Slow Mouse Response

My 6 month old HP Pavilion with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz processor is very slow in
opening new applications. When I click on an icon on the desktop, start
menu, control panel, etc. there is nearly always a 10 second (sometimes
more) lag before the application opens. This is not new; it has always been
that way. When I first got it, I complained to HP support, but they
couldn't do anything, and even went so far on one occasion to tell me that a
10 second delay was normal. It surely isn't on my laptop (1 GHz or my
former computer). I don't have a lot of things in the start up program that
might cause this. And there is no lag when I use the keyboard program keys
to open an application such as Outlook Express or IE, or when I use the
"windows"
key to, for example, show desktop. It's only when I use
the mouse. I even tried a different mouse with USB connection. Nothing
seems to work. I'm not sure whether this is a hardware, software, or maybe
even a mouse problem, but it certainly is annoying! Anyone have any
suggestions about what I might do to fix this?

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:49:37 GMT As Androids Dreamed Of Electric Sheep
and then "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com> wrote :

>My 6 month old HP Pavilion with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz processor is very slow in
>opening new applications. When I click on an icon on the desktop, start
>menu, control panel, etc. there is nearly always a 10 second (sometimes
>more) lag before the application opens. This is not new; it has always been
>that way. When I first got it, I complained to HP support, but they
>couldn't do anything, and even went so far on one occasion to tell me that a
>10 second delay was normal. It surely isn't on my laptop (1 GHz or my
>former computer). I don't have a lot of things in the start up program that
>might cause this. And there is no lag when I use the keyboard program keys
>to open an application such as Outlook Express or IE, or when I use the
>"windows"
>key to, for example, show desktop. It's only when I use
>the mouse. I even tried a different mouse with USB connection. Nothing
>seems to work. I'm not sure whether this is a hardware, software, or maybe
>even a mouse problem, but it certainly is annoying! Anyone have any
>suggestions about what I might do to fix this?

You haven't mentioned one of the most important if parts of the
system.What O/S?????

Anyway,start here,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/house.html
Although originally for win95/98/ME it still carries though for Wn2k
and WinXP.

HTH :)



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">
> You haven't mentioned one of the most important if parts of the
> system.What O/S?????
>
oops, sorry. Windows XP Home Edition.

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Hi Bob. Can you please go to task manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del once) and
tell us the number of running processes you have? I suspect
adware/spyware/malware/bloatware infection.

"Random Person" <nonexistent2032@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi Bob. Can you please go to task manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del once) and
> tell us the number of running processes you have? I suspect
> adware/spyware/malware/bloatware infection.
>

There are 41 processes running now. Is that unusual?

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 02:40:13 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> Hi Bob. Can you please go to task manager (press Ctrl-Alt-Del once) and
>> tell us the number of running processes you have? I suspect
>> adware/spyware/malware/bloatware infection.

>There are 41 processes running now. Is that unusual?

Get Lavasoft Ad-Aware. It'll find the trojans
(adware/spyware/malware/bloatware). Then get Kerio Personal Firewall -
it will let you know who's trying to set up a network connection. Both
are free for home use.


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Hmm, I have 28 running processes and even then I'm doing some work at
the moment. Ad-aware doesn't get them all (e.g. bloatware), I'm afraid.

Can you take a look and see what your CPU and memory use is? If most of
your memory is free and your CPU is 99% free, then it is something
else...

Bob wrote:
> My 6 month old HP Pavilion with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz processor is very
> slow in opening new applications. When I click on an icon on the
> desktop, start menu, control panel, etc. there is nearly always a 10
> second (sometimes more) lag before the application opens. This is
> not new; it has always been that way. When I first got it, I
> complained to HP support, but they couldn't do anything, and even
> went so far on one occasion to tell me that a 10 second delay was
> normal. It surely isn't on my laptop (1 GHz or my former computer). I
> don't have a lot of things in the start up program that might cause
> this. And there is no lag when I use the keyboard program keys to
> open an application such as Outlook Express or IE, or when I use the
> "windows" key to, for example, show desktop. It's only when I use
> the mouse. I even tried a different mouse with USB connection.
> Nothing seems to work. I'm not sure whether this is a hardware,
> software, or maybe even a mouse problem, but it certainly is
> annoying! Anyone have any suggestions about what I might do to fix
> this?

