What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup Hub in
terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router currently, a
friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The extra ports would be
nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or anything. Before I start
disconnecting my home network, can this hub be used in place of my router?
I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my network, would be nice to be able
to add my other PC and laptop without having to constantly switch cables.
"Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
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> What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup Hub
> in terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router currently, a
> friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The extra ports would be
> nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or anything. Before I start
> disconnecting my home network, can this hub be used in place of my router?
> I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my network, would be nice to be
> able to add my other PC and laptop without having to constantly switch
> cables.
A hub and a router are NOTHING like each other.
If you need more ports, plug the 8 port hub into one of the ports on your
router.
Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I looked
at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and all, heh.
Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable do? I know
next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and thanks for
helping.
"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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>
> "Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:6aq%e.31238$nq.18546@lakeread05...
>> What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup Hub
>> in terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router currently, a
>> friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The extra ports would
>> be nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or anything. Before I start
>> disconnecting my home network, can this hub be used in place of my
>> router? I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my network, would be nice
>> to be able to add my other PC and laptop without having to constantly
>> switch cables.
>
> A hub and a router are NOTHING like each other.
>
> If you need more ports, plug the 8 port hub into one of the ports on your
> router.
>
"Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I
> looked at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and
> all, heh. Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable
> do? I know next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and
> thanks for helping.
>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:9Dq%e.16949$1i.14723@pd7tw2no...
>>
>> "Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
>> news:6aq%e.31238$nq.18546@lakeread05...
>>> What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup
>>> Hub in terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router
>>> currently, a friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The extra
>>> ports would be nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or anything.
>>> Before I start disconnecting my home network, can this hub be used in
>>> place of my router? I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my network,
>>> would be nice to be able to add my other PC and laptop without having to
>>> constantly switch cables.
>>
>> A hub and a router are NOTHING like each other.
>>
>> If you need more ports, plug the 8 port hub into one of the ports on your
>> router.
>>
>
In simple words, a hub is a "stupid" multi connection box that transfers all
incoming signals to all ports. It's the receiver that decide if the signal
is intended for him.
A router has build-in intelligence and knows what signal is for who. It
transmits the signal only to the appropriate destination. It also manages IP
adresses behind it, so from your provider, you only need one IP, being that
of the router. With a hub, each PC will need an IP from the provider. One of
the other advantages of a router is that most of them have internal hardware
protection (firewall).
Many also have a printer port allowing you to share a printer. So, if you
want to build a home network, you should go for a router. Actually, they are
(relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more connections than your
router has, you could add a hub behind the router.
Smith wrote:
> Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I looked
> at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and all, heh.
> Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable do? I know
> next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and thanks for
> helping.
There may be an "uplink" port on the hub, which may be activated with a
small switch next to it. Run your cable from that port to a normal port
on the router.
The "uplink" port acts as a bridge. A bridge, or some sort of emulation, is required to connect two subnets together. The best solution might be to get a wireless router, especially since you have laptops. It would be nice if you could find an inexpensive wireless router with more than four ports, but I haven't seen any.
Grinder wrote:
>
> Smith wrote:
> > Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I looked
> > at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and all, heh.
> > Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable do? I know
> > next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and thanks for
> > helping.
>
> There may be an "uplink" port on the hub, which may be activated with a
> small switch next to it. Run your cable from that port to a normal port
> on the router.
>> So, if you want to build a home network, you should go for a router.
Actually, they are (relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more
connections than your router has, you could add a hub behind the router. <<
That's what I'm doing :) So with it connected to the router I won't have to
purchase another IP from my ISP will I?
"ElJerid" <s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote in message
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>
> "Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:I1r%e.31239$nq.13642@lakeread05...
>> Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I
>> looked at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and
>> all, heh. Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable
>> do? I know next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and
>> thanks for helping.
>>
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:9Dq%e.16949$1i.14723@pd7tw2no...
>>>
>>> "Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
>>> news:6aq%e.31238$nq.18546@lakeread05...
>>>> What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup
>>>> Hub in terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router
>>>> currently, a friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The
>>>> extra ports would be nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or
>>>> anything. Before I start disconnecting my home network, can this hub be
>>>> used in place of my router? I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my
>>>> network, would be nice to be able to add my other PC and laptop without
>>>> having to constantly switch cables.
