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Old 02-01-2008, 02:42 PM
jay lunis
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Default Where is my hard drive?

HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device
in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was
plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with
the USB HD . . . nothing.
Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
How do I troubleshoot this?

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Old 02-01-2008, 03:12 PM
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"jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my Western
> Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device in
> a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was plugged in
> and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with the USB HD . .
> . nothing.
> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
> How do I troubleshoot this?


Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
protect the content.

It's also possible that it found it without even showing any notification.
If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?

Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:

Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment

Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and status.




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Old 02-01-2008, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: Where is my hard drive?

Calab wrote:
> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my Western
>> Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
>> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device in
>> a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was plugged in
>> and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with the USB HD . .
>> . nothing.
>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>
> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
> protect the content.
>
> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any notification.
> If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>
> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>
> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>
> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and status.
>
>
>


Encryption - none

Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
Volume - blank
Type - Basic
File system - RAW
Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
Online
What have I learned?

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Old 02-01-2008, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: Where is my hard drive?

Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to reboot
the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go into the bios
and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard drive though




"jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Calab wrote:
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
>>> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device
>>> in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was
>>> plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with
>>> the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>>
>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>> protect the content.
>>
>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>>
>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>>
>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>
>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>> status.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Encryption - none
>
> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital. The
> unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G HD.
> Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
> Volume - blank
> Type - Basic
> File system - RAW
> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
> Online
> What have I learned?




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Old 02-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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RBM wrote:
> Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to reboot
> the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go into the bios
> and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard drive though
>
>
>
>
> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3JHoj.30$ED.4@newsfe06.lga...
>> Calab wrote:
>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
>>>> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device
>>>> in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was
>>>> plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with
>>>> the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>>> protect the content.
>>>
>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>>>
>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>>>
>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>
>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>> status.
>>>
>>>
>>>

>> Encryption - none
>>
>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital. The
>> unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G HD.
>> Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>> Volume - blank
>> Type - Basic
>> File system - RAW
>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>> Online
>> What have I learned?

>
>

OK, rebooted. Still not showing in Explorer. No change in Disk Management.

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Old 02-01-2008, 04:50 PM
Pen
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Default Re: Where is my hard drive?

jay lunis wrote:
> RBM wrote:
>> Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to reboot
>> the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go into the bios
>> and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard drive though
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3JHoj.30$ED.4@newsfe06.lga...
>>> Calab wrote:
>>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
>>>>> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device
>>>>> in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was
>>>>> plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with
>>>>> the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>>>> protect the content.
>>>>
>>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>>>>
>>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>>
>>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>>> status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Encryption - none
>>>
>>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital. The
>>> unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G HD.
>>> Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>>> Volume - blank
>>> Type - Basic
>>> File system - RAW
>>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>>> Online
>>> What have I learned?

>>

> OK, rebooted. Still not showing in Explorer. No change in Disk Management.

I've had the exact same problem and fixed
it by assigning a drive letter. I used Partition Magic,
but Disk Management will do the same thing.
ControlPanel/Administrative Tools/Computer
Management/Storage/DiskManagement

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Old 02-01-2008, 04:54 PM
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Default Re: Where is my hard drive?

leave the drive attached, reboot the PC and immediately go into bios, and
see if the drive is recognized there



"jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> RBM wrote:
>> Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to reboot
>> the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go into the
>> bios and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard drive
>> though
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3JHoj.30$ED.4@newsfe06.lga...
>>> Calab wrote:
>>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>>>>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>>>>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>>>>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>>>>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>>>> protect the content.
>>>>
>>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>>>> there?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>>>> do:
>>>>
>>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>>
>>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>>> status.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Encryption - none
>>>
>>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
>>> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
>>> HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>>> Volume - blank
>>> Type - Basic
>>> File system - RAW
>>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>>> Online
>>> What have I learned?

>>
>>

> OK, rebooted. Still not showing in Explorer. No change in Disk Management.




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Old 02-01-2008, 05:39 PM
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>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>>
>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>>
>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>
>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>> status.


> Encryption - none
>
> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital. The
> unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G HD.
> Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
> Volume - blank
> Type - Basic
> File system - RAW
> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
> Online
> What have I learned?


You have learned that your enclosure is working fine.

The problem is that this PC doesn't understand how the drive is formatted.
Did you need to use any utilities on the old PC to make the drive work? What
does the Disk Management say on the old PC for this drive?

If it were me, I'd simply plug back into the old PC and move all the files
off that drive to a safe location. Once that's done, plug into the Vista PC
and use the Disk Management to delete and recreate the partition on that
drive and format it. Once formatted you can move the files back.