Start here for improving slow performance:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/slowcom.htm

Q

>
> Get Lavasoft Ad-Aware. It'll find the trojans
> (adware/spyware/malware/bloatware). Then get Kerio Personal Firewall -
> it will let you know who's trying to set up a network connection. Both
> are free for home use.
>
I have Ad-Aware and run it two or three times a week. Doesn't make any
different in the response time.

"Random Person" <nonexistent2032@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1123296973.803435.255750@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hmm, I have 28 running processes and even then I'm doing some work at
> the moment. Ad-aware doesn't get them all (e.g. bloatware), I'm afraid.
>
> Can you take a look and see what your CPU and memory use is? If most of
> your memory is free and your CPU is 99% free, then it is something
> else...
>

CPU Usage is now alternating between 0 and 1%, occasionally 2%.

What about memory usage?

"I have Ad-Aware and run it two or three times a week. Doesn't make
any
different in the response time."

I used to use Ad-Aware, but I don't anymore. Just use the right browser
(Firefox) and don't download/run any dodgy stuff, and you'll be fine.

And for the record, some of the nastier stuff can not be removed by Ad
Aware.

"Random Person" <nonexistent2032@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1123338618.136684.37330@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> "I have Ad-Aware and run it two or three times a week. Doesn't make
> any
> different in the response time."
>
> I used to use Ad-Aware, but I don't anymore. Just use the right browser
> (Firefox) and don't download/run any dodgy stuff, and you'll be fine.
>
> And for the record, some of the nastier stuff can not be removed by Ad
> Aware.
>
Yes, I use Foxfire too, except in those few sites where Foxfire won't work.
I also occasionally use Microsoft's antispyware. As for your previous
question about memory usage, if you mean physical memory, total is 515372,
available is 216428, system cache is 301068. I'm still wondering if the
problem is really system performance as opposed to mouse performance (if
there is such a thing). When I use Windows key-D to get to desktop, it is
instantaneous. But when I use the mouse to click on the desktop icon in my
Quicklaunch toolbar, there is a 10 second lag. Same function, but different
results with different method.

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:03:17 GMT Operating Systems and Software are
not Religions "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com> wrote :

>
>"Random Person" <nonexistent2032@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1123338618.136684.37330@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>> "I have Ad-Aware and run it two or three times a week. Doesn't make
>> any
>> different in the response time."
>>
>> I used to use Ad-Aware, but I don't anymore. Just use the right browser
>> (Firefox) and don't download/run any dodgy stuff, and you'll be fine.
>>
>> And for the record, some of the nastier stuff can not be removed by Ad
>> Aware.
>>
>Yes, I use Foxfire too, except in those few sites where Foxfire won't work.
>I also occasionally use Microsoft's antispyware. As for your previous
>question about memory usage, if you mean physical memory, total is 515372,
>available is 216428, system cache is 301068. I'm still wondering if the
>problem is really system performance as opposed to mouse performance (if
>there is such a thing). When I use Windows key-D to get to desktop, it is
>instantaneous. But when I use the mouse to click on the desktop icon in my
>Quicklaunch toolbar, there is a 10 second lag. Same function, but different
>results with different method.

Anyway,start here,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/house.html
Although originally for win95/98/ME it still carries though for Wn2k
and WinXP.

HTH :)



--
Free Windows/PC help,
http://www.geocities.com/sheppola/trouble.html

> My 6 month old HP Pavilion with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz processor is very slow in
> opening new applications. When I click on an icon on the desktop, start
> menu, control panel, etc. there is nearly always a 10 second (sometimes
> more) lag before the application opens. This is not new; it has always been
> that way. When I first got it, I complained to HP support, but they
> couldn't do anything, and even went so far on one occasion to tell me that a
> 10 second delay was normal. It surely isn't on my laptop (1 GHz or my
> former computer). I don't have a lot of things in the start up program that
> might cause this. And there is no lag when I use the keyboard program keys
> to open an application such as Outlook Express or IE, or when I use the
> "windows"
> key to, for example, show desktop. It's only when I use
> the mouse. I even tried a different mouse with USB connection. Nothing
> seems to work. I'm not sure whether this is a hardware, software, or maybe
> even a mouse problem, but it certainly is annoying! Anyone have any
> suggestions about what I might do to fix this?
>
Given that you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread that you're pretty
much OK for malware and CPU usage, I'd be thinking about your graphics
card. Have you got the most appropriate drivers? (In that newer drivers
are sometimes optimised for newer cards and newer operating systems).
Try different drivers, reducing the colour depth of the desktop, turning
off Active Desktop and turning off the menu animations. If it helps,
then you can turn anything that you want back on again, and see which
things slow it down again.

