Is it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1
empty) pin cable? My usb connector is reserved with the case usb
connector, and i would need to connect this one too, the moterboard is
pcchips M830LR; it has only one usb connector-pin slot. ? I thought i
could maybe connect it through usb somehow or something like that ?
> it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1 empty)
> pin cable? My usb connector is reserved with the case usb connector, and i
> would need to connect this one too, the moterboard is pcchips M830LR; it has
> only one usb connector-pin slot. ? I thought i could maybe connect it through
> usb somehow or something like that ?
Get an external reader.
I usually connect the reader to the mainboard and cover the USB slot on
the case.
If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong
positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in
your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the
locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire
positions.
If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would
need to buy two adapter cables.
A different alternative to the adapter cables would be to
buy a PCI USB2 card from someplace that sells them with
internal pin headers on them. http://www.newegg.com sells a
few like this, check the pictures of their PCI USB cards to
see which ones have this pin header. They cost about $15.
If Newegg is in the wrong country you can still look at the
pictures to determine what brands and models have this pin
header then search for these product names at websites of
sellers in your area.
> My usb connector is reserved with the case usb
>connector, and i would need to connect this one too, the moterboard is
>pcchips M830LR; it has only one usb connector-pin slot. ?
You can find the specs and locations of the connectors on
your motherboard by consulting the manual (or in this case,
the manual for a similar version of the board if the manual
for your exact version cannot be found):
If your board revision differs a lot from version 3.1b, then
search for the board manual on this page as a Socket 462
board and choosing 830** model number (830L since 8030LR is
not listed):
kony wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:25:28 +0200, Majki Majk
> <comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>
>> Is it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1
>> empty) pin cable?
>
> Yes, if you can find a USB pin adapter that converts it to a
> USB plug. Here is one example:
>
> http://www.frontx.com/cpx508.html
>
That was on my mind too, but i had thoughts on 9pin-usb cable.
> If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong
> positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in
> your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the
> locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire
> positions.
>
Didn't understood this above with the prying up the locking tabs and
swapping...
Luckily i have the usb 2.0. card in the computer, it has 5pin connector
as we are looking the similar, but wouldn't it must be 9pin connector?
So, i now have a Card-reader device with connector and a cable
9pin-to-9pin, and a usb card device with 5pin connector. I attached the
device onto usb 5pin connector. Usb card is working properly but the
Card-reader device is not recognized as i get the message in XP windoze.
The usb stick which in plugged for practice into usb-slot of a
Card-reader is getting hot pretty fast so i unplagged it before some
unwanted consequences.
It might be that it needs 9pin connector for 'must'.
Maybe something else. ??
> If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would
> need to buy two adapter cables.
Usb reader has one pin connector which consists from two rows of pins:
5pin and 4pin(+1empty), so...it seems too complicated to put two
different pin-usb connectors on one device...maybe i could do it...but
seems seemeless.
>
> A different alternative to the adapter cables would be to
> buy a PCI USB2 card from someplace that sells them with
> internal pin headers on them. http://www.newegg.com sells a
> few like this, check the pictures of their PCI USB cards to
> see which ones have this pin header. They cost about $15.
> If Newegg is in the wrong country you can still look at the
> pictures to determine what brands and models have this pin
> header then search for these product names at websites of
> sellers in your area.
>
>> My usb connector is reserved with the case usb
>> connector, and i would need to connect this one too, the moterboard is
>> pcchips M830LR; it has only one usb connector-pin slot. ?
>
> You can find the specs and locations of the connectors on
> your motherboard by consulting the manual (or in this case,
> the manual for a similar version of the board if the manual
> for your exact version cannot be found):
>
> Direct download:
> http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite...eaid=2&LanID=2
>
> Manual Download Page:
> http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite...nuID=6&LanID=2
>
> If your board revision differs a lot from version 3.1b, then
> search for the board manual on this page as a Socket 462
> board and choosing 830** model number (830L since 8030LR is
> not listed):
>
> http://www.pcchips.com.tw/PCCWebSite...nuID=6&LanID=2
>
>
>
Thanks, i already done this, it doesn't helps me much, because of
allkind of different pin connectors, grounds, voltages etc. I know where
is the usb1 connector which is already taken by case. On one soultion
which i tried the Cardreader device showed me 4-removable devices in 'My
computer', but putting the usb stick nothing showed, nor with the
xd-card. Who would manage in all that, only an electrician, maybe...with
50years of experience. Jokes to the sides, i'm getting pretty close now,
i'll try to get a new cable of somethng, 9pin-to-usb if that exists, or
similar...It would be very grateful to know the names of 9pin cables,
9pin cable ?
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:42:51 +0200, Majki Majk
<comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>kony wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:25:28 +0200, Majki Majk
>> <comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1
>>> empty) pin cable?
>>
>> Yes, if you can find a USB pin adapter that converts it to a
>> USB plug. Here is one example:
>>
>> http://www.frontx.com/cpx508.html
>>
>
>That was on my mind too, but i had thoughts on 9pin-usb cable.