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Old 02-01-2008, 05:53 PM
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RBM wrote:
> leave the drive attached, reboot the PC and immediately go into bios, and
> see if the drive is recognized there
>
>
>
> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:COIoj.525$az7.202@newsfe07.lga...
>> RBM wrote:
>>> Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to reboot
>>> the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go into the
>>> bios and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard drive
>>> though
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:3JHoj.30$ED.4@newsfe06.lga...
>>>> Calab wrote:
>>>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>>>>>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>>>>>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>>>>>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>>>>>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>>>>> protect the content.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>>>>> there?
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>>>>> do:
>>>>>
>>>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>>>
>>>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>>>> status.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Encryption - none
>>>>
>>>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
>>>> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
>>>> HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>>>> Volume - blank
>>>> Type - Basic
>>>> File system - RAW
>>>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>>>> Online
>>>> What have I learned?
>>>

>> OK, rebooted. Still not showing in Explorer. No change in Disk Management.

>
>


>>go into bios, and see if the drive is recognized there

How do I do that?

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Old 02-01-2008, 06:42 PM
RBM
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Default Re: Where is my hard drive?

Jay, I'm no expert so I don't feel competent in directing you into the bios.
You can screw up a lot of stuff there.



"jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> RBM wrote:
>> leave the drive attached, reboot the PC and immediately go into bios, and
>> see if the drive is recognized there
>>
>>
>>
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:COIoj.525$az7.202@newsfe07.lga...
>>> RBM wrote:
>>>> Whenever I'm screwing around with accessory hard drives, I have to
>>>> reboot the PC for them to be recognized. When I do this, I have to go
>>>> into the bios and tell the machine not to boot from the accessory hard
>>>> drive though
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:3JHoj.30$ED.4@newsfe06.lga...
>>>>> Calab wrote:
>>>>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>>>>>>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>>>>>>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>>>>>>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>>>>>>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>>>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC
>>>>>> to protect the content.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>>>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>>>>>> there?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>>>>>> do:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>>>>> status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Encryption - none
>>>>>
>>>>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
>>>>> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show
>>>>> 120G HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>>>>> Volume - blank
>>>>> Type - Basic
>>>>> File system - RAW
>>>>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>>>>> Online
>>>>> What have I learned?
>>>>
>>> OK, rebooted. Still not showing in Explorer. No change in Disk
>>> Management.

>>
>>

>
> >>go into bios, and see if the drive is recognized there

> How do I do that?




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Old 02-01-2008, 08:09 PM
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jay lunis wrote:
> Calab wrote:
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my Western
>>> Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it to
>>> the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a device in
>>> a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it was plugged in
>>> and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But with the USB HD . .
>>> . nothing.
>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC to
>> protect the content.
>>
>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any notification.
>> If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive there?
>>
>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you do:
>>
>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>
>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and status.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Encryption - none
>
> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
> HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
> Volume - blank
> Type - Basic
> File system - RAW
> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
> Online
> What have I learned?

You need to assign a drive letter. Read my other post. It';s not hard.

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Old 02-01-2008, 09:21 PM
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>> Encryption - none
>>
>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
>> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
>> HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>> Volume - blank
>> Type - Basic
>> File system - RAW
>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>> Online
>> What have I learned?


> You need to assign a drive letter. Read my other post. It';s not hard.


As long as the file system is "RAW", there is nothing you can do with the
data on that hard drive. You won't be able to assign a drive letter to it.
Your only real hope is to put it back on the old PC and copy the data from
the drive.

It's very odd that the old PC can use the drive, but not the new PC.



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Old 02-03-2008, 01:45 AM
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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Calab" typed:
> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>
> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC
> to protect the content.
>
> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
> there?
> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
> do:
> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>
> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
> status.


Wrong.

First question in this situation is; "Did you set the master/slave jumper to
the correct setting and is the drive on the right connector on the IDE
cable."

It's great that you're trying to help people and all that but it requires a
certain knowledge to do that...
--
Shaun.



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Old 02-03-2008, 01:48 AM
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Somewhere on teh intarweb "~misfit~" typed:
> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Calab" typed:
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>>
>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC
>> to protect the content.
>>
>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>> there?
>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>> do:
>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>
>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>> status.



Please ignore. Apologies.

I missed the "USB" part in the above, my excuse, I'm in between jobs and am
having a quick sit-down. Obviously too much on my mind.

Oh well, back to the grindstone.....
--
Shaun.

> Wrong.
>
> First question in this situation is; "Did you set the master/slave
> jumper to the correct setting and is the drive on the right connector
> on the IDE cable."
>
> It's great that you're trying to help people and all that but it
> requires a certain knowledge to do that...





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Old 02-03-2008, 02:04 AM
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"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
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> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Calab" typed:
>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved it
>>> to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I plugged a
>>> device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse adapter when it
>>> was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it was plugged in. But
>>> with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>> How do I troubleshoot this?

>>
>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC
>> to protect the content.
>>
>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>> there?
>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>> do:
>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>
>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>> status.

>
> Wrong.
>
> First question in this situation is; "Did you set the master/slave jumper
> to the correct setting and is the drive on the right connector on the IDE
> cable."
>
> It's great that you're trying to help people and all that but it requires
> a certain knowledge to do that...


Wrong.

First question is "did you actually read their posting?"

It's a USB drive that was functional on another PC. No master/slave settings
involved. No IDE connector involved.

BTW, there is no "right connector on the IDE cable". A properly jumpered
drive will work equally well on either plug.