HTH.

CK

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 20:49:37 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>My 6 month old HP Pavilion with Pentium 4 3.2 GHz processor is very slow in
>opening new applications. When I click on an icon on the desktop, start
>menu, control panel, etc. there is nearly always a 10 second (sometimes
>more) lag before the application opens. This is not new; it has always been
>that way. When I first got it, I complained to HP support, but they
>couldn't do anything, and even went so far on one occasion to tell me that a
>10 second delay was normal. It surely isn't on my laptop (1 GHz or my
>former computer). I don't have a lot of things in the start up program that
>might cause this. And there is no lag when I use the keyboard program keys
>to open an application such as Outlook Express or IE, or when I use the
>"windows"
>key to, for example, show desktop. It's only when I use
>the mouse. I even tried a different mouse with USB connection. Nothing
>seems to work. I'm not sure whether this is a hardware, software, or maybe
>even a mouse problem, but it certainly is annoying! Anyone have any
>suggestions about what I might do to fix this?


- Boot into safe mode to see if the lag persists.

- Do you have elaborate software suites installed that add
lots of items to file or folder context menus? For example,
Norton/Symantec or McAfree software? Any other kind of
realtime system "help" thing like from an OEM?

- Try disabling system restore (only temporarily as a test
if you want that feature)

- Defrag the hard drive

- Scan the hard drive with windows. If all else fails,
also run the HDD manufacturer's diagnostics on it.

- Bench the hard drive. ATTO, Sisoft Sandra, HDTach, are a
few (Google will find them).

- Check for Shared IRQs in Device Manager

- Usually the easiest way to regain the
performance/responsiveness your system was supposed to have,
is to wipe the system and install XP clean, NOT an OEM
image/configuration but from XP original installation files
then only adding standard (Non-OEM specific) things like the
newest stable drivers from the chipset manufacturers,
applications, etc, again trying to avoid Notron/McAfee/OEM
suites.

You might also run HijackThis (Google for it) to get a more
comprehensive view of what's loading, not just
spyware/viri/etc but the supposed-valid programs as well.

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 03:47:10 +0100, CK
<CatKiller@nospamplease.Bigfoot.com> wrote:

>Given that you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread that you're pretty
>much OK for malware and CPU usage, I'd be thinking about your graphics
>card. Have you got the most appropriate drivers? (In that newer drivers
>are sometimes optimised for newer cards and newer operating systems).
>Try different drivers, reducing the colour depth of the desktop, turning
>off Active Desktop and turning off the menu animations. If it helps,
>then you can turn anything that you want back on again, and see which
>things slow it down again.

But he said that there is no problem when he uses the KB. It's on;y
when he uses the mouse that he has a problem.

I would get a Microsoft Intellimouse (Directron $3) and install the MS
Intellimouse driver. If the problem persists, take it back and get a
full refund. Then buy a decent computer - one that works.


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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 03:37:07 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>- Boot into safe mode to see if the lag persists.
>
>- Do you have elaborate software suites installed that add
>lots of items to file or folder context menus? For example,
>Norton/Symantec or McAfree software? Any other kind of
>realtime system "help" thing like from an OEM?
>
>- Try disabling system restore (only temporarily as a test
>if you want that feature)
>
>- Defrag the hard drive
>
>- Scan the hard drive with windows. If all else fails,
>also run the HDD manufacturer's diagnostics on it.
>
>- Bench the hard drive. ATTO, Sisoft Sandra, HDTach, are a
>few (Google will find them).
>
>- Check for Shared IRQs in Device Manager
>
>- Usually the easiest way to regain the
>performance/responsiveness your system was supposed to have,
>is to wipe the system and install XP clean, NOT an OEM
>image/configuration but from XP original installation files
>then only adding standard (Non-OEM specific) things like the
>newest stable drivers from the chipset manufacturers,
>applications, etc, again trying to avoid Notron/McAfee/OEM
>suites.
>
>You might also run HijackThis (Google for it) to get a more
>comprehensive view of what's loading, not just
>spyware/viri/etc but the supposed-valid programs as well.

Aren't you overlooking the fact that when he uses the KB, there is no
performance delay. It's only when he uses the mouse that the delay
occurs.


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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 08:28:49 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:


>Aren't you overlooking the fact that when he uses the KB, there is no
>performance delay. It's only when he uses the mouse that the delay
>occurs.

