Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
> maybe not.
>
> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
> result.
>
> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
> start up - but it won't
>
> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
repair that. Accept that offer.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>> maybe not.
>>
>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>> result.
>>
>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>> start up - but it won't
>>
>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>
>Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>repair that. Accept that offer.
>
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>> maybe not.
>>
>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>> result.
>>
>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>> start up - but it won't
>>
>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>
>Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>repair that. Accept that offer.
>
It didn't work dang it!
I did the 'repair install' which ran a while and it then went to first
reboot like installs usually do. The boot up get as far as the
Windows logo for a few secs, then reboots. Over and over.
Safe Mode won't work during install (or so it says when I tried it).
Jethro wrote:
> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
> maybe not.
>
> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
> result.
>
> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
> start up - but it won't
>
> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards on
an XP install. I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the
opportunity to give myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
Jethro wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>>> maybe not.
>>>
>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>>> result.
>>>
>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>> start up - but it won't
>>>
>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>> Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>> a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>> THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>> repair that. Accept that offer.
>>
>
>
> It didn't work dang it!
>
> I did the 'repair install' which ran a while and it then went to first
> reboot like installs usually do. The boot up get as far as the
> Windows logo for a few secs, then reboots. Over and over.
>
> Safe Mode won't work during install (or so it says when I tried it).
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jethro
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:26:17 -0500, Paul <nospam@needed.com> wrote:
>Jethro wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>>>> maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>>>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>>>> result.
>>>>
>>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>>> start up - but it won't
>>>>
>>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>> Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>>> a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>>> THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>>> repair that. Accept that offer.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It didn't work dang it!
>>
>> I did the 'repair install' which ran a while and it then went to first
>> reboot like installs usually do. The boot up get as far as the
>> Windows logo for a few secs, then reboots. Over and over.
>>
>> Safe Mode won't work during install (or so it says when I tried it).
>>
>> Any other ideas?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jethro
>
>Are you following the recipe here ?
>
>http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm
>
> Paul
I looked at it - don't see my problem shown (ie crash & reboot over &
over).
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:22:58 GMT, Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com>
wrote:
>Jethro wrote:
>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>> maybe not.
>>
>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>> result.
>>
>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>> start up - but it won't
>>
>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>
>I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards on
>an XP install. I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the
>opportunity to give myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
I can believe that. A clean install is next I guess. I'll wait for
an hour or so to see if anyone else has an idea.
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:16:11 GMT, Jethro
<Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>>> maybe not.
>>>
>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>>> result.
>>>
>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>> start up - but it won't
>>>
>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>
>>Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>>a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>>THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>>repair that. Accept that offer.
>>
>
>
>It didn't work dang it!
>
>I did the 'repair install' which ran a while and it then went to first
>reboot like installs usually do. The boot up get as far as the
>Windows logo for a few secs, then reboots. Over and over.
>
>Safe Mode won't work during install (or so it says when I tried it).
>
>Any other ideas?
>
Doing the repair install might've messed it up too much to
do either of the above, this I can't know. If you had a
backup of your OS installation prior to the repair install
you ought to restore that first, or clone a 2nd HDD from it
and try the migration on that copy of the OS.
Beware of DaveW who is infamous for claiming you can't do
anything but a clean installation. A clean installation is
only necessary from lack of ability to get it to work any
other way... which can be a point one comes to, but as a
rule it is untrue.
Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
> Jethro wrote:
>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks
>> like maybe not.
>>
>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>> result.
>>
>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>> start up - but it won't
>>
>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
> I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards on an XP install.
That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give myself a clean install, which
> I heartily recommend.
More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:22:58 GMT, Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Jethro wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks
>>> like maybe not.
>>>
>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the
>>> process, automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe
>>> Mode - same result.
>>>
>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>> start up - but it won't
>>>
>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>
>> I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards
>> on an XP install. I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the
>> opportunity to give myself a clean install, which I heartily
>> recommend.
>
>
> I can believe that. A clean install is next I guess. I'll wait for
> an hour or so to see if anyone else has an idea.
Check whether you have virus protection enabled in the bios.
The XP install fiddles with the MBR and that virus protection
can prevent it fiddling with the MBR.
