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Old 07-20-2007, 08:28 PM
Skeleton Man
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Default Skinny security drivers

Hi guys,

I have a set of like 20 different security bits to open almost anything, but
I keep running into the problem of the bit not fitting in the hole ! This
happens with normal drivers too obviously, but I can easily pick up a long
skinny phillips driver. I don't have any actual security drivers, just the
magnetic bits (and they're often too fat to fit in the hole).

Is it possible to get long skinny security bits or drivers ? I have a
magnetic phillips bit that's like 5 inches long (came in my toolkit) and I'd
love to have more bits like this.

Even if I could just find a skinny set of security torx drivers I'd be
happy.. I dunno why they need those things really (regular torx is obscure
enough to keep the average joe from tampering with things).

Has anyone ever tried drilling a center hole in a regular torx driver and
making their own secure torx driver ?

Chris



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Old 07-20-2007, 08:54 PM
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"Skeleton Man" <invalid@guestwho.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> I have a set of like 20 different security bits to open almost anything,
> but
> I keep running into the problem of the bit not fitting in the hole ! This
> happens with normal drivers too obviously, but I can easily pick up a long
> skinny phillips driver. I don't have any actual security drivers, just the
> magnetic bits (and they're often too fat to fit in the hole).


Google and eBay... Two underutilized resources.



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Old 07-21-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: Skinny security drivers

>Google and eBay... Two underutilized resources

Both of those are great for finding 50 different people selling the *bits*.
I want the actual drivers and the closest I found is allen wrenches with
secure torx end, which would also be too large to fit what I want. You ever
think that maybe, just maybe I did some searching first and *then* posted
here to see if anyone else had run into the issue ? (I'm not an idiot and
don't appreicate being treated as such)

Chris



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Old 07-21-2007, 04:45 AM
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Default Re: Skinny security drivers

Skeleton Man wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a set of like 20 different security bits to open almost anything, but
> I keep running into the problem of the bit not fitting in the hole ! This
> happens with normal drivers too obviously, but I can easily pick up a long
> skinny phillips driver. I don't have any actual security drivers, just the
> magnetic bits (and they're often too fat to fit in the hole).
>
> Is it possible to get long skinny security bits or drivers ? I have a
> magnetic phillips bit that's like 5 inches long (came in my toolkit) and I'd
> love to have more bits like this.
>
> Even if I could just find a skinny set of security torx drivers I'd be
> happy.. I dunno why they need those things really (regular torx is obscure
> enough to keep the average joe from tampering with things).
>
> Has anyone ever tried drilling a center hole in a regular torx driver and
> making their own secure torx driver ?
>
> Chris
>
>


Maybe you could contact someone here, and find what you want. If
what you currently own, is a short tip suitable for a magnetic
holder, the holder is probably too fat for reaching into
deep holes. You'd probably want something with a longer shaft
and separate handle system.

http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm
http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/281...loc_Blades.htm

Paul

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Old 07-21-2007, 05:03 AM
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Default Re: Skinny security drivers

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:17:11 -0400, "Skeleton Man"
<invalid@guestwho.com> wrote:

>>Google and eBay... Two underutilized resources

>
>Both of those are great for finding 50 different people selling the *bits*.
>I want the actual drivers and the closest I found is allen wrenches with
>secure torx end, which would also be too large to fit what I want. You ever
>think that maybe, just maybe I did some searching first and *then* posted
>here to see if anyone else had run into the issue ? (I'm not an idiot and
>don't appreicate being treated as such)
>
>Chris
>

http://www.bgmicro.com/index.asp?Pag...D&ProdID=11188
http://www.bluemax.net/products/Cabl...rewdrivers.htm
http://www.mbelectronics.com/view.aspx?id=98
http://cgi.ebay.com/6-Torx-Screwdriv...ayphotohosting


http://cgi.ebay.com/9-x-T-HANDLE-TAM...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com/Security-Torx-wr...QQcmdZViewItem
http://www.wihatools.com/100seri/111TRser.htm
http://www.wihatools.com/300seri/363TRpstar.htm
http://www.wihatools.com/700seri/757TRser.htm
http://www.aimelectronics.com/produc...rewdrivers.htm
http://www.lashen.com/vendors/Cooper...rewdrivers.asp
http://www.zdmak.com/wbstore/main.as...CTMP=1&LowCt=0

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Old 07-21-2007, 09:21 AM
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"Skeleton Man" <invalid@guestwho.com> wrote in message
news:f_2dnWJinoEM0jzbnZ2dnUVZ_jSdnZ2d@wightman.ca. ..
> >Google and eBay... Two underutilized resources

>
> Both of those are great for finding 50 different people selling the
> *bits*.
> I want the actual drivers and the closest I found is allen wrenches with
> secure torx end, which would also be too large to fit what I want. You
> ever
> think that maybe, just maybe I did some searching first and *then* posted
> here to see if anyone else had run into the issue ? (I'm not an idiot and
> don't appreicate being treated as such)


Well, if you weren't an idiot you would have mentioned that you weren't
having any luck with Google or eBay. That way someone might have suggested
some keywords to search on.