I am intentionally overlooking it to the extent that once
the mouse has clicked it, which the system obviously
registers (lest it would never launch, instead of taking
longer) it should load faster. However I did also suggest
booting to safe mode and trying that, it was meant as a list
of several things to try, not only one thing. Once safe
mode has been tried the other variables are more likely,
such as things running in the background.

Further there was some presumption that after awhile the
obvious things such as a mouse driver would have been tried
already- I would expect anyone with a system problem to try
to fix it to a certain extent, wouldn't they?

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:07:31 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>I did also suggest
>booting to safe mode and trying that, it was meant as a list
>of several things to try, not only one thing.

I still don't understand. If he has no performance delay when he uses
the KB, but does when he uses the mouse, would that not mean there is
something happening with the mouse driver and not the system itself?
If it were something in the system itself (other than the mouse
driver), then he would not see immediate execution when he used the
KB.

Or maybe I am missing something.


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>>Given that you've mentioned elsewhere in this thread that you're pretty
>>much OK for malware and CPU usage, I'd be thinking about your graphics
>>card. Have you got the most appropriate drivers? (In that newer drivers
>>are sometimes optimised for newer cards and newer operating systems).
>>Try different drivers, reducing the colour depth of the desktop, turning
>>off Active Desktop and turning off the menu animations. If it helps,
>>then you can turn anything that you want back on again, and see which
>>things slow it down again.
>
> But he said that there is no problem when he uses the KB. It's on;y
> when he uses the mouse that he has a problem.
>
True, which is why I thought that it might be having problems drawing
stuff. It's not like it hurts to turn off the eye candy to see if helps,
is it?

> I would get a Microsoft Intellimouse (Directron $3) and install the MS
> Intellimouse driver. If the problem persists, take it back and get a
> full refund. Then buy a decent computer - one that works.
>
Helpful.

CK

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:28:05 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:07:31 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>I did also suggest
>>booting to safe mode and trying that, it was meant as a list
>>of several things to try, not only one thing.
>
>I still don't understand. If he has no performance delay when he uses
>the KB, but does when he uses the mouse, would that not mean there is
>something happening with the mouse driver and not the system itself?

Not necessarily because he had already clicked. At that
point the driver should not be needed. Again, I DID suggest
Safe Mode. Consider the relevance of Safe Mode.

>If it were something in the system itself (other than the mouse
>driver), then he would not see immediate execution when he used the
>KB.
>
>Or maybe I am missing something.

What you are suggesting makes sense, up until he had clicked
and it still wasn't loading. He could of course uninstall
any mouse drivers and so forth but easier to just follow a
list of items as I'd previously made.

OK: I did boot up in safe mode and did NOT have the delay when using the
mouse. What does that tell us? Also, I previously tried another mouse that
had a USB connection instead of the plug in that came with the computer. I
would assume that other mouse would use other drivers. Still had the same
problem with either mouse regardless of connection type. Now I'm back to
10 seconds when I click on the show desktop icon (as an example), and it is
still instantaneous when I use the Windows-D key. Using the mouse in safe
mode was also instantaneous.

Bob


"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:28:05 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:07:31 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I did also suggest
>>>booting to safe mode and trying that, it was meant as a list
>>>of several things to try, not only one thing.
>>
>>I still don't understand. If he has no performance delay when he uses
>>the KB, but does when he uses the mouse, would that not mean there is
>>something happening with the mouse driver and not the system itself?
>
> Not necessarily because he had already clicked. At that
> point the driver should not be needed. Again, I DID suggest
> Safe Mode. Consider the relevance of Safe Mode.
>
>>If it were something in the system itself (other than the mouse
>>driver), then he would not see immediate execution when he used the
>>KB.
>>
>>Or maybe I am missing something.
>
> What you are suggesting makes sense, up until he had clicked
> and it still wasn't loading. He could of course uninstall
> any mouse drivers and so forth but easier to just follow a
> list of items as I'd previously made.
>

On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:42:53 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>OK: I did boot up in safe mode and did NOT have the delay when using the
>mouse. What does that tell us?

That it's isolated to a driver or software loaded at
(normal) boot.

>Also, I previously tried another mouse that
>had a USB connection instead of the plug in that came with the computer. I
>would assume that other mouse would use other drivers.

Not necessarily, as the PS/2 and USB drivers are integral to
windows to an extent, when one speaks of modern mouse
drivers they're generally talking about an added
functionality driver in addition to that. This would be a
separate driver, most often shown in add/remove programs.

