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Old 12-02-2006, 01:01 AM
george
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Default Simple Networking

Hi All
With my recently resurgent interest in computing, I would like to attempt to
connect my 2 pcs at home wirelessly, so that they both share and have access
to my broadband connection at all times and they are indepebdent - i.e. they
don't both need to be switched on. What gear do I need? My initial
thoughts are that I would connect my dsl modem to a hub/router and then have
pcs
connected to it with two wireless receivers...Any ideas/suggestions?
George



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Old 12-02-2006, 01:22 AM
Gazwad
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george <NOSPAM@btinternet.com>, the farting-deadbeat and nasty himmer
who likes erotic relaxation rubdowns with lampreys, and whose partner is
a nymphet with a dilapidated snutch, wrote in
<1YOdnVFl-t3wTe3YnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com>:
> Hi All
> With my recently resurgent interest in computing, I would like to
> attempt to connect my 2 pcs at home wirelessly, so that they both
> share and have access to my broadband connection at all times and
> they are indepebdent - i.e. they don't both need to be switched on.
> What gear do I need? My initial thoughts are that I would connect my dsl
> modem to a hub/router and
> then have pcs
> connected to it with two wireless receivers...Any ideas/suggestions?
> George


Your first thought was more or less on the nose if you had NTL or similar.
Don't buy any cheap shit, you'll waste your money. I always use Netgear
equipment.
If you're using btinternet then you'll want an ADSL router, chuck the modem
in a drawer somewhere and forget about it.
Range, speed, reliability? Go for the Rangemax equipment and you'll find you
don't have many problems unless you live in somewhere large or with thick
walls full of wires, steel and other shit.
If you live in a hovel then go for the slower, shorter range equipment and
save yourself about £30, argos are doing pretty good deals right now, don't
forget you £10 voucher.



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impossible to adapt to language. These fancies arise in the soul, alas
how rarely. Only at epochs of most intense tranquillity, when the
bodily and mental health are in perfection. And at those weird points
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is but a dream within a dream.


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Old 12-02-2006, 02:03 AM
Rod Speed
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george <NOSPAM@btinternet.com> wrote

> With my recently resurgent interest in computing, I would like to attempt to connect my 2 pcs at
> home wirelessly, so that they both share and have access to my broadband connection at all times
> and they are indepebdent - i.e. they don't both need to be switched on. What gear do I need?


The simplest approach is to get an dsl wireless modem/router
and use that with a wireless USB device on each PC.

> My initial thoughts are that I would connect my dsl modem to a hub/router and then have pcs
> connected to it with two wireless receivers...


You can use the existing dsl modem, but a full wireless
dsl modem/router is now so cheap that its easier to just
replace the existing dsl modem with a wireless capable one.

Worth considering if you want to get a voip capable dsl wireless modem/router too.

> Any ideas/suggestions?




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Old 12-03-2006, 11:58 PM
DaveW
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You will need a wireless ROUTER (NOT hub) and PCI wireless cards for your
computers.

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"george" <NOSPAM@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1YOdnVFl-t3wTe3YnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com...
> Hi All
> With my recently resurgent interest in computing, I would like to attempt
> to
> connect my 2 pcs at home wirelessly, so that they both share and have
> access
> to my broadband connection at all times and they are indepebdent - i.e.
> they don't both need to be switched on. What gear do I need? My initial
> thoughts are that I would connect my dsl modem to a hub/router and then
> have pcs
> connected to it with two wireless receivers...Any ideas/suggestions?
> George
>
>




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Old 12-04-2006, 07:36 AM
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On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 15:58:39 -0800, "DaveW"
<somewhere@zero.org> wrote:

>You will need a wireless ROUTER (NOT hub) and PCI wireless cards for your
>computers.



Depends on what the modem capabilities are. Some popular
modems have a DHCP server built in for NAT. If you hook
that modem up to a hub, or in this case to an access point
that both wireless systems can *see*, the additional router
may not be necessary.

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Old 12-04-2006, 05:31 PM
Grinder
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kony wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 15:58:39 -0800, "DaveW"
> <somewhere@zero.org> wrote:
>
>> You will need a wireless ROUTER (NOT hub) and PCI wireless cards for your
>> computers.

>
>
> Depends on what the modem capabilities are. Some popular
> modems have a DHCP server built in for NAT. If you hook
> that modem up to a hub, or in this case to an access point
> that both wireless systems can *see*, the additional router
> may not be necessary.


That's a reasonable consideration. I would recommend that if you are
thinking about a hub in the above scenario, you spend the extra $2 and
get a switch instead.

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Old 12-05-2006, 02:25 PM
Raymond Martineau
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On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:36:13 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 15:58:39 -0800, "DaveW"
><somewhere@zero.org> wrote:
>
>>You will need a wireless ROUTER (NOT hub) and PCI wireless cards for your
>>computers.

>
>
>Depends on what the modem capabilities are. Some popular
>modems have a DHCP server built in for NAT. If you hook
>that modem up to a hub, or in this case to an access point
>that both wireless systems can *see*, the additional router
>may not be necessary.


While experienced users may be able to tell whether or not these
modems have DHCP suppoer, others do not.

I would recommend getting a wireless router anyway - if it turns out
that the modem does have DHCP support, you can connect the modem to
the LAN port of the router - and it will behave in the same way as a
switch. It also may be the only option in some cases when you may have
difficulty finding a switch by itself.


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Old 12-06-2006, 03:40 AM
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On Tue, 05 Dec 2006 09:25:31 -0500, Raymond Martineau
<bk039@freenet.carleton.ca> wrote:

>On Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:36:13 -0500, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 15:58:39 -0800, "DaveW"
>><somewhere@zero.org> wrote:
>>
>>>You will need a wireless ROUTER (NOT hub) and PCI wireless cards for your
>>>computers.

>>
>>
>>Depends on what the modem capabilities are. Some popular
>>modems have a DHCP server built in for NAT. If you hook
>>that modem up to a hub, or in this case to an access point
>>that both wireless systems can *see*, the additional router
>>may not be necessary.

>
>While experienced users may be able to tell whether or not these
>modems have DHCP suppoer, others do not.
>


It should be a listed feature in the modem manual, or a
Google search might find that info, or it might be listed on
the modem's configuration and information browser interface
page.


>I would recommend getting a wireless router anyway - if it turns out
>that the modem does have DHCP support, you can connect the modem to
>the LAN port of the router - and it will behave in the same way as a
>switch. It also may be the only option in some cases when you may have
>difficulty finding a switch by itself.


??

There is no difficulty in finding a switch by itself,
they're common as dirt.

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Old 12-09-2006, 08:39 PM
Richard Sharma
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Hi,

The are choices here and it all depends on financial, the way i have my
setup is a wireless modem with wpa2 security and all compuers assigned ip by
modem therefore i can connect to other computers by just obtaining the ip
address from the modem and connect. ofcourse all computers should be able to
see each other if they are all joined to a single workgroup.

"george" <NOSPAM@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:1YOdnVFl-t3wTe3YnZ2dnUVZ8sednZ2d@bt.com...
> Hi All
> With my recently resurgent interest in computing, I would like to attempt

to
> connect my 2 pcs at home wirelessly, so that they both share and have

access
> to my broadband connection at all times and they are indepebdent - i.e.

they
> don't both need to be switched on. What gear do I need? My initial
> thoughts are that I would connect my dsl modem to a hub/router and then

have
> pcs
> connected to it with two wireless receivers...Any ideas/suggestions?
> George
>
>




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