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Old 02-03-2008, 04:00 AM
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 03:04:51 GMT, "Calab" <myspam@csd.ca>
wrote:


>It's a USB drive that was functional on another PC. No master/slave settings
>involved. No IDE connector involved.
>


So the drive is SATA inside the enclosure? If not, it'll
have jumpers though I guess they shouldn't need changed if
it had worked as-is previously.



>BTW, there is no "right connector on the IDE cable". A properly jumpered
>drive will work equally well on either plug.
>


Maybe, but the spec clearly states not to put it in the
middle because if there is no device on the end there is no
termination and you'd get signal reflections that can screw
with data integrity, or really I mean cause resends.

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Old 02-03-2008, 06:00 AM
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Somewhere on teh intarweb "Calab" typed:
> "~misfit~" <misfit61nz@yahoot.com.au> wrote in message
> news:47a52ace$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
>> Somewhere on teh intarweb "Calab" typed:
>>> "jay lunis" <jay.lunis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:y5Hoj.7$l_3.3@newsfe02.lga...
>>>> HP desktop PC with Vista Home Premium
>>>> I do not know if my problem is with the PC, Vista, or my HD.
>>>> Bought the HP a few weeks ago and, today, got around to moving my
>>>> Western Digital USB HD to the new PC. Or, I tried to.
>>>> It was working perfectly in the old PC. Disconnected it and moved
>>>> it to the new PC. Nothing. Vista does not seem to detect I
>>>> plugged a device in a USB port. It 'found' the wireless mouse
>>>> adapter when it was plugged in and the bluetooth dongle when it
>>>> was plugged in. But with the USB HD . . . nothing.
>>>> Tried Control Panel|Add Hardware. No new Hardware Detected.
>>>> How do I troubleshoot this?
>>>
>>> Any encryption on this drive? It may not let you move it to a new PC
>>> to protect the content.
>>>
>>> It's also possible that it found it without even showing any
>>> notification. If you go into Drive Management do you see the drive
>>> there?
>>> Unfortunately not sure of where to find this in Vista, but in XP you
>>> do:
>>> Right click "My computer" -> Manage -> Disk Managment
>>>
>>> Each drive will be shown on the right side, with drive letters and
>>> status.

>>
>> Wrong.
>>
>> First question in this situation is; "Did you set the master/slave
>> jumper to the correct setting and is the drive on the right
>> connector on the IDE cable."
>>
>> It's great that you're trying to help people and all that but it
>> requires a certain knowledge to do that...

>
> Wrong.
>
> First question is "did you actually read their posting?"
>
> It's a USB drive that was functional on another PC. No master/slave
> settings involved. No IDE connector involved.


Feel good Calab? I realised my error and posted a retraction and apology a
full 16 minutes before you chose to ignore it and reply to my previous post.

> BTW, there is no "right connector on the IDE cable". A properly
> jumpered drive will work equally well on either plug.


So you disagree then agree in the same sentence. Properly jumpered being
master at the end, slave in the middle. If you change the jumper
*or*connector around without changing both then it's not "properly jumpered"
so you're in fact saying nothing at all.

What a 'complicated' person!
--
Shaun.



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Old 02-03-2008, 05:46 PM
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>> First question is "did you actually read their posting?"
>>
>> It's a USB drive that was functional on another PC. No master/slave
>> settings involved. No IDE connector involved.

>
> Feel good Calab? I realised my error and posted a retraction and apology a
> full 16 minutes before you chose to ignore it and reply to my previous
> post.


Sorry.. but I don't read ALL the threads in a group before I post.

>> BTW, there is no "right connector on the IDE cable". A properly
>> jumpered drive will work equally well on either plug.

>
> So you disagree then agree in the same sentence. Properly jumpered being
> master at the end, slave in the middle. If you change the jumper
> *or*connector around without changing both then it's not "properly
> jumpered" so you're in fact saying nothing at all.


A properly jumpered drive has nothing to do with drive position. Jumper it
as master if that is what you want, then put it anywhere on the cable. Ditto
for slave drives.

I do admit that Kony has a point about signal reflections though. To avoid
case clutter, I always cut my cables short if there is only a single drive.
Never considered that the extra cabling could cause signalling issues.



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Old 02-04-2008, 12:15 AM
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"Calab" <myspam@csd.ca> wrote in message
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>>> Encryption - none
>>>
>>> Does show up in Drive Management, I think. My USB is Western Digital.
>>> The unknown drive in Disk Management is Western Digital. Both show 120G
>>> HD. Sound like it to me. Here is the Disk Management data
>>> Volume - blank
>>> Type - Basic
>>> File system - RAW
>>> Status - Healthy (active, Primary partition)
>>> Online
>>> What have I learned?

>
>> You need to assign a drive letter. Read my other post. It';s not hard.

>
> As long as the file system is "RAW", there is nothing you can do with the
> data on that hard drive. You won't be able to assign a drive letter to it.
> Your only real hope is to put it back on the old PC and copy the data from
> the drive.
>
> It's very odd that the old PC can use the drive, but not the new PC.


How do you know it still works in the old PC?

>
>




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