When you load the mouse configuration from Control Panel, is
it the generic Windows or a branded interface, such as
Microsoft (Intellipoint) or Logitech, or other? If such a
3rd party driver is present, try uninstalling it. If it is
only the generic WinXP mouse control, look at other software
installed.

>Still had the same
>problem with either mouse regardless of connection type. Now I'm back to
>10 seconds when I click on the show desktop icon (as an example), and it is
>still instantaneous when I use the Windows-D key. Using the mouse in safe
>mode was also instantaneous.

Do you have a keyboard "hotkeys" type driver running that
detects special-function keys on the keyboard (typically
along the top of it)? If so, try uninstallating that as
well, providing you have the driver installation files
available should you choose to reinstall it- same goes for
the aforementioned mouse driver or any other software- OEMs
can vary in how they distribute the software so you will
have to determine if you can later undo/redo whatever you
change in attempts to resolve this.

Previously I'd mentioned "HijackThis". You might run it,
have it scan and make a log. Then review that log and
determine the origins of the things loading, scrutinize them
to determine if anything is a potential problem.

"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:42:53 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> When you load the mouse configuration from Control Panel, is
> it the generic Windows or a branded interface, such as
> Microsoft (Intellipoint) or Logitech, or other? If such a
> 3rd party driver is present, try uninstalling it. If it is
> only the generic WinXP mouse control, look at other software
> installed.
>
It seems to be generic XP; I uninstalled and Windows automatically
reinstalled it (actually there are two listed):
i8042prt.sys and mouclass.sys, both in Windows System32 directory.

> Do you have a keyboard "hotkeys" type driver running that
> detects special-function keys on the keyboard (typically
> along the top of it)? If so, try uninstallating that as
> well,

Yes, I do. Most of them are configured with defaults that came with the
computer and I don't use them. The only
ones I changed are one to open IE and one to open Outlook Express. I did
this because the hotkeys work a lot faster
than using the mouse to open these applications.

> Previously I'd mentioned "HijackThis". You might run it,
> have it scan and make a log. Then review that log and
> determine the origins of the things loading, scrutinize them
> to determine if anything is a potential problem.

Well I did that and got a nice log that is not terribly revealing to mere
mortals. Indeed, Hijack This suggests that the
log be reviewed by "knowledgable folks". I include the log here hoping that
one of such folks will see something
significant!

Logfile of HijackThis v1.99.1
Scan saved at 7:40:43 AM, on 8/8/2005
Platform: Windows XP SP2 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 SP2 (6.00.2900.2180)

Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe
C:\WINDOWS\AGRSMMSG.exe
C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCWZRD.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\ALCMTR.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
C:\Program Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe
C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
c:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Bob Oaks' Documents\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe

R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/cust...ch/search.html
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TY...ion&pf=desktop
O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5 _7_0.dll
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O3 - Toolbar: HP view - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - c:\Program
Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\HPDTLK02.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -
C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_5 _7_0.dll
O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AGRSMMSG] AGRSMMSG.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AlcWzrd] ALCWZRD.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [edcfmtv9] C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PlaxoUpdate] C:\Program
Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe -a
O4 - Startup: Mozilla Firefox.lnk = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox\firefox.exe
O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program
Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\program
files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} -
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console -
{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program
Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} -
C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger -
{4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program
Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
O9 - Extra button: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
Files\AIM\aim.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger -
{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O16 - DPF: {0246ECA8-996F-11D1-BE2F-00A0C9037DFE} (TDServer Control) -
http://www.rcrusoe.com/wfplayer/tdserver.cab
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage
Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Link...04&clcid=0x409
O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} -
http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache...p1.0.0.8-2.cab
O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/tech...a/LSSupCtl.cab
O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} -
http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqna/downloads/sysinfo.cab
O16 - DPF: {9B17FE0E-51F2-4692-8B32-8EFB805FC0E7} (HPObjectInstaller
Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/gs/...dsolutions.cab
O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) -
https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAV...oadManager.ocx
O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) -
https://www-secure.symantec.com/tech...a/SymAData.cab
O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) -
https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/...er/MotUtil.cab
O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) -
http://h30043.www3.hp.com/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326
O16 - DPF: {FF1CD9A3-00CD-45C1-8182-4EEC229A182D} (Plaxo Auto-Import
Utility) - https://www.plaxo.com/activex/plx_upldr-2k-xp.cab
O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
O23 - Service: CA ISafe (CAISafe) - Computer Associates International,
Inc. - C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. -
C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
O23 - Service: LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Service
(LightScribeService) - Unknown owner - c:\Program Files\Common
Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: VET Message Service (VETMSGNT) - Computer Associates
International, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 01:28:01 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>This would be a
>separate driver, most often shown in add/remove programs.