If you do need to do a clean install, use the files and settings transfer wizard
to save the files and settings first and restore them to the clean install.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:24:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
>> Jethro wrote:
>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks
>>> like maybe not.
>>>
>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>>> result.
>>>
>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>> start up - but it won't
>>>
>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>
>> I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards on an XP install.
>
>That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
>
>> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give myself a clean install, which
>> I heartily recommend.
>
>More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
>
My situation is this:
I replaced the old MOBO & CPU with the new MOBO & CPU in the same case
and same drives. Now the machine will not continue the repair
installation as I stated before. So I cannot copy the files or
anything else from the c drive because I can't get into XP.
If I can't get the installation to continue past this bad point, I'll
just have to do a fresh virgin XP install followed by installs of the
applications I was using, followed by a transfer back of the data
files I fortunately have saved. I'll wait an hour or so though.
Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:24:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks
>>>> like maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the
>>>> process, automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe
>>>> Mode - same result.
>>>>
>>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>>> start up - but it won't
>>>>
>>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>
>>> I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards
>>> on an XP install.
>>
>> That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
>>
>>> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give
>>> myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
>>
>> More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
>>
>
>
> My situation is this:
>
> I replaced the old MOBO & CPU with the new MOBO & CPU in the same case
> and same drives. Now the machine will not continue the repair
> installation as I stated before. So I cannot copy the files or
> anything else from the c drive because I can't get into XP.
You can however put the drive back on the original motherboard
and cpu so you can use the files and settings transfer wizard.
> If I can't get the installation to continue past this bad point, I'll
> just have to do a fresh virgin XP install followed by installs of the
> applications I was using, followed by a transfer back of the data
> files I fortunately have saved. I'll wait an hour or so though.
Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in
news:78dpt210f08oj3s6no4qq7vcnqukvk792j@4ax.com:
>>That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
>>
>>> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give
>>> myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
>>
>>More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
>>
>
>
> My situation is this:
>
> I replaced the old MOBO & CPU with the new MOBO & CPU in the same case
> and same drives. Now the machine will not continue the repair
> installation as I stated before. So I cannot copy the files or
> anything else from the c drive because I can't get into XP.
> If I can't get the installation to continue past this bad point, I'll
> just have to do a fresh virgin XP install followed by installs of the
> applications I was using, followed by a transfer back of the data
> files I fortunately have saved. I'll wait an hour or so though.
>
> Jethro
I think I'm still in under your hour......
Have you tried the repair with all unnecessary devices disconnected, ie. -
only a kdb, mouse, 1 HD, and a video card connected ? (Then adding them in
one-by-one after.)
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 23:05:01 +0100 (CET), DanS
<t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t@a.d.e.l.p.h.i.a.n.e.t> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in
>news:78dpt210f08oj3s6no4qq7vcnqukvk792j@4ax.com :
>
>>>That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
>>>
>>>> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give
>>>> myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
>>>
>>>More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
>>>
>>
>>
>> My situation is this:
>>
>> I replaced the old MOBO & CPU with the new MOBO & CPU in the same case
>> and same drives. Now the machine will not continue the repair
>> installation as I stated before. So I cannot copy the files or
>> anything else from the c drive because I can't get into XP.
>> If I can't get the installation to continue past this bad point, I'll
>> just have to do a fresh virgin XP install followed by installs of the
>> applications I was using, followed by a transfer back of the data
>> files I fortunately have saved. I'll wait an hour or so though.
>>
>> Jethro
>
>I think I'm still in under your hour......
Aw gee..I'm sorry for saying what I did. I have no right to push you
guys into answering me on my problem. You are voluntarily doing it
and for that I am thankful. Actually I just wanted to say that I was
not going to do anything for a bit in the hope someone would suggest
something that would be a panacea.
Yes, as a matter of fact all my printers and other USB devices are
disconnected. Even my Ethernet.
Jethro
>
>Have you tried the repair with all unnecessary devices disconnected, ie. -
>only a kdb, mouse, 1 HD, and a video card connected ? (Then adding them in
>one-by-one after.)
>
>Just a shot in the dark.
