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Old 08-09-2007, 02:14 PM
Jack Gillis
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Default Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP

I recently bought an Iomega External HD (100G) drive to use primarily on my
XP systems. I came out of the box formatted FAT32. As I understand it from
Google Groups, this drive can be plugged into a Mac and used for both
reading and writing to share files between the XP and Mac machines.

Is this correct?



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Old 08-09-2007, 02:17 PM
Jack Gillis
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Default Re: Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP


"Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
news:13bm8a884dnpbb1@corp.supernews.com...
>I recently bought an Iomega External HD (100G) drive to use primarily on my
>XP systems. I came out of the box formatted FAT32. As I understand it
>from Google Groups, this drive can be plugged into a Mac and used for both
>reading and writing to share files between the XP and Mac machines.
>
> Is this correct?
>


I've been boxed in most of my life but what I meant to say was 'It came out
of the box....', not 'I came out of the box....'



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Old 08-09-2007, 05:35 PM
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Default Re: Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP

Jack Gillis wrote:
> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
> news:13bm8a884dnpbb1@corp.supernews.com...
>> I recently bought an Iomega External HD (100G) drive to use primarily on my
>> XP systems. I came out of the box formatted FAT32. As I understand it
>>from Google Groups, this drive can be plugged into a Mac and used for both
>> reading and writing to share files between the XP and Mac machines.
>>
>> Is this correct?
>>

>
> I've been boxed in most of my life but what I meant to say was 'It came out
> of the box....', not 'I came out of the box....'
>
>


http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75320

"Moving hard drive

While it is possible to move some IDE PC hard drives into some model Macintosh
computers, this is not the recommended method of transferring data and it should
only be used by experienced computer users who understand how to install and
format PC hard drives. It is only possible to read FAT and FAT32 formatted drives
in a Macintosh. Do not use NTFS formatted drives in a Macintosh computer.

Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 work with local NTFS-formatted volumes. The volume will be
read-only.

Warning: NTFS formatted drives cannot be used in a Macintosh (except as read-only
with Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 as noted above). If you attempt to use a NTFS formatted
disk, upon starting up the Mac OS will prompt you to format the drive. Do not format
the drive, doing so will erase the contents of the drive. If you have an NTFS
formatted disk, you must use another method to transfer the data from the PC to the
Macintosh."

FAT32 is recommended here as well, for externally connected disks.

http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/M...Windows_TB.pdf

The best way to search the apple site, is not using Apple search engines.
I use http://www.altavista.com/web/adv , set domain to "apple.com" and
enter the search terms in the top line. This method is also recommended
when searching sites having crappy search facilities such as the old ATI
or AMD.

Paul

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Old 08-09-2007, 06:35 PM
Jack Gillis
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Default Re: Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP


"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f9fj2l$eqh$1@aioe.org...
> Jack Gillis wrote:
>> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
>> news:13bm8a884dnpbb1@corp.supernews.com...
>>> I recently bought an Iomega External HD (100G) drive to use primarily on
>>> my XP systems. I came out of the box formatted FAT32. As I understand
>>> it from Google Groups, this drive can be plugged into a Mac and used
>>> for both reading and writing to share files between the XP and Mac
>>> machines.
>>>
>>> Is this correct?
>>>

>>
>> I've been boxed in most of my life but what I meant to say was 'It came
>> out of the box....', not 'I came out of the box....'

>
> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75320
>
> "Moving hard drive
>
> While it is possible to move some IDE PC hard drives into some model
> Macintosh
> computers, this is not the recommended method of transferring data and
> it should
> only be used by experienced computer users who understand how to
> install and
> format PC hard drives. It is only possible to read FAT and FAT32
> formatted drives
> in a Macintosh. Do not use NTFS formatted drives in a Macintosh
> computer.
>
> Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 work with local NTFS-formatted volumes. The
> volume will be
> read-only.
>
> Warning: NTFS formatted drives cannot be used in a Macintosh (except as
> read-only
> with Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 as noted above). If you attempt to use a
> NTFS formatted
> disk, upon starting up the Mac OS will prompt you to format the drive.
> Do not format
> the drive, doing so will erase the contents of the drive. If you have
> an NTFS
> formatted disk, you must use another method to transfer the data from
> the PC to the
> Macintosh."
>
> FAT32 is recommended here as well, for externally connected disks.
>
> http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/M...Windows_TB.pdf
>
> The best way to search the apple site, is not using Apple search engines.
> I use http://www.altavista.com/web/adv , set domain to "apple.com" and
> enter the search terms in the top line. This method is also recommended
> when searching sites having crappy search facilities such as the old ATI
> or AMD.
>
> Paul


Thank you.