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Old 07-21-2007, 08:11 PM
Skeleton Man
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>Maybe you could contact someone here, and find what you want. If
>what you currently own, is a short tip suitable for a magnetic
>holder, the holder is probably too fat for reaching into
>deep holes. You'd probably want something with a longer shaft
>and separate handle system.


Yes! That is exactly my problem ! Actually, even the bits themselves are too
fat.

>http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm
>http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/281...loc_Blades.htm


These look good, I'll have to check what the diameter is, because they sound
like they're the same width as a normal magnetic bit, just 5 inches longer.

To Kony:

Thanks for the list, the ebay ones are a no-go for security torx because
only the short end is drilled (the longer shaft I would need is not drilled
for secure torx). The other sets and the folding tools look like a good
possibility.

Chris



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Old 07-21-2007, 08:13 PM
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Default Re: Skinny security drivers

>Well, if you weren't an idiot you would have mentioned that you weren't
>having any luck with Google or eBay. That way someone might have suggested
>some keywords to search on.


If *you* weren't an idiot you would have assumed that I was posting here
because I'd already tried the two most common resources with little success.

Chris



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Old 07-22-2007, 12:40 AM
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:11:32 -0400, "Skeleton Man"
<invalid@guestwho.com> wrote:

>>Maybe you could contact someone here, and find what you want. If
>>what you currently own, is a short tip suitable for a magnetic
>>holder, the holder is probably too fat for reaching into
>>deep holes. You'd probably want something with a longer shaft
>>and separate handle system.

>
>Yes! That is exactly my problem ! Actually, even the bits themselves are too
>fat.
>
>>http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm
>>http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/281...loc_Blades.htm

>
>These look good, I'll have to check what the diameter is, because they sound
>like they're the same width as a normal magnetic bit, just 5 inches longer.
>
>To Kony:
>
>Thanks for the list, the ebay ones are a no-go for security torx because
>only the short end is drilled (the longer shaft I would need is not drilled
>for secure torx). The other sets and the folding tools look like a good
>possibility.



You might also try your local hardware store or Sears/etc.
There are also probably some sets at the various online tool
and supplier sites like McMaster-Carr,

http://www.mcmaster.com/ctlg/DisplCt...CtlgPgNbr=2768

Whether these have the longer ends drilled out, I don't
know. Odds are fair that a lot of the sets you'd find are
the same thing made in China distributed under different
names. Speaking of cheap Chinese tools you might also check
at http://www.harborfreight.com , if you don't have a local
B&M HF.

Another option is the yellow pages, if you live anywhere
near a larger town there is probably a tool supplier within
driving
distance.http://cgi.ebay.com/7-S-K-FACOM-SECU...QQcmdZViewItem



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Old 07-23-2007, 01:55 AM
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"Strobe" <Strobe@nyc.Beep!Beep!.com> wrote in message
news:mqj7a31lo6dmf1ou5gpp8aqhg926q8e3ir@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 19:40:41 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:11:32 -0400, "Skeleton Man"
>><invalid@guestwho.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>Maybe you could contact someone here, and find what you want. If
>>>>what you currently own, is a short tip suitable for a magnetic
>>>>holder, the holder is probably too fat for reaching into
>>>>deep holes. You'd probably want something with a longer shaft
>>>>and separate handle system.
>>>
>>>Yes! That is exactly my problem ! Actually, even the bits themselves are
>>>too
>>>fat.
>>>
>>>>http://www.wihatools.com/indexes/indxSecuritytorx.htm
>>>>http://www.wihatools.com/200seri/281...loc_Blades.htm
>>>
>>>These look good, I'll have to check what the diameter is, because they
>>>sound
>>>like they're the same width as a normal magnetic bit, just 5 inches
>>>longer.


http://www.amazon.com/Northern-Indus.../dp/B0000CH42P

Most of them are normal size, but there are a few slimmer bits as well.