On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 08:32:41 +1100, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:24:25 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>> <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Grinder <grinder@no.spam.maam.com> wrote:
>>>> Jethro wrote:
>>>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks
>>>>> like maybe not.
>>>>>
>>>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the
>>>>> process, automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe
>>>>> Mode - same result.
>>>>>
>>>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>>>> start up - but it won't
>>>>>
>>>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>>
>>>> I have heard very few people that have been able to swap mainboards
>>>> on an XP install.
>>>
>>> That is just plain wrong, works fine most of the time.
>>>
>>>> I've just done a similar maneuver, and took the opportunity to give
>>>> myself a clean install, which I heartily recommend.
>>>
>>> More fool you, its a hell of a lot more work than a repair install.
>>>
>>
>>
>> My situation is this:
>>
>> I replaced the old MOBO & CPU with the new MOBO & CPU in the same case
>> and same drives. Now the machine will not continue the repair
>> installation as I stated before. So I cannot copy the files or
>> anything else from the c drive because I can't get into XP.
>
>You can however put the drive back on the original motherboard
>and cpu so you can use the files and settings transfer wizard.
Yup - can do that I guess.
>
>> If I can't get the installation to continue past this bad point, I'll
>> just have to do a fresh virgin XP install followed by installs of the
>> applications I was using, followed by a transfer back of the data
>> files I fortunately have saved. I'll wait an hour or so though.
>
WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used with a harddrive
containing the OS, after changing the motherboard you MUST reformat the
harddrive and do a fresh installation of the OS. Otherwise you get Registry
errors and data corruption.
--
--------
DaveW
"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
news:n74pt25n4lr9bq5ron8l7ff0gca87454pj@4ax.com...
>I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
> maybe not.
>
> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
> result.
>
> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
> start up - but it won't
>
> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>
> Help please
>
> Jethro
On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:32:05 -0800, "DaveW" <done@gone.org> wrote:
>WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used with a harddrive
>containing the OS, after changing the motherboard you MUST reformat the
>harddrive and do a fresh installation of the OS. Otherwise you get Registry
>errors and data corruption.
Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote
> DaveW <done@gone.org> wrote
>> WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used
>> with a harddrive containing the OS, after changing the motherboard
>> you MUST reformat the harddrive and do a fresh installation of
>> the OS. Otherwise you get Registry errors and data corruption.
"Jethro" <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote in message
news:tampt2p10vi220bj736976gqn9a3hmbb0l@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:32:05 -0800, "DaveW" <done@gone.org> wrote:
>
> >WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used with a harddrive
> >containing the OS, after changing the motherboard you MUST reformat the
> >harddrive and do a fresh installation of the OS. Otherwise you get
Registry
> >errors and data corruption.
>
>
> Interesting...Noone told me that before.
>
> Okay will do
Actually, it can be done, and I have done so on at least two or more
occasions. It may be too late for you at this point, and in fact you may
have already gone the clean install route, but fwiw, here is my process for
changing motherboards. I suspect your problems, probably stemmed from the
new mb booting into your existing XP install.
Create a backup image, of my current system, to have just in case.
Backup my settings, with the file and trasfer utility in XP, again to have,
just in case.
Remove the motherboard drivers, from add/remove programs if there, and from
device manager.
Disable any start up programs that might interfere, for instance I run ATI
Tray Tools, AVG Antivirus, those I would temporarily disable from startup
through msconfig. I also make a note, of my startup items in msconfig to
have as a reference for later.
Shut down the system for the last time.
Install new motherboard.
Power up system, immediately go into bios on first boot. Do NOT let the
system boot up into XP - this is very important. Confirm bios settings, ie
hard drives recognized, date and time correct, temp ok, etc.
Insert my XP Cd rom in the drive.
Set the bios first boot device, to cd rom drive.
Exit bios saving settings to reboot.
When prompted during boot to press any key to continue booting from the cd
rom, do so.
VERY IMPORTANT - DO NOT LET THE NEW BOARD BOOT INTO THE EXISTING XP
INSTALLATION.