I must not have made my question clear and I apologize. The Iomega External
Drive I am talking about is an USB drive factory formatted to FAT32. Does
that make any difference? I expected maybe I could just plug it into the
Mac's USB port and go.



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Old 08-09-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP

Jack Gillis wrote:
> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f9fj2l$eqh$1@aioe.org...
>> Jack Gillis wrote:
>>> "Jack Gillis" <XXXXXXXX@widomaker.com> wrote in message
>>> news:13bm8a884dnpbb1@corp.supernews.com...
>>>> I recently bought an Iomega External HD (100G) drive to use primarily on
>>>> my XP systems. I came out of the box formatted FAT32. As I understand
>>>> it from Google Groups, this drive can be plugged into a Mac and used
>>>> for both reading and writing to share files between the XP and Mac
>>>> machines.
>>>>
>>>> Is this correct?
>>>>
>>> I've been boxed in most of my life but what I meant to say was 'It came
>>> out of the box....', not 'I came out of the box....'

>> http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75320
>>
>> "Moving hard drive
>>
>> While it is possible to move some IDE PC hard drives into some model
>> Macintosh
>> computers, this is not the recommended method of transferring data and
>> it should
>> only be used by experienced computer users who understand how to
>> install and
>> format PC hard drives. It is only possible to read FAT and FAT32
>> formatted drives
>> in a Macintosh. Do not use NTFS formatted drives in a Macintosh
>> computer.
>>
>> Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 work with local NTFS-formatted volumes. The
>> volume will be
>> read-only.
>>
>> Warning: NTFS formatted drives cannot be used in a Macintosh (except as
>> read-only
>> with Mac OS X 10.3 and 10.4 as noted above). If you attempt to use a
>> NTFS formatted
>> disk, upon starting up the Mac OS will prompt you to format the drive.
>> Do not format
>> the drive, doing so will erase the contents of the drive. If you have
>> an NTFS
>> formatted disk, you must use another method to transfer the data from
>> the PC to the
>> Macintosh."
>>
>> FAT32 is recommended here as well, for externally connected disks.
>>
>> http://images.apple.com/macosx/pdf/M...Windows_TB.pdf
>>
>> The best way to search the apple site, is not using Apple search engines.
>> I use http://www.altavista.com/web/adv , set domain to "apple.com" and
>> enter the search terms in the top line. This method is also recommended
>> when searching sites having crappy search facilities such as the old ATI
>> or AMD.
>>
>> Paul

>
> Thank you.
>
> I must not have made my question clear and I apologize. The Iomega External
> Drive I am talking about is an USB drive factory formatted to FAT32. Does
> that make any difference? I expected maybe I could just plug it into the
> Mac's USB port and go.
>
>


Yes, plug and go with a USB FAT32 drive.

The only minor caveat, is you'll occasionally find that the MacOS adds files
to the folders visited. That records things like Finder viewing information.
I don't remember all the details now.

There was a time, when you could plug in the drive, but there would be issues
with long file names. As far as I know, you should be in reasonably good
shape on that account. If you plan on using extremely long file names, you
may want to research what the limits are on MacOSX and Windows, to see
if there are minor differences in max length. Back in MacOS 9, the length limit
was really annoying.

The reason I looked up the above, was to see if NTFS support had changed.
And it doesn't really look like it.

Paul

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Old 08-10-2007, 11:36 AM
Jack Gillis
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Default Re: Using an Iomega External (USB) with both a Mac and XP


"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f9fsq0$9ca$1@aioe.org...

Snip

> Yes, plug and go with a USB FAT32 drive.
>
> The only minor caveat, is you'll occasionally find that the MacOS adds
> files
> to the folders visited. That records things like Finder viewing
> information.
> I don't remember all the details now.
>
> There was a time, when you could plug in the drive, but there would be
> issues
> with long file names. As far as I know, you should be in reasonably good
> shape on that account. If you plan on using extremely long file names, you
> may want to research what the limits are on MacOSX and Windows, to see
> if there are minor differences in max length. Back in MacOS 9, the length
> limit
> was really annoying.
>
> The reason I looked up the above, was to see if NTFS support had changed.
> And it doesn't really look like it.
>
> Paul


Thank you very much.



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