Two devices per drive

I am running Win2K/SP4.

I have an 80 GB IDE drive connected as chanell 0 master. It is the
boot disk with only one NTFS partition spanning the entire disk. The
label is "Sysyem".

When I look at My Computer, I see only 1 disk icon. The same is when
I look at Disk Manager. But when I use Win2K Defrag, the drive list
shows two devices. One is called "System (C:)" and the other is called
"System". Both show the same size (76,316 MB) and both show NTFS File
System.

If I use PerfectDisk to display the devices, it permits me to see the
GUID. In this case each device has its own different GUID but
otherwise each device is the same.

The same thing happens when I install a second IDE drive as slave on
channel 0 - I get two devices. In that case I get "Backup (D:)" and
"Backup" with the same size and file system, and the GUIDs are
different.

What is going on and how do I fix it?


--

"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress."
--Mark Twain

Bob wrote:
>
> I am running Win2K/SP4.

My condolences.

>
.... snip ...
>
> What is going on and how do I fix it?

You have Microsoft products mounted. Install some variety of Linux.

--
Some informative links:
news:news.announce.newusers
http://www.geocities.com/nnqweb/
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html
http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:51:42 -0400, CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>> What is going on and how do I fix it?

>You have Microsoft products mounted. Install some variety of Linux.

We had our chance back in 1990s when Novell bought SV R4 from AT&T. NT
was a shambles but Unka Bill managed to scare all the IT ninnies into
using Virus95 and not go over to UNIX. It's those chickenshits who did
us all in.

I have too many applications that run only on Windows, such as
commodity trading platforms, etc. Anyway, to hear it from the
penguins, Linux has its share of nightmares too. So it would just be
another instance of robbing Peter to pay Paul.


--

"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress."
--Mark Twain

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 11:33:42 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Fri, 01 Sep 2006 13:51:42 -0400, CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>
>>> What is going on and how do I fix it?
>
>>You have Microsoft products mounted. Install some variety of Linux.
>
>We had our chance back in 1990s when Novell bought SV R4 from AT&T. NT
>was a shambles but Unka Bill managed to scare all the IT ninnies into
>using Virus95 and not go over to UNIX. It's those chickenshits who did
>us all in.
>
>I have too many applications that run only on Windows, such as
>commodity trading platforms, etc. Anyway, to hear it from the
>penguins, Linux has its share of nightmares too. So it would just be
>another instance of robbing Peter to pay Paul.


.... but did you ever bother to do a clean install of 2k or
is this still the nearly decade-old upgrade of NT4 you're
running?

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:48:03 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>... but did you ever bother to do a clean install of 2k or
>is this still the nearly decade-old upgrade of NT4 you're
>running?

It is the nearly decade-old upgrade of NT4.

I have far too many applications to do a fresh install. When Vista
comes I will do it, but not for Win2K which is no longer supported.

My point is that this PerfectDisk program could be the way to fix
problems similar to mine.


--

"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress."
--Mark Twain

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 23:53:56 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 16:48:03 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>... but did you ever bother to do a clean install of 2k or
>>is this still the nearly decade-old upgrade of NT4 you're
>>running?
>
>It is the nearly decade-old upgrade of NT4.
>
>I have far too many applications to do a fresh install. When Vista
>comes I will do it, but not for Win2K which is no longer supported.


What difference does "supported" make?
You're already running 2K several years after XP debuted, it
is far more mature and needing less "support" than Vista
ever would.

You seem to be entirely missing the point though, a large %
of the problems, a large percent of OS partition waste, and
performance loss might be attributed to the state of your
OS.

The solution when you have a lot of apps is to build up the
replacement installation as a work-in-progress, while
continuing to use the existing one. Leave the existing
installation intact even after you feel the new one is
finished for any potentially remaining data, settings, etc,
transfers.


>
>My point is that this PerfectDisk program could be the way to fix
>problems similar to mine.


A problem that shouldn't exist? Ok, whatever makes you
happy?

On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:15:52 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>A problem that shouldn't exist? Ok, whatever makes you
>happy?

It would make me happy if someone knew why I have two devices attached
to each hard disk. Can't you tell me?

It's as though Windows thinks I am using 1 disk for a mirror without
saying anything as such. How do I explore the mirror possibility?


--

"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress."
--Mark Twain

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 10:40:13 GMT, spam@uce.gov (Bob) wrote:

>On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:15:52 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>>A problem that shouldn't exist? Ok, whatever makes you
>>happy?
>
>It would make me happy if someone knew why I have two devices attached
>to each hard disk. Can't you tell me?
>
>It's as though Windows thinks I am using 1 disk for a mirror without
>saying anything as such. How do I explore the mirror possibility?

Is there a possibility that there is some sort of virtual disk
established by some back-up or ghosting software? I'm not familiar
with those but what comes to mind is virtual CD drives created by
Alcohol 120% or Nero, and possibly others.

On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:25:26 GMT, Michael Wardreau
<oldmartian@users.easynews.com> wrote:

>>It's as though Windows thinks I am using 1 disk for a mirror without
>>saying anything as such. How do I explore the mirror possibility?

>Is there a possibility that there is some sort of virtual disk
>established by some back-up or ghosting software? I'm not familiar
>with those but what comes to mind is virtual CD drives created by
>Alcohol 120% or Nero, and possibly others.

That is my suspicion but I have no way to find out, unless someone
comes up with a way.

I have never used Alcohol and I am using Nero 6.

I have deleted all the mounts in the Registry and all the devices in
Add/Remove Hardware. When I reboot Windows tells me I have a new
device and to reboot. I do that and I have two devices attached as
before.

The names are different: One is "System (C:)" and the other is
"System". When I use a defragger like PerfectDisk, I can see two
distinct GUIDs for the two devices. I always use the one designated
"System (C:)" for defragging. The name "System" is the volume label.

I tried changing the label to "C-Drive" in My Computer Properties.
That caused the one originally designated by "System (C:)" to change
to "C-Drive (C:)" in PerfectDisk. However the other device remained
"System".

Then I rebooted and this time PerfectDisk reports the same new name
for both devices. So whatever is going on, it's happening at startup.

The same sort of thing happens with the second disk on channel 0
Slave. So the problem appears to be global.

BTW, the same thing shows up when I use Win2K Defragger - I get two
devices per disk.

Is there something I can look for in the Event Viewer - some
application that is causing this. For example, I always get the
Application Log event

Event Type: Information
Event Source: WMDM PMSP Service
Event Category: None
Event ID: 105
Date: 9/3/2006
Time: 11:35:32 AM
Description:
The service was started.

Otherwise nothing suspicious is being reported.

Could it be the Avast Anti-Virus application is creating a virtual
device it uses to monitor disk activity?



--

"There is no distinctly native American criminal class save Congress."
--Mark Twain