Then he could look at Task Manager, click the mouse and watch to see
which application is taking up CPU time. Of course he wants to unload
everything he can so there are no competing processes.

I think you are right - some application has intercepted the mouse
interrupt service routine and is doing something with it that takes a
long time.

Msconfig can be used to deactivate startups and services selectively.
In fact it would be more telling to look at what startups and services
msconfig reports. Sometimes rogue applications do not register
anything with add/remove.


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http://home.houston.rr.com/rkba/vrwc.html

"The societal purpose of the media is to inculcate and defend the
economic, social, and political agenda of privileged groups that
dominate the domestic society and the state. The media serve this
purpose in many ways: through the selection of topics, distribution
of concerns, framing of issues, filtering of information, emphasis
and tone, and by keeping debate within the bounds of acceptable premises."

"" wrote:
> "Random Person" <nonexistent2032@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1123338618.136684.37330@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> > "I have Ad-Aware and run it two or three times a week.
> Doesn't make
> > any
> > different in the response time."
> >
> > I used to use Ad-Aware, but I don't anymore. Just use the
> right browser
> > (Firefox) and don't download/run any dodgy stuff, and you'll
> be fine.
> >
> > And for the record, some of the nastier stuff can not be
> removed by Ad
> > Aware.
> >
> Yes, I use Foxfire too, except in those few sites where
> Foxfire won't work.
> I also occasionally use Microsoft's antispyware. As for your
> previous
> question about memory usage, if you mean physical memory,
> total is 515372,
> available is 216428, system cache is 301068. I'm still
> wondering if the
> problem is really system performance as opposed to mouse
> performance (if
> there is such a thing). When I use Windows key-D to get to
> desktop, it is
> instantaneous. But when I use the mouse to click on the
> desktop icon in my
> Quicklaunch toolbar, there is a 10 second lag. Same function,
> but different
> results with different method.

Just to try another anti-spyware program, try this one from my
website, the name is x-cleaner, and it works wonders!:

http://0401.netclime.net/1_5/M/2/7/xcleaner_free-2.exe


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On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:56:14 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>news:q0ddf150clgco619qgiu3hldc2rt7c7nsr@4ax.com.. .
>> On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:42:53 GMT, "Bob" <bobinsfo@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> When you load the mouse configuration from Control Panel, is
>> it the generic Windows or a branded interface, such as
>> Microsoft (Intellipoint) or Logitech, or other? If such a
>> 3rd party driver is present, try uninstalling it. If it is
>> only the generic WinXP mouse control, look at other software
>> installed.
>>
>It seems to be generic XP; I uninstalled and Windows automatically
>reinstalled it (actually there are two listed):
>i8042prt.sys and mouclass.sys, both in Windows System32 directory.

I was talking about a driver in add/remove programs, not
device manager. What you report from Device Manager is not
telling of whether you have another driver, BUT the generic
XP interface would be one sign you didn't.


>Yes, I do. Most of them are configured with defaults that came with the
>computer and I don't use them. The only
>ones I changed are one to open IE and one to open Outlook Express. I did
>this because the hotkeys work a lot faster
>than using the mouse to open these applications.

As mentioned previously, locate (these, any you might want
to isolate by removing) drivers so you have assurance you
can reinstall them if/when necessary, then try uninstalling
it and rebooting.



>C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
>C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE

These two might both be keyboard related.


>C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe

Update checker for Java- I'd disable it.

>C:\Program Files\Common Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe

Update checker for Realplayer- I'd disable it.

>C:\WINDOWS\AGRSMMSG.exe
>C:\WINDOWS\SOUNDMAN.EXE
>C:\WINDOWS\ALCWZRD.EXE
>C:\WINDOWS\ALCMTR.EXE


>C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe

See if you can figure out what this edcfmtv9 belongs to,
Google does find any hits for it. You might search for that
file on your drive and take a look at the properties for it.

>C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe
>C:\Program Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe
>C:\Program Files\Microsoft AntiSpyware\gcasDtServ.exe
>C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe

You might temporarily uninstall the antivirus, only long
enough to check whether it's a cause.

