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Old 07-19-2008, 02:53 AM
Dave Smith
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Default What are Seagate platters made of?

Just curious.

I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
made of?

Thanks.

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Old 07-19-2008, 03:33 AM
Paul
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Dave Smith wrote:
> Just curious.
>
> I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
> receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
> a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
> made of?
>
> Thanks.


Komag used to make platters for other companies. AFAIK, there
have been some recent changes in who owns what, so it is hard
to guess who does it now, or whether it is done in house
(with no web pages to explain it).

http://web.archive.org/web/200708230...y/process.html

At any given time in the market, there could be several generations
of technology in use. So you may find more than one way of
making platters as well.

Paul

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Old 07-19-2008, 09:00 AM
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Have a look here 'About Hard drives'
(http://www.storagereview.com/map/lm.cgi/platters), you'll probably want
the third item, 'Platter Substrate Materials'.

I'm not sure about Seagate but platters are either glass or aluminum
coated with magnetic grain, see 'Wilkipedia'
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_disk_platter).

Davy



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Old 07-19-2008, 10:19 PM
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
<Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:

>Just curious.
>
>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>made of?
>
>Thanks.



Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?

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Old 07-19-2008, 10:33 PM
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kony wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Just curious.
>>
>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>made of?
>>
>>Thanks.

>
> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?


Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.

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Old 07-20-2008, 01:54 AM
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:33:33 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>kony wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
>> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>>
>>>Just curious.
>>>
>>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>>made of?
>>>
>>>Thanks.

>>
>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?

>
>Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.


Um... The first line reads "Just curious."

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Old 07-20-2008, 03:32 AM
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Dave Smith wrote:

> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:33:33 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>kony wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
>>> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just curious.
>>>>
>>>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>>>made of?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?

>>
>>Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.

>
> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."


Curiosity always has a motive.

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Old 07-20-2008, 06:11 AM
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VanguardLH wrote:
> Dave Smith wrote:
>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:> >
>>> kony wrote:
>>>

... snip about a Seagate Barracuda 300GB ...
>>>>
>>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?
>>>
>>> Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some
>>> money.

>>
>> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."

>
> Curiosity always has a motive.


Such as the urge for knowledge.

--
[mail]: Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
[page]: <http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>
Try the download section.



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Old 07-20-2008, 07:42 AM
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"CBFalconer" <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> VanguardLH wrote:
>> Dave Smith wrote:
>>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:> >
>>>> kony wrote:
>>>>

> ... snip about a Seagate Barracuda 300GB ...
>>>>>
>>>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?
>>>>
>>>> Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some
>>>> money.
>>>
>>> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."

>>
>> Curiosity always has a motive.

>
> Such as the urge for knowledge.
>
> --


Perhaps:

http://www.instructables.com/id/Buil...g-hard-drive-/

http://hackedgadgets.com/2006/05/26/...tesla-turbine/

http://www.greenoptimistic.com/2008/...rd-disk-drive/

Luck;
Ken



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Old 07-20-2008, 01:06 PM
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:32:00 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>Dave Smith wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:33:33 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>
>>>kony wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
>>>> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Just curious.
>>>>>
>>>>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>>>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>>>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>>>>made of?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?
>>>
>>>Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.

>>
>> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."

>
>Curiosity always has a motive.


What a silly, sad thing to say.

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Old 07-20-2008, 02:01 PM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:56 -0700, Dave Smith
<Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:32:00 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:33:33 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>>
>>>>kony wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
>>>>> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just curious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>>>>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>>>>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>>>>>made of?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?
>>>>
>>>>Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.
>>>
>>> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."

>>
>>Curiosity always has a motive.

>
>What a silly, sad thing to say.


You must be young and foolish to write this. Curiosity does
always have a motive, even if it is only a wasteful vanity
of knowing, but in that case it is even more foolish to
bother learning something to which there is no expected
application.

