641 - published in september 2001) are the latest giving
> something more acceptable : 1024x768 - 24 bit resolution. But, among
> other differences, the advanced properties now indicate only 4Mb of
> memory used. The driver revision is 6.13.1.2872.
>
> I read the release notes of the version following that one, and found
> nothing that could explain why it would no longer work. I meet the 128
> Mb minimum memory requirements specified (the system has 384Mb).
>
> There's nothing in the BIOS allowing to set the amount of memory
> allowed to the graphics card.
>
> Is there a logical explanation to all this ?
>
> Thanks !


Should be a regular intel 815 intergated video.

try this for the video.

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...5&submit=Go%21


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Old 06-21-2007, 01:02 AM
Louis
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Default Re: Problem installing latest Intel 82815 graphics drivers

paulmd@efn.org avait soumis l'idée :
> On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
>> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
>> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
>> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
>> uses 32Mb of memory.
>>

>
> Should be a regular intel 815 intergated video.
>
> try this for the video.
>
> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...5&submit=Go%21


Thanks for your reply, but you are pointing me to the same 6.7 package
that failed to work correctly.. I tried with both win2k_xpm67.exe and
win2k_xp67.zip got the same result.

Any idea ?



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Old 06-21-2007, 02:12 AM
paulmd@efn.org
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Default Re: Problem installing latest Intel 82815 graphics drivers

On Jun 20, 6:02 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
> pau...@efn.org avait soumis l'idée :
>
> > On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:

>
> >> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
> >> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
> >> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
> >> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
> >> uses 32Mb of memory.

>
> > Should be a regular intel 815 intergated video.

>
> > try this for the video.

>
> >http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...Types=all&Prod....

>
> Thanks for your reply, but you are pointing me to the same 6.7 package
> that failed to work correctly.. I tried with both win2k_xpm67.exe and
> win2k_xp67.zip got the same result.
>
> Any idea ?


Unless the video chip itself is damaged, no, not really.

XP's default drivers should work just fine with the i815. An while the
chip is not a wonder of performance, it rarely fails.

I will add, though that with 32 mb integrated video, and 128mb of
total ram, you fall below the 128 mb minimum for XP. Integrated video
(in this generation) steals from the system memory, so in reality you
have 128-32=96mb ram.

Workaround may be to get a cheepie video card, which will have the
side effect of freeing up some ram.

Going back to the previous bios may work, but intel's website really
only supplies the latest.

Double check that your board is a d815eea, and not, for example a
d815eea2, as a bios update intended for a different motherboard may
cause problems such as yours.



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Old 06-21-2007, 02:37 AM
Louis
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Default Re: Problem installing latest Intel 82815 graphics drivers

paulmd@efn.org a formulé la demande :
> On Jun 20, 6:02 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
>> pau...@efn.org avait soumis l'idée :
>>
>>> On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
>>>> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
>>>> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
>>>> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
>>>> uses 32Mb of memory.

>>
>>> Should be a regular intel 815 intergated video.
>>> try this for the video.

>>
>>> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...Types=all&Prod...

>>
>> Thanks for your reply, but you are pointing me to the same 6.7 package
>> that failed to work correctly.. I tried with both win2k_xpm67.exe and
>> win2k_xp67.zip got the same result.
>>
>> Any idea ?

>
> Unless the video chip itself is damaged, no, not really.
>
> XP's default drivers should work just fine with the i815. An while the
> chip is not a wonder of performance, it rarely fails.
>
> I will add, though that with 32 mb integrated video, and 128mb of
> total ram, you fall below the 128 mb minimum for XP. Integrated video
> (in this generation) steals from the system memory, so in reality you
> have 128-32=96mb ram.
>
> Workaround may be to get a cheepie video card, which will have the
> side effect of freeing up some ram.
>
> Going back to the previous bios may work, but intel's website really
> only supplies the latest.
>
> Double check that your board is a d815eea, and not, for example a
> d815eea2, as a bios update intended for a different motherboard may
> cause problems such as yours.


Thanks again for you reply..

My current total RAM is 384 Mb - so stealing 32mb should not be a
problem, don't you agree ?

I have on file the P10 and P09 bios, but they don't change anything as
far as the AGP card is concerned.

My mobo is really an d815eea.. unfortunalety. :-(

As for defective chipset, I doubt that it would work correctly with
driver package version 6.41 if it was the case.

Finally, as you suggested, I also tried to put an old nVidia TNT2
Vanta-LT 8Mb 2x AGP card, but surprisingly (or not ?) I felt it had a
slightly slower performance than the onboard card.

Even with the best will, I think you'll agree it doesn't worth spending
more time on this issue - since I have a working solution - even if I
do not understand why the latest drivers are not working at all..

Thanks again



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Old 06-21-2007, 06:38 AM
paulmd@efn.org
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Default Re: Problem installing latest Intel 82815 graphics drivers

On Jun 20, 7:37 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
> pau...@efn.org a formulé la demande :
>
>
>
> > On Jun 20, 6:02 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> pau...@efn.org avait soumis l'idée :

>
> >>> On Jun 20, 12:07 pm, Louis <L...@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>>> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
> >>>> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
> >>>> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
> >>>> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
> >>>> uses 32Mb of memory.