>c:\Program Files\Common Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
>C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared\VS7DEBUG\MDM.EXE
>C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
>C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe

Appears to be another antivirus or security related. Did
you have intentions of running both antivirus IF the two are
overlapping?


>C:\WINDOWS\system32\MsPMSPSv.exe
>C:\WINDOWS\system32\wscntfy.exe
>C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
>C:\Program Files\Outlook Express\msimn.exe
>C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
>C:\Bob Oaks' Documents\HiJackThis\HijackThis.exe
>
>R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Bar =
>http://red.clientapps.yahoo.com/cust...ch/search.html
>R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page =
>http://ie.redirect.hp.com/svs/rdr?TY...ion&pf=desktop
>O2 - BHO: Yahoo! Companion BHO - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} -
>C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_ 5_7_0.dll
>O2 - BHO: AcroIEHlprObj Class - {06849E9F-C8D7-4D59-B87D-784B7D6BE0B3} -
>C:\Program Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\ActiveX\AcroIEHelper.dll
>O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Helper - {AA58ED58-01DD-4d91-8333-CF10577473F7} -
>c:\program files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
>O3 - Toolbar: HP view - {B2847E28-5D7D-4DEB-8B67-05D28BCF79F5} - c:\Program
>Files\HP\Digital Imaging\bin\HPDTLK02.dll
>O3 - Toolbar: &Yahoo! Companion - {EF99BD32-C1FB-11D2-892F-0090271D4F88} -
>C:\PROGRA~1\Yahoo!\COMPAN~1\Installs\cpn1\ycomp5_ 5_7_0.dll
>O3 - Toolbar: &Google - {2318C2B1-4965-11d4-9B18-009027A5CD4F} - c:\program
>files\google\googletoolbar2.dll
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [HotKeysCmds] C:\WINDOWS\system32\hkcmd.exe
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [PS2] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ps2.exe

I'd look into disabling ps2.exe, Google for it and take
appropriate action to disable/remove.


>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Recguard] C:\WINDOWS\SMINST\RECGUARD.EXE

After trying other things, I'd take a closer look at this
Recovery Guard. Google for it's filename to find info and
consider temporarily uninstallating it (again, providing you
have the ability to reinstall it later).


>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KBD] C:\HP\KBD\KBD.EXE
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SunJavaUpdateSched] C:\Program
>Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\jusched.exe
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TkBellExe] "C:\Program Files\Common
>Files\Real\Update_OB\realsched.exe" -osboot
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program
>Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AGRSMMSG] AGRSMMSG.exe
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [SoundMan] SOUNDMAN.EXE
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [AlcWzrd] ALCWZRD.EXE
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Alcmtr] ALCMTR.EXE
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [edcfmtv9] C:\WINDOWS\system32\edcfmtv9.exe
>O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [gcasServ] "C:\Program Files\Microsoft
>AntiSpyware\gcasServ.exe"
>O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PlaxoUpdate] C:\Program
>Files\Plaxo\2.2.3.1\InstallStub.exe -a

Don't know anything about Plaxo, presumably you want it
installed?



>O4 - Startup: Mozilla Firefox.lnk = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
>Firefox\firefox.exe
>O4 - Global Startup: Adobe Reader Speed Launch.lnk = C:\Program
>Files\Adobe\Acrobat 7.0\Reader\reader_sl.exe
>O8 - Extra context menu item: &Google Search - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsearch.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: &Translate English Word - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmwordtrans.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: &Yahoo! Search - file:///C:\Program
>Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycsrch.htm
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Backward Links - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmbacklinks.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Cached Snapshot of Page - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmcache.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel -
>res://C:\PROGRA~1\MI1933~1\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Similar Pages - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmsimilar.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Translate Page into English - res://c:\program
>files\google\GoogleToolbar2.dll/cmtrans.html
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Dictionary - file:///C:\Program
>Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
>O8 - Extra context menu item: Yahoo! &Maps - file:///C:\Program
>Files\Yahoo!\Common/ycdict.htm
>O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} -
>C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
>O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console -
>{08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program
>Files\Java\jre1.5.0_04\bin\npjpi150_04.dll
>O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} -
>C:\Program Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
>O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Yahoo! Messenger -
>{4528BBE0-4E08-11D5-AD55-00010333D0AD} - C:\Program
>Files\Yahoo!\Messenger\yhexbmes0521.dll
>O9 - Extra button: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
>{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
>O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Save As Scholar's Aid WebNote -
>{74FD513B-2A58-4A42-9151-7551BFB6FCD7} - C:\PROGRA~1\SCHOLA~1\SAEXPL~1.DLL
>O9 - Extra button: AIM - {AC9E2541-2814-11d5-BC6D-00B0D0A1DE45} - C:\Program
>Files\AIM\aim.exe
>O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} -
>C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
>O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger -
>{FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program
>Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
>O16 - DPF: {0246ECA8-996F-11D1-BE2F-00A0C9037DFE} (TDServer Control) -
>http://www.rcrusoe.com/wfplayer/tdserver.cab

You should investigate this tdserver. Have you scanned your
system for viri, spyware, etc, recently?