Boot from the XP Cd, at first screen, select new install ( not the recovery
option ), on next screen, it will find your existing XP installation, choose
it, and press R for repair. ( you will be given an option to delete or
repair the existing installation). This is basically an inplace upgrade, of
your existing XP install.
During the repair, it will reboot at some point, this time, do NOT press any
key to boot from the cd rom, let it continue to boot from the hard drive.
Once successfully repaired, install the new motherboard drivers off the cd
that came with it, or downloaded from the mfg's website.
Then, go to windows update, and get all the needed updates again.
Defrag the newly repaired XP install.
Look in device manager, verify no conflicts or problem devices.
Note: If your XP cd rom, is pre SP2, and your existing install is SP2 , then
you will need to either uninstall SP2 prior , or better yet, create a
slipstreamed XP SP2 disc. Autostreamer, is a great utility, for creating
slipstreamed XP SP2 cd's.
As mentioned, I have done this with great success. Of course, anyone's
mileage, may vary. But it is a time saver, and worst case scenario, if it
does not work, is to go ahead and do that clean install. If successful, a
repair install is much quicker, retaining your programs and settings. If
not, you have not lost a whole lot , then you can do that clean install, but
make sure you have all the cd's for your programs you'll need, and all your
data backed up to a safe place.
I will be upgrading, from an Athlon based system, to an Intel Core2 duo on
an EVGA 680i sli mb , hopefully sometime this weekend, and plan on doing it
this way as well. If I do, I will be glad to report back how it goes.
> Beware of DaveW who is infamous for claiming you can't do
> anything but a clean installation. A clean installation is
> only necessary from lack of ability to get it to work any
> other way... which can be a point one comes to, but as a
> rule it is untrue.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
I feel bad working as a tech i would usually do clean installs to spit
out systens quicker... or make myself look better :)
On Feb 21, 3:47 pm, Jethro <Wil...@somewhere.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:32:05 -0800, "DaveW" <d...@gone.org> wrote:
> >WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used with a harddrive
> >containing the OS, after changing the motherboard you MUST reformat the
> >harddrive and do a fresh installation of the OS. Otherwise you get Registry
> >errors and data corruption.
>
> Interesting...Noone told me that before.
>
> Okay will do
On Feb 21, 3:47 pm, Jethro <Wil...@somewhere.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 15:32:05 -0800, "DaveW" <d...@gone.org> wrote:
> >WHENEVER you change the motherboard that has been used with a harddrive
> >containing the OS, after changing the motherboard you MUST reformat the
> >harddrive and do a fresh installation of the OS. Otherwise you get Registry
> >errors and data corruption.
>
> Interesting...Noone told me that before.
>
> Okay will do
On 21 Feb 2007 22:28:55 -0800, "proph3t"
<craigoscott@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Beware of DaveW who is infamous for claiming you can't do
>> anything but a clean installation. A clean installation is
>> only necessary from lack of ability to get it to work any
>> other way... which can be a point one comes to, but as a
>> rule it is untrue.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>I feel bad working as a tech i would usually do clean installs to spit
>out systens quicker... or make myself look better :)
Sometimes a clean install is necessary to correct a problem,
but when the expressed goal is to preserve the OS
installation and apps, just to get the new board working,
there is good reason to do the least intrusive things first.
"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:16:11 GMT, Jethro
> <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 22 Feb 2007 05:48:33 +1100, "Rod Speed"
>><rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Jethro <Wilson@somewhere.org> wrote:
>>>> I am trying to change my system from a P4 Pentium to an Athlon 64
>>>> 3200+. I thought I could use my existing boot hard drive. Looks like
>>>> maybe not.
>>>>
>>>> The new system tries to boot up but quits quite early in the process,
>>>> automatically restarting. Over and over. I tried Safe Mode - same
>>>> result.
>>>>
>>>> My C drive has WXP PRO SP2 on it, and I figured it would at least
>>>> start up - but it won't
>>>>
>>>> Can't I do this? Or do I have to install a new copy of WXP and all
>>>> the apps and recover all the data to get it going?
>>>
>>>Nope, just do a repair install of XP. Operate as if you are going to do
>>>a clean install, in the same partition its already installed. DONT FORMAT
>>>THAT PARTITION. The install will find the previous install and offer to
>>>repair that. Accept that offer.