>>>
>>> A hub and a router are NOTHING like each other.
>>>
>>> If you need more ports, plug the 8 port hub into one of the ports on
>>> your router.
>>>
>>
> In simple words, a hub is a "stupid" multi connection box that transfers
> all incoming signals to all ports. It's the receiver that decide if the
> signal is intended for him.
> A router has build-in intelligence and knows what signal is for who. It
> transmits the signal only to the appropriate destination. It also manages
> IP adresses behind it, so from your provider, you only need one IP, being
> that of the router. With a hub, each PC will need an IP from the provider.
> One of the other advantages of a router is that most of them have internal
> hardware protection (firewall).
> Many also have a printer port allowing you to share a printer. So, if you
> want to build a home network, you should go for a router. Actually, they
> are (relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more connections than
> your router has, you could add a hub behind the router.
>
I also have an uplink port on the router, I wouldn't connect the two uplink
ports?
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
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> Smith wrote:
>> Okay, I figured that was what needed to be done since after posting I
>> looked at it some more and realized the hub had no port for the modem and
>> all, heh. Would I need to use a cross-over cable or would a patch cable
>> do? I know next to nothing about networking, sorry for sounding dumb and
>> thanks for helping.
>
> There may be an "uplink" port on the hub, which may be activated with a
> small switch next to it. Run your cable from that port to a normal port
> on the router.
"Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
news:uyC%e.188351$084.178249@attbi_s22...
> Smith wrote:
>>>>So, if you want to build a home network, you should go for a router.
>>
>> Actually, they are (relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more
>> connections than your router has, you could add a hub behind the router.
>> <<
>>
>> That's what I'm doing :) So with it connected to the router I won't have
>> to purchase another IP from my ISP will I?
>
> No, they won't really be able to tell its there.
Smith wrote:
>>>So, if you want to build a home network, you should go for a router.
>
> Actually, they are (relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more
> connections than your router has, you could add a hub behind the router. <<
>
> That's what I'm doing :) So with it connected to the router I won't have to
> purchase another IP from my ISP will I?
If you just want the computers to be able to trade files with each other
than the 8-port workgroup Hub will suffice. HOWEVER, if you wan the
connected computers to be able to access the Internet then the Hub is of no
use and you MUST use a Router. Linksys and others make 8-port Routers for
~$100.
--
DaveW
__________
"Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
news:6aq%e.31238$nq.18546@lakeread05...
> What's the difference between a 4-port Router and an 8-port Workgroup Hub
> in terms of home networking? I have a 4-port Linksys Router currently, a
> friend gave me a Linksys 8-port "Workgroup Hub." The extra ports would be
> nice, but it looks different, no setup CD or anything. Before I start
> disconnecting my home network, can this hub be used in place of my router?
> I currently have 3 PC's and a laptop on my network, would be nice to be
> able to add my other PC and laptop without having to constantly switch
> cables.
>
> Thanks.
>
"Smith" <rangerxlt92@cox.net> wrote in message
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> Okay, thanks, hook up time now.
>
> Smith
>
> "Grinder" <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote in message
> news:uyC%e.188351$084.178249@attbi_s22...
>> Smith wrote:
>>>>>So, if you want to build a home network, you should go for a router.
>>>
>>> Actually, they are (relatively) very cheap. If your want to add more
>>> connections than your router has, you could add a hub behind the router.
>>> <<
>>>
>>> That's what I'm doing :) So with it connected to the router I won't
>>> have to purchase another IP from my ISP will I?
>>
>> No, they won't really be able to tell its there.
>
From the ISP site, they only see the routers' IP address. All what's behind
the router is local network where the IP addresses are assigned by the
router (automatically or manually, depending of the router's settings).
Yeah, hooked it up yesterday, connection is great through the hub linked to
the router. It assigned them auto.
Thanks for the help all :)
"ElJerid" <s.vanderhaeghen@pandora.be> wrote in message
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> From the ISP site, they only see the routers' IP address. All what's
> behind the router is local network where the IP addresses are assigned by
> the router (automatically or manually, depending of the router's
> settings).
Router and Hub? 
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