>O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage
>Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?Link...04&clcid=0x409
>O16 - DPF: {1D4DB7D2-6EC9-47A3-BD87-1E41684E07BB} -

>http://ak.imgfarm.com/images/nocache...p1.0.0.8-2.cab
>O16 - DPF: {1F2F4C9E-6F09-47BC-970D-3C54734667FE} (LSSupCtl Class) -

You have a lot of stuff installed, this item above is
another entry you might research if you're not sure you want
it.

>https://www-secure.symantec.com/tech...a/LSSupCtl.cab
>O16 - DPF: {49232000-16E4-426C-A231-62846947304B} -
>http://ipgweb.cce.hp.com/rdqna/downloads/sysinfo.cab
>O16 - DPF: {9B17FE0E-51F2-4692-8B32-8EFB805FC0E7} (HPObjectInstaller
>Class) - http://h30155.www3.hp.com/ediags/gs/...dsolutions.cab
>O16 - DPF: {AB86CE53-AC9F-449F-9399-D8ABCA09EC09} (Get_ActiveX Control) -
>https://h17000.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAV...oadManager.ocx
>O16 - DPF: {CE28D5D2-60CF-4C7D-9FE8-0F47A3308078} (ActiveDataInfo Class) -
>https://www-secure.symantec.com/tech...a/SymAData.cab

After trying the system with other things removed, consider
temporarily uninstalling all Symantec software.


>O16 - DPF: {E93A6FCA-C052-45DF-AC9B-B729066092F8} (Util Class) -
>https://isupport4.hp.com/motivedocs/...er/MotUtil.cab
>O16 - DPF: {EB387D2F-E27B-4D36-979E-847D1036C65D} (QDiagHUpdateObj Class) -
>http://h30043.www3.hp.com/aio/en/check/qdiagh.cab?326

Same goes for all these HP softwares, consider uninstalling
them temporarily if nothing else helps. There are other
people more experienced at analyzing HijackThis logs than I
am, if the problems persist you might submit your log to a
webforum, Google for "HijackThis" "submit"


>O16 - DPF: {FF1CD9A3-00CD-45C1-8182-4EEC229A182D} (Plaxo Auto-Import
>Utility) - https://www.plaxo.com/activex/plx_upldr-2k-xp.cab
>O20 - Winlogon Notify: igfxcui - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\igfxsrvc.dll
>O23 - Service: CA ISafe (CAISafe) - Computer Associates International,
>Inc. - C:\Program Files\CA\eTrust EZ Armor\eTrust EZ Antivirus\isafe.exe
>O23 - Service: iPod Service (iPodService) - Apple Computer, Inc. -
>C:\Program Files\iPod\bin\iPodService.exe
>O23 - Service: LightScribeService Direct Disc Labeling Service
>(LightScribeService) - Unknown owner - c:\Program Files\Common
>Files\LightScribe\LSSrvc.exe
>O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\system32\HPZipm12.exe
>O23 - Service: VET Message Service (VETMSGNT) - Computer Associates
>International, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\CA\ETRUST~1\ETRUST~1\VetMsg.exe
>
>

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:59:55 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 01:28:01 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>This would be a
>>separate driver, most often shown in add/remove programs.
>
>Then he could look at Task Manager, click the mouse and watch to see
>which application is taking up CPU time. Of course he wants to unload
>everything he can so there are no competing processes.

It might reveal something, but too often such things aren't
listed under separate processes so while it could pinpoint
something, often it won't.

>
>I think you are right - some application has intercepted the mouse
>interrupt service routine and is doing something with it that takes a
>long time.
>
>Msconfig can be used to deactivate startups and services selectively.
>In fact it would be more telling to look at what startups and services
>msconfig reports. Sometimes rogue applications do not register
>anything with add/remove.

Agreed, MSCONFIG is a good way to temporarily disable things
though some won't appear in MSCONFIG so it might be seen as
something to try first before (trying other things).