>>>
>>
>>
>>It didn't work dang it!
>>
>>I did the 'repair install' which ran a while and it then went to first
>>reboot like installs usually do. The boot up get as far as the
>>Windows logo for a few secs, then reboots. Over and over.
>>
>>Safe Mode won't work during install (or so it says when I tried it).
>>
>>Any other ideas?
>>
>
>
> Put the drive back in the original system, then,
> http://www.mostlycreativeworkshop.com/article11.html
>
> http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=A...read&arc_id=36
>
> Doing the repair install might've messed it up too much to
> do either of the above, this I can't know. If you had a
> backup of your OS installation prior to the repair install
> you ought to restore that first, or clone a 2nd HDD from it
> and try the migration on that copy of the OS.
>
> Beware of DaveW who is infamous for claiming you can't do
> anything but a clean installation. A clean installation is
> only necessary from lack of ability to get it to work any
> other way... which can be a point one comes to, but as a
> rule it is untrue.
Kony, knowing how Jethro would prefer retaining old data, applications,
etc., why can't he install a new harddrive, jumper/format/install it as
master, and jumper/hang the old one as slave to the new one? Naturally,
he'd boot thru new hd, but then could access "old" hd with applications kept
in tact? Seems I remember doing similar on older systems using Win 98 and
maybe as long ago as Win 95. Hopefully he's got email addys and i'net
bookmarks backed up on external media. (I may learn that what I did will
not work, but since I didn't know better, it did so anyhow?!) Yes, I'm
trying to learn too. s
> Kony, knowing how Jethro would prefer retaining old data, applications,
> etc., why can't he install a new harddrive, jumper/format/install it as
> master, and jumper/hang the old one as slave to the new one?
This works well as long as you remember not to connect the old drive until
after the installation is complete.
> Naturally, he'd boot thru new hd, but then could access "old" hd with
> applications kept in tact?
Nope... Applications won't work from the old drive. That software will need
to be reinstalled, but all the data would be there.
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:20:04 -0500, "sdlomi2"
<sdlSPAMomi2@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Kony, knowing how Jethro would prefer retaining old data, applications,
>etc., why can't he install a new harddrive, jumper/format/install it as
>master, and jumper/hang the old one as slave to the new one? Naturally,
>he'd boot thru new hd, but then could access "old" hd with applications kept
>in tact? Seems I remember doing similar on older systems using Win 98 and
>maybe as long ago as Win 95. Hopefully he's got email addys and i'net
>bookmarks backed up on external media. (I may learn that what I did will
>not work, but since I didn't know better, it did so anyhow?!) Yes, I'm
>trying to learn too. s
>
Ok, yes that's possible too, but the goal was to continue
using the present Windows installation as it was, or at
least as close to that as possible, just changed to
accomodate the new hardware.
Thought I would report back on my results, for those that may be interested.
Yesterday, I upgraded my system, from an Athlon X2 4400+ socket 939 on an
MSI K8N Neo4 Plat mb, to the following:
Intel Core2 Duo 6600
EVGA 680i SLI socket 775 mb
2gb Corsair XMS2 ddr2 pc8500 ram
Zalman 9700 NT cooler
Kept my existing:
Saphire Radeon X850XT PCIe video card
Soundblaster XFi soundcard
2 ea WD 250 gb sata hard drives
Following the process I outlined below, I was able to successfully do a
repair install, of XP Pro, retaining all my existing settings and program
files. Obviously, much faster than reformatting and doing a clean install. I
have no conflicts or problem areas showing in device manager, and
performance on this sytem is incredible.
The only very minor glitches I ran into, I had to re-activate my XP Pro
install - went over the internet just fine - and of course, download and
install all updates since SP2 ( app 70 of them ). MY AVG anti-virus,
prompted me to re-enter my registration code, which went fine.
I did take all necessary precautions, and was prepared should I have to do a
clean install., by backing up my system, creating an image on an external
usb hard drive, and backing up my settings using the File and Settings
Transfer wizard, as a just in case. I highly recommend this to anyone
attempting to do a repair install in case things do go south.
Anyway, yes, by taking all precautions and being careful, it can be done.