9 pins are used for two USB connections. I do not know if
your card reader needs two. Does it have a USB socket in it
as well as card reader slots? If not, I would suspect it
only needs one connector which is 4 pins in a row out of 5
(Or 4 plus the empty pin position), that they only made it a
9 pin so that people wouldn't accidentally plug it in
backwards... but I could be wrong.
>
>> If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong
>> positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in
>> your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the
>> locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire
>> positions.
>>
>Didn't understood this above with the prying up the locking tabs and
>swapping...
If the 5V, ground, data +, and data - pins are not in the
right positions to correspond to the pinout on your
motherboard, you can take a small thin tool like a knife
blade or a needle and gently flex up small plastic tabs on
the connector body to allow pulling out the wires and
switching their positions. In the following picture the
arrow points to where the small tool would be inserted to
flex the locking tabs. http://69.36.166.207/usr_1034/pins.gif
>Luckily i have the usb 2.0. card in the computer, it has 5pin connector
>as we are looking the similar, but wouldn't it must be 9pin connector?
As I wrote above, I would assume it only needs 4 or 5 pins
and try it, but you need to be sure the pins have the same
logical arrangement, the positions of 5V, data +, data -,
and ground.
>So, i now have a Card-reader device with connector and a cable
>9pin-to-9pin, and a usb card device with 5pin connector. I attached the
>device onto usb 5pin connector. Usb card is working properly but the
>Card-reader device is not recognized as i get the message in XP windoze.
>The usb stick which in plugged for practice into usb-slot of a
>Card-reader is getting hot pretty fast so i unplagged it before some
>unwanted consequences.
>It might be that it needs 9pin connector for 'must'.
>Maybe something else. ??
I don't know. I would use a multimeter to determine which
pins on the card are 5V and ground, and compare that to
which pins need to be 5V and ground on the card reader. An
examination of it's PCB might tell you, or if the cable has
colored wires then 5V is usually red, ground is usually
black, data + is usually green and data - is usually white.
>
>> If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would
>> need to buy two adapter cables.
>
>Usb reader has one pin connector which consists from two rows of pins:
>5pin and 4pin(+1empty), so...it seems too complicated to put two
>different pin-usb connectors on one device...maybe i could do it...but
>seems seemeless.
It isn't very complicated if you can figure out which pins
have which functions. There is another alternative, to just
buy a different card reader since they only cost about $10.
kony wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:42:51 +0200, Majki Majk
> <comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>
>> kony wrote:
>>> On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 00:25:28 +0200, Majki Majk
>>> <comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is it possible to connect this device differently then over that 8-9(1
>>>> empty) pin cable?
>>> Yes, if you can find a USB pin adapter that converts it to a
>>> USB plug. Here is one example:
>>>
>>> http://www.frontx.com/cpx508.html
>>>
>> That was on my mind too, but i had thoughts on 9pin-usb cable.
>
> 9 pins are used for two USB connections. I do not know if
> your card reader needs two. Does it have a USB socket in it
> as well as card reader slots? If not, I would suspect it
> only needs one connector which is 4 pins in a row out of 5
> (Or 4 plus the empty pin position), that they only made it a
> 9 pin so that people wouldn't accidentally plug it in
> backwards... but I could be wrong.
>
>
>
>>> If the wires in that adapter cable are in the wrong
>>> positions (compare it to the pinout of the USB pin header in
>>> your motherboard manual) then you can just gently pry up the
>>> locking tabs on the adapter connector and swap the wire
>>> positions.
>>>
>> Didn't understood this above with the prying up the locking tabs and
>> swapping...
>
> If the 5V, ground, data +, and data - pins are not in the
> right positions to correspond to the pinout on your
> motherboard, you can take a small thin tool like a knife
> blade or a needle and gently flex up small plastic tabs on
> the connector body to allow pulling out the wires and
> switching their positions. In the following picture the
> arrow points to where the small tool would be inserted to
> flex the locking tabs.
> http://69.36.166.207/usr_1034/pins.gif
>
>
>
>
>> Luckily i have the usb 2.0. card in the computer, it has 5pin connector
>> as we are looking the similar, but wouldn't it must be 9pin connector?
>
> As I wrote above, I would assume it only needs 4 or 5 pins
> and try it, but you need to be sure the pins have the same
> logical arrangement, the positions of 5V, data +, data -,
> and ground.
>
>
>
>> So, i now have a Card-reader device with connector and a cable
>> 9pin-to-9pin, and a usb card device with 5pin connector. I attached the
>> device onto usb 5pin connector. Usb card is working properly but the
>> Card-reader device is not recognized as i get the message in XP windoze.
>> The usb stick which in plugged for practice into usb-slot of a
>> Card-reader is getting hot pretty fast so i unplagged it before some
>> unwanted consequences.