Basically, we all have finite time here on earth. You can
spend that time learning something useful to your goals, or
spend it on random *trivia* if you have no specific goal.
In the former case, it was worth your time. In the latter,
probably not - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.

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Old 07-20-2008, 11:26 PM
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"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
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> - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
> head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.


And you avoid this, how? In fact, most of the "useful" things
I've learned came buried in trivia. Add to that, we usually have
little control over what stays and what goes. If you have a
non-alcoholic means of purging the trivia, let me know; there
seems to be an ever increasing amount building up in there.

Luck;
Ken



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Old 07-21-2008, 02:22 AM
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"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:mjd68499mgk4ddl54vfqh142msjfjiruqh@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> > - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
>> > head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.

>>
>> And you avoid this, how? In fact, most of the "useful" things
>> I've learned came buried in trivia. Add to that, we usually have
>> little control over what stays and what goes. If you have a
>> non-alcoholic means of purging the trivia, let me know; there
>> seems to be an ever increasing amount building up in there.

>
> Then start feeding us the answers you learned from trivia <bg>


Not a fan, I take it? There is plenty of that in my posts, "kony"
might even suggest most of my posts must have such a source.

Luck;
Ken



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Old 07-21-2008, 02:36 AM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:26:44 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>news:mjd68499mgk4ddl54vfqh142msjfjiruqh@4ax.com.. .
>
>
>> - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
>> head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.

>
> And you avoid this, how?


By pursing things that at least have a reasonable chance of
being useful.


> In fact, most of the "useful" things
> I've learned came buried in trivia.


Very unlikely, almost impossible actually.


>Add to that, we usually have
>little control over what stays and what goes. If you have a
>non-alcoholic means of purging the trivia, let me know; there
>seems to be an ever increasing amount building up in there.


We have a fair amount of control over what stays, in the
practice and repetition of it. Trivia is in fact easily
forgotten... you just don't realize the extent to which you
have forgotten because you don't remember it. For example,
do you remember the building numbers on all buildings you've
ever seen them on? Do you remember the name of the plumber
in the phone book which was three slots above the one you
*did* call? Do you remember the closing credits on most
movies?

The mind has the ability to distinguish and focus on
information perceived useful and not focus so much on the
rest.

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Old 07-21-2008, 02:39 AM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:22:33 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
>news:r8h784ta82mbt14bluvl874nubm6nmgkr4@4ax.com.. .
>> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mjd68499mgk4ddl54vfqh142msjfjiruqh@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> > - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
>>> > head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.
>>>
>>> And you avoid this, how? In fact, most of the "useful" things
>>> I've learned came buried in trivia. Add to that, we usually have
>>> little control over what stays and what goes. If you have a
>>> non-alcoholic means of purging the trivia, let me know; there
>>> seems to be an ever increasing amount building up in there.

>>
>> Then start feeding us the answers you learned from trivia <bg>

>
> Not a fan, I take it? There is plenty of that in my posts, "kony"
>might even suggest most of my posts must have such a source.
>
>Luck;
> Ken
>


You simply don't realize the extent to which you do weed out
and forget trivia, constantly. You remember your own name,
right? Do you remember the name of the person who rang up
your groceries 9 months ago? Did you try to memorize the
name of the grocery cashier? If not, why not? It's as I
wrote, until you have that need you are not deeming it
worthwhile to remember, or know at all.

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Old 07-21-2008, 04:21 AM
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On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith <Sallydog@cox.net>
wrote:

>Just curious.
>
>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>made of?
>
>Thanks.


Thanks very much to those who gave relevant replies.

Dave

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Old 07-21-2008, 04:55 AM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 09:01:40 -0400, kony <spam@spam.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 05:06:56 -0700, Dave Smith
><Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:32:00 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>
>>>Dave Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 16:33:33 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>kony wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith
>>>>>> <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Just curious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>>>>>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>>>>>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>>>>>>made of?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some type of coated, aluminum alloy base material. Probably
>>>>>> a trade secret. Does it necessarily matter?
>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe he thinks he'll take them to a scrap yard to get some money.
>>>>
>>>> Um... The first line reads "Just curious."
>>>
>>>Curiosity always has a motive.