How long do you need them? How about these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Tamper-Secur...QQcmdZViewItem





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Old 07-26-2007, 04:51 AM
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Skeleton Man wrote:
> > Well, if you weren't an idiot you would have mentioned that you
> > weren't having any luck with Google or eBay. That way someone might
> > have suggested some keywords to search on.

>
> If *you* weren't an idiot you would have assumed that I was posting
> here because I'd already tried the two most common resources with
> little success.
>
> Chris


Untangle your tits Chris. With the amount of Googletards posting to
newsgroups these days you can pretty much take it as read that, anyone
asking a question, this is their first stop *unless they mention otherwise*.

Way to go, alienate the people you're asking for help from.

BTW, your post is off-topic for this group. That fact alone is reason enough
to presume that you don't know what you're doing.
--
Shaun.



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Old 08-16-2007, 09:33 PM
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Skeleton Man;204743 Wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I have a set of like 20 different security bits to open almost
> anything, but
> I keep running into the problem of the bit not fitting in the hole !
> This
> happens with normal drivers too obviously, but I can easily pick up a
> long
> skinny phillips driver. I don't have any actual security drivers, just
> the
> magnetic bits (and they're often too fat to fit in the hole).
>
> Is it possible to get long skinny security bits or drivers ? I have a
> magnetic phillips bit that's like 5 inches long (came in my toolkit)
> and I'd
> love to have more bits like this.
>
> Even if I could just find a skinny set of security torx drivers I'd be
> happy.. I dunno why they need those things really (regular torx is
> obscure
> enough to keep the average joe from tampering with things).
>
> Has anyone ever tried drilling a center hole in a regular torx driver
> and
> making their own secure torx driver ?
>
> Chris

Hi, Chris

The srew mentioned is called Torx Plus, as you may know already. I´m
just going to open similar screws on my 320 GB Seagate External Drive. I
think I'll use my drill to open it. Only Special HW repair companies are
allowed to buy those screwdrivers! I´m an individual like you.

But why to open the case? Seagate wants disk/drive ONLY (without case)
for warranty repair. They´ll send me back a refurbished drive. When I
sent them an email I got an answer to use phone instead.

After reading some answers to your question I cannot understand the
HELP MENTALITY of people. Are they really willling to HELP you? Neither
this answer helps you, I know. But you know that somewhere in Nordic
countries is a friend with similar problem.

I build my first (quite simple) computer after working 25 years in EDP
business. The year was 1978. Just now I´m writing a program for a HDTV
USB stick.

"Nothing but Data Processing since 1953"



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Old 08-17-2007, 04:44 AM
kony
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On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:33:26 -0500, eerikki
<eerikki.2vfsqw@no.email.invalid> wrote:

>
>Skeleton Man;204743 Wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I have a set of like 20 different security bits to open almost
>> anything, but
>> I keep running into the problem of the bit not fitting in the hole !
>> This
>> happens with normal drivers too obviously, but I can easily pick up a
>> long
>> skinny phillips driver. I don't have any actual security drivers, just
>> the
>> magnetic bits (and they're often too fat to fit in the hole).
>>
>> Is it possible to get long skinny security bits or drivers ? I have a
>> magnetic phillips bit that's like 5 inches long (came in my toolkit)
>> and I'd
>> love to have more bits like this.
>>
>> Even if I could just find a skinny set of security torx drivers I'd be
>> happy.. I dunno why they need those things really (regular torx is
>> obscure
>> enough to keep the average joe from tampering with things).
>>
>> Has anyone ever tried drilling a center hole in a regular torx driver
>> and
>> making their own secure torx driver ?
>>
>> Chris

>Hi, Chris
>
>The srew mentioned is called Torx Plus, as you may know already.


No, it is not Torx Plus. Torx Plus differs in that the
star-shaped cutouts on the screw are more rectangular shaped
instead of rounded shape to allow for more driver torque.
Security Torx on the other hand, is the type with the stud
in the center of the screw and the need for a driver with a
corresponding hole in the center to accomodate this stud in
the screw.

>I´m
>just going to open similar screws on my 320 GB Seagate External Drive. I
>think I'll use my drill to open it. Only Special HW repair companies are
>allowed to buy those screwdrivers! I´m an individual like you.


Nonsense, they're just a bit harder to find since fewer
things use them.

>
>But why to open the case? Seagate wants disk/drive ONLY (without case)
>for warranty repair. They´ll send me back a refurbished drive. When I
>sent them an email I got an answer to use phone instead.


??? He didn't say the purpose was opening a hard drive?


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