>
> >>> Should be a regular intel 815 intergated video.
> >>> try this for the video.

>
> >>>http://downloadcenter.intel.com/filt...Types=all&Prod...

>
> >> Thanks for your reply, but you are pointing me to the same 6.7 package
> >> that failed to work correctly.. I tried with both win2k_xpm67.exe and
> >> win2k_xp67.zip got the same result.

>
> >> Any idea ?

>
> > Unless the video chip itself is damaged, no, not really.

>
> > XP's default drivers should work just fine with the i815. An while the
> > chip is not a wonder of performance, it rarely fails.

>
> > I will add, though that with 32 mb integrated video, and 128mb of
> > total ram, you fall below the 128 mb minimum for XP. Integrated video
> > (in this generation) steals from the system memory, so in reality you
> > have 128-32=96mb ram.

>
> > Workaround may be to get a cheepie video card, which will have the
> > side effect of freeing up some ram.

>
> > Going back to the previous bios may work, but intel's website really
> > only supplies the latest.

>
> > Double check that your board is a d815eea, and not, for example a
> > d815eea2, as a bios update intended for a different motherboard may
> > cause problems such as yours.

>
> Thanks again for you reply..
>
> My current total RAM is 384 Mb - so stealing 32mb should not be a
> problem, don't you agree ?
>
> I have on file the P10 and P09 bios, but they don't change anything as
> far as the AGP card is concerned.
>
> My mobo is really an d815eea.. unfortunalety. :-(
>
> As for defective chipset, I doubt that it would work correctly with
> driver package version 6.41 if it was the case.
>
> Finally, as you suggested, I also tried to put an old nVidia TNT2
> Vanta-LT 8Mb 2x AGP card, but surprisingly (or not ?) I felt it had a
> slightly slower performance than the onboard card.


XP's built in driver for vanta and riva cards is not great as it seems
not to have the proper support for directx.

One of the archived vNidia drivers works better (66.9something). It
was dropped from the later revisions. The one supplied by windows
update is a bad one. Don't use it!

>
> Even with the best will, I think you'll agree it doesn't worth spending
> more time on this issue - since I have a working solution - even if I
> do not understand why the latest drivers are not working at all..
>
> Thanks again


If you have a workaround, use it. I wouldn't put too much money into a
pentuim 3 class machine. As a similar machine could be had for less
than $100.





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Old 06-21-2007, 03:20 PM
Mike Walsh
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Default Re: Problem installing latest drivers


4 MB is adequate for 2D operation. 1024 x 768 at 24 bit color requires only 2.25 MB. With most video drivers more memory will be automatically allocated as needed for 3D operation.

Louis wrote:
>
> Hello !
>
> I'm reinstalling WinXP (Home) on a old P-III PC.
>
> Motherboard is an Intel D815EEA (detailed specs can be found here :
> http://www.aberdeeninc.com/abcatg/MB6922.htm).
>
> I flashed the BIOS to the latest version (P11).
>
> There's an integrated AGP 2x board using the Intel 82815 chipset.
>
> My problem is, if I download the latest Intel drivers for that chipset
> (package version 6.7, file win2K_xp67), the integrated AGP doesn't work
> correctly. It has a maximum resolution of 800x600 - 4 bit colors !!
> As additional info, the card's advanced properties indicate that it
> uses 32Mb of memory.
>
> I tried with previous driver versions, and found that version 6.41
> (winxp641 - published in september 2001) are the latest giving
> something more acceptable : 1024x768 - 24 bit resolution. But, among
> other differences, the advanced properties now indicate only 4Mb of
> memory used. The driver revision is 6.13.1.2872.
>
> I read the release notes of the version following that one, and found
> nothing that could explain why it would no longer work. I meet the 128
> Mb minimum memory requirements specified (the system has 384Mb).
>
> There's nothing in the BIOS allowing to set the amount of memory
> allowed to the graphics card.
>
> Is there a logical explanation to all this ?
>
> Thanks !


--
Mike Walsh
West Palm Beach, Florida, U.S.A.

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Old 06-22-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Problem installing latest drivers

Louis wrote:
>
> I'm reinstalling WinXP (Home) on a old P-III PC.
>
> I flashed the BIOS to the latest version (P11).


What exact reason did you take the chance of flashing your bios? What
exactly was the problem you were trying to fix?

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Old 06-22-2007, 01:09 AM
Louis
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Default Re: Problem installing latest drivers

Plato a couché sur son écran :
> Louis wrote:
>>
>> I'm reinstalling WinXP (Home) on a old P-III PC.
>>
>> I flashed the BIOS to the latest version (P11).

>
> What exact reason did you take the chance of flashing your bios? What
> exactly was the problem you were trying to fix?


Euhhh.. had a non working AGP driver.. Is this enough ?

I know "If it works, don't fix it" -- but if it doesn't work... what
else are you suggesting ?

Just curious...



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