>>
>>What a silly, sad thing to say.

>
>You must be young and foolish to write this. Curiosity does
>always have a motive, even if it is only a wasteful vanity
>of knowing, but in that case it is even more foolish to
>bother learning something to which there is no expected
>application.
>
>Basically, we all have finite time here on earth. You can
>spend that time learning something useful to your goals, or
>spend it on random *trivia* if you have no specific goal.
>In the former case, it was worth your time. In the latter,
>probably not - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
>head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.


Hardly young (58) but maybe foolish. The only prize I seek is to
enjoy my finite time here any way I can. One of the things I enjoy is
simply learning. If there's something wrong with that I guess I'm
guilty.

*Shrug.*

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:27 PM
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"Dave Smith" wrote:
> The only prize I seek is to
> enjoy my finite time here any way I can. One of the things I enjoy is
> simply learning. If there's something wrong with that I guess I'm
> guilty.


That makes two of us.

Jon



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Old 07-21-2008, 06:42 PM
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"Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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> "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> "Joel" <Joel@NoSpam.com> wrote in message
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>> > "Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> "kony" <spam@spam.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:mjd68499mgk4ddl54vfqh142msjfjiruqh@4ax.com...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > - there's no prize for dying of old age with a
>> >> > head full of information you didn't need, didn't apply.
>> >>
>> >> And you avoid this, how? In fact, most of the "useful" things
>> >> I've learned came buried in trivia. Add to that, we usually have
>> >> little control over what stays and what goes. If you have a
>> >> non-alcoholic means of purging the trivia, let me know; there
>> >> seems to be an ever increasing amount building up in there.
>> >
>> > Then start feeding us the answers you learned from trivia <bg>

>>
>> Not a fan, I take it? There is plenty of that in my posts, "kony"
>> might even suggest most of my posts must have such a source.
>>
>> Luck;
>> Ken

>
> Which one? <bg> this is the 2nd time I remember seeing your name here.
> Actually I didn't pay any attention to any poster's name until start
> response to the message I checked and see your name twice.


Google my name "Ken Maltby", you may find a few hits.

Luck;
Ken



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Old 07-21-2008, 08:18 PM
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On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:55:03 -0700, Dave Smith
<Sallydog@cox.net> wrote:


>
>Hardly young (58) but maybe foolish. The only prize I seek is to
>enjoy my finite time here any way I can. One of the things I enjoy is
>simply learning. If there's something wrong with that I guess I'm
>guilty.
>
>*Shrug.*



The pursuit of knowledge wasn't the potentially foolish
part, it was the remark to a prior statement by VanguardLH
that there is some motive, even if you don't fully
understand it.

Yes some learn just for the sake of it, but nobody has the
time to learn *everything* so there is a motive causing you
to focus on learning this, versus something else with that
portion of your time.

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Old 07-22-2008, 06:14 AM
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If you still have a dead one take out the platter and drill holes in it
saving the shavings in a small capped bottle or phile and send it to a lab
for testing after finding out how much they need for the test and making
shure you send 2 to3 times that amount. The fee should be from $50 to about
$200 depending on if you wish to know the trace elements too. The more you
wish to know the more it will cost.

"Dave Smith" <Sallydog@cox.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:42 -0700, Dave Smith <Sallydog@cox.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Just curious.
>>
>>I had a Seagate Barracuda 300GB Ver. 7200.8 drive die on me. No
>>receipt so I took it apart. The platters (three of them) are made of
>>a fairly soft but rigid metal. Anyone out there know what they're
>>made of?
>>
>>Thanks.

>
> Thanks very much to those who gave relevant replies.
>
> Dave




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