>> It might be that it needs 9pin connector for 'must'.
>> Maybe something else. ??
>
> I don't know. I would use a multimeter to determine which
> pins on the card are 5V and ground, and compare that to
> which pins need to be 5V and ground on the card reader. An
> examination of it's PCB might tell you, or if the cable has
> colored wires then 5V is usually red, ground is usually
> black, data + is usually green and data - is usually white.
>
>
>
>>> If your USB reader needs two USB connections then you would
>>> need to buy two adapter cables.
>> Usb reader has one pin connector which consists from two rows of pins:
>> 5pin and 4pin(+1empty), so...it seems too complicated to put two
>> different pin-usb connectors on one device...maybe i could do it...but
>> seems seemeless.
>
> It isn't very complicated if you can figure out which pins
> have which functions. There is another alternative, to just
> buy a different card reader since they only cost about $10.
>
>
>
I made three photo pictures but couldn't sent them on your mail...
The device is working, and i mean by it that the data transmission is
wotking properly, all in one readerS(4 slots for about 8 or more
different cards), just the usb isn't working, it's not showing in the my
computer. I can see for different new disks and their wolume letters.
It is working on the 4-one empty pins -to-usb card 5pin port. Just the
5pins on the Card reader are not plugged into something, i might deal
that over the usb -to-5pin cable if i find such a cable. Yeah....thanks
for the help, much appreciated!
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:39:41 +0200, Majki Majk
<comitter@europe.com> wrote:
>I made three photo pictures but couldn't sent them on your mail...
My email address is fictional, since it would otherwise pick
up spam. You can post pictures to a free image hosting site
like http://imageshack.us/ , or google search for other free
image hosting sites, and link to them in your replies.
>The device is working, and i mean by it that the data transmission is
>wotking properly, all in one readerS(4 slots for about 8 or more
>different cards), just the usb isn't working, it's not showing in the my
>computer. I can see for different new disks and their wolume letters.
>It is working on the 4-one empty pins -to-usb card 5pin port. Just the
>5pins on the Card reader are not plugged into something, i might deal
>that over the usb -to-5pin cable if i find such a cable. Yeah....thanks
>for the help, much appreciated!
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:03:41 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
> PLEASE trip off the quote to make the message a little smaller (fewer line
>instead of 130 lines). Because the messages are too long so I usually skip
>to know what's going on, but if you could
>
>- Give a little more detail of your OS. Or if you use WinXP or later then
>it should auto-detect and probably no driver required.
>
>- If no extra drive shown in "My Computer" then it's telling you the system
>doesn't recognize the USB present. This is why I ask the above question.
>
>- If no extra drive in "My Computer" then give a little more detail about
>the Memory Reader. Like
>
> - Does it require AC adapter? Does the Adapter work?
>
> - Do you see the LEDs ON?
The problem seems to be one of not having the adapter so it
isn't electrically connected, not that there is any driver
or OS problem... or at least we won't be able to conclude
any other problem until the needed electrical connection is
made and go from there.
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:35:08 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
wrote:
>kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:03:41 -0500, Joel <Joel@NoSpam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > PLEASE trip off the quote to make the message a little smaller (fewer line
>> >instead of 130 lines). Because the messages are too long so I usually skip
>> >to know what's going on, but if you could
>> >
>> >- Give a little more detail of your OS. Or if you use WinXP or later then
>> >it should auto-detect and probably no driver required.
>> >
>> >- If no extra drive shown in "My Computer" then it's telling you the system
>> >doesn't recognize the USB present. This is why I ask the above question.
>> >
>> >- If no extra drive in "My Computer" then give a little more detail about
>> >the Memory Reader. Like
>> >
>> > - Does it require AC adapter? Does the Adapter work?
>> >
>> > - Do you see the LEDs ON?
>>
>> The problem seems to be one of not having the adapter so it
>> isn't electrically connected, not that there is any driver
>> or OS problem... or at least we won't be able to conclude
>> any other problem until the needed electrical connection is
>> made and go from there.
>
> Well, if it's the adapter then I guess either finding a third party
>adapter that works with the device else I dunno what else to go from here.
>Me? last week the AC adapter of one of my 4 USB hubs went south, and I just
>dragged myself to a local Wal-Mart to get another USB hub without asking
>question <bg>
Maybe, but adapter plus shipping is probably not much lower
in cost than a new card reader... since they're about $10
these days.
> these days.
>
> I dunno about the other but since I have been using electronic, digital
> cameras and others for way too long to have so many AC adapters of so many
> long gone devices. And all I need to do is finding the right fit and
> correct +/- and that would do.
>
> Or as I mentioned above just go to store to grab another one, and either
> USB hub or Card Reader usually cost around $15-20 a pop.
I manged to f ind a great utility for working device, now it's not
showing just the volumes as hdd-s than volumes in picutures as the cards
are supposed to be in real, nice thing!
For now i'm satisfied, i have enough usb connectors, more or less.
USB all in one card reader 
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