The biggest thing, is to not let the new mb boot into your old XP install ,
immediately boot from the XP cd and do the repair install.
Hope this info is helpful to some,
--
Don
"Don Burnette" <burnetted@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Actually, it can be done, and I have done so on at least two or more
> occasions. It may be too late for you at this point, and in fact you may
> have already gone the clean install route, but fwiw, here is my process
> for
> changing motherboards. I suspect your problems, probably stemmed from the
> new mb booting into your existing XP install.
>
> Create a backup image, of my current system, to have just in case.
> Backup my settings, with the file and trasfer utility in XP, again to
> have,
> just in case.
> Remove the motherboard drivers, from add/remove programs if there, and
> from
> device manager.
> Disable any start up programs that might interfere, for instance I run ATI
> Tray Tools, AVG Antivirus, those I would temporarily disable from startup
> through msconfig. I also make a note, of my startup items in msconfig to
> have as a reference for later.
> Shut down the system for the last time.
> Install new motherboard.
> Power up system, immediately go into bios on first boot. Do NOT let the
> system boot up into XP - this is very important. Confirm bios settings, ie
> hard drives recognized, date and time correct, temp ok, etc.
> Insert my XP Cd rom in the drive.
> Set the bios first boot device, to cd rom drive.
> Exit bios saving settings to reboot.
> When prompted during boot to press any key to continue booting from the cd
> rom, do so.
> VERY IMPORTANT - DO NOT LET THE NEW BOARD BOOT INTO THE EXISTING XP
> INSTALLATION.
> Boot from the XP Cd, at first screen, select new install ( not the
> recovery
> option ), on next screen, it will find your existing XP installation,
> choose
> it, and press R for repair. ( you will be given an option to delete or
> repair the existing installation). This is basically an inplace upgrade,
> of
> your existing XP install.
> During the repair, it will reboot at some point, this time, do NOT press
> any
> key to boot from the cd rom, let it continue to boot from the hard drive.
> Once successfully repaired, install the new motherboard drivers off the cd
> that came with it, or downloaded from the mfg's website.
> Then, go to windows update, and get all the needed updates again.
> Defrag the newly repaired XP install.
> Look in device manager, verify no conflicts or problem devices.
>
> Note: If your XP cd rom, is pre SP2, and your existing install is SP2 ,
> then
> you will need to either uninstall SP2 prior , or better yet, create a
> slipstreamed XP SP2 disc. Autostreamer, is a great utility, for creating
> slipstreamed XP SP2 cd's.
>
> As mentioned, I have done this with great success. Of course, anyone's
> mileage, may vary. But it is a time saver, and worst case scenario, if it
> does not work, is to go ahead and do that clean install. If successful, a
> repair install is much quicker, retaining your programs and settings. If
> not, you have not lost a whole lot , then you can do that clean install,
> but
> make sure you have all the cd's for your programs you'll need, and all
> your
> data backed up to a safe place.
>
> I will be upgrading, from an Athlon based system, to an Intel Core2 duo on
> an EVGA 680i sli mb , hopefully sometime this weekend, and plan on doing
> it
> this way as well. If I do, I will be glad to report back how it goes.
>
> Hope this information is helpful,
>
>
> Don
>
>
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 21:20:04 -0500, "sdlomi2"
> <sdlSPAMomi2@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> Kony, knowing how Jethro would prefer retaining old data,
>> applications,
>>etc., why can't he install a new harddrive, jumper/format/install it as
>>master, and jumper/hang the old one as slave to the new one? Naturally,
>>he'd boot thru new hd, but then could access "old" hd with applications
>>kept
>>in tact? Seems I remember doing similar on older systems using Win 98 and
>>maybe as long ago as Win 95. Hopefully he's got email addys and i'net
>>bookmarks backed up on external media. (I may learn that what I did will
>>not work, but since I didn't know better, it did so anyhow?!) Yes, I'm
>>trying to learn too. s
>>
>
>
> Ok, yes that's possible too, but the goal was to continue
> using the present Windows installation as it was, or at
> least as close to that as possible, just changed to
> accomodate the new hardware.
Trouble with new MOBO & CPU 
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