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Old 11-22-2006, 07:43 PM
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Default Wireless mouse with longest battery life?

My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).

Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?

I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.

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Old 11-22-2006, 08:02 PM
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BestMouse <best@mouse.com> posted this esurient inquiry in
news:asc9m2hu4lp1i4c3god1g2suoqtqasofa4@4ax.com:

> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.



I've got a Micosoft which shuts itself off when you don't move it, and
quick as you put some motion to it, it lights back up. It uses 2 AAA's, and
instead of the provided alkalines, I use NiCads and recharge them.


Best wishes to you and yours for a safe and joyous holiday season.

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would we be so cavalier about cutting them down?
We might be so mean,
if they screamed all the time, for no good grounds.

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Old 11-22-2006, 08:20 PM
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"BestMouse" <best@mouse.com> wrote in message
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> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.


I have seen Wireless Mice where the USB receiver also doubles as a charger,
the idea being you just drop the mouse into the receiver/charger while you
are not using it
I've seen Logitec ones, not doubt there are other reputable brands.
I personally have a no name Supermarket one that has not gone flat in over a
year by just popping it into it's cradle when I not in use. (Not a
particularly good mouse though)

Best
Paul.



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Old 11-22-2006, 09:39 PM
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"BestMouse" <best@mouse.com> wrote in message
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> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.


I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I have had.
It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me cause I always
had problems with those. I keep a battery recharger behind my desk with 2
spare batteries topped off. Even using the rechargeable batteries it goes
about a month of heavy usage before I swap them out. I guess if I used
regular batteries they would last 6 months.



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Old 11-22-2006, 10:41 PM
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The BEST wireless mouse overall and the one that has it's batteries last the
longest is the Microsoft Wireless 6000 Laser Mouse. The Duracell batteries
last well over 6 months of all day, every day use.

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"BestMouse" <best@mouse.com> wrote in message
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> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.




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Old 11-23-2006, 12:56 AM
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BestMouse <best@mouse.com> wrote in
news:asc9m2hu4lp1i4c3god1g2suoqtqasofa4@4ax.com:

> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400
> running WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and
> is left on 24 hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which
> requires two AA batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so
> I'd like to replace the mouse with a more efficient one
> (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would
> prefer to keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer
> life.


Costco brand (Kirkland) AA's cost half of what Duracells cost
and last longer. I know it's hard to believe but it's true.

Rechargeables (a REAL brand, not some no-name crap) are a MUCH
better option and will cost you hundreds of dollars less in the
long run. But it's your money and your choice.

While it will give you a cable, just a different one, which will
not be attached to your computer but to wherever you want,
another option to perhaps consider is to buy a 3V AC adapter for
five dollars and have someone solder the wire into your mouse -
or do it yourself if you know how. Those things use less AC
power in a year than a lightbulb does in a few days (more or
less, no arguments "you know who you are" please) and you would
never have to worry about batteries again.

I know this is just my opinion and you don't care, but I never
saw much point in wireless m/k's unless you have a 40 inch LCD
monitor 10 feet away and like to compute from your bed. Even
then, the AC adapter cable going into the mouse would not impede
you from doing that since it can be plugged in anywhere.

There are also extension cables for both keyboards and mice and
everything else.

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Old 11-23-2006, 02:55 AM
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BestMouse wrote:
>
> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.


All batery powered mice are limited. Use a standard mouse for best
results.

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Old 11-23-2006, 04:23 AM
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thanatoid wrote:
> BestMouse <best@mouse.com> wrote in
>
>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400
>> running WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and
>> is left on 24 hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which
>> requires two AA batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so
>> I'd like to replace the mouse with a more efficient one
>> (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>>
>> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>
>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would
>> prefer to keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer
>> life.

>
> Costco brand (Kirkland) AA's cost half of what Duracells cost
> and last longer. I know it's hard to believe but it's true.
>
> Rechargeables (a REAL brand, not some no-name crap) are a MUCH
> better option and will cost you hundreds of dollars less in the
> long run. But it's your money and your choice.


I have had good experience with Walgrens house brand batteries.
They are quite economical, especially when on sale for half price.
My experience was confirmed some years ago by a Consumer Reports
article. Stock up at sale time.

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Old 11-23-2006, 04:54 AM
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 15:41:11 -0800, "DaveW"
<somewhere@zero.org> wrote:

>The BEST wireless mouse overall and the one that has it's batteries last the
>longest is the Microsoft Wireless 6000 Laser Mouse. The Duracell batteries
>last well over 6 months of all day, every day use.


False

It might be the right choice if the shape is ergonomically
correct for your uses, but Logitech's "Invisible light"
opticals use less power, tend to run for closer to a year.

I don't know "all" of the Logitech models that use this
technology but at least the V200 Notebook, LX5, LX7,
MediaPlay, and probably one or two more though availability
in any particular geographic region may vary.


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Old 11-23-2006, 05:32 AM
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BestMouse wrote:

> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>
> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>
> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.


Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's cradle
about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a mouse is dumb.

BTW, there are now 2900mAh NiMH batteries available (soon to be 3000mAh)
which hold a charge as long as Duracell or Eveready alkalines. I use
NiMH AA cells in all of my remote controls as well. I haven't bought
an AA alkaline battery in years.

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Old 11-23-2006, 05:40 AM
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Adam Russell wrote:

> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I have had.
> It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me cause I always
> had problems with those. I keep a battery recharger behind my desk with 2
> spare batteries topped off. Even using the rechargeable batteries it goes
> about a month of heavy usage before I swap them out. I guess if I used
> regular batteries they would last 6 months.


2700mAh and 2900mAh NiMH batteries last just as long (if not longer)
than standard Duracell or Energizer AA batteries (which are ~2700mAh.)
Depends on the application.

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Old 11-23-2006, 06:55 AM
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:40:09 -0800, UCLAN
<nomail@thanks.org> wrote:

>Adam Russell wrote:
>
>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I have had.
>> It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me cause I always
>> had problems with those. I keep a battery recharger behind my desk with 2
>> spare batteries topped off. Even using the rechargeable batteries it goes
>> about a month of heavy usage before I swap them out. I guess if I used
>> regular batteries they would last 6 months.

>
>2700mAh and 2900mAh NiMH batteries last just as long (if not longer)
>than standard Duracell or Energizer AA batteries (which are ~2700mAh.)
>Depends on the application.


In this application, NiMH cannot power a mouse as long.
NiMH inherantly has a self-discharge propensity that will
result in lower usable power over the course of several
months time. If the mouse were power hungry enough that it
drained the batteries within a month or two, NiMH would be
more competitive.

That doesn't mean it isn't a good idea to use NiMH, as
certainly it'll be more cost effective and kinder to the
environment. The remaining option that somewhat contradicts
what I wrote above is the new breed of NiMH by Sanyo,
eneloop. Their capacity is lower than their other NiMH but
self-discharge rate is much lower. Unfortunately most
places don't carry eneloop yet, of the major retailers they
might be cheapest at hhgreg.com

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Old 11-23-2006, 04:48 PM
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"UCLAN" <nomail@thanks.org> wrote in message
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> BestMouse wrote:
>
>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
>> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
>> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses up
>> batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
>> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>>
>> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>
>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
>> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.

>
> Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
> the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
> AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's cradle
> about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a mouse is dumb.


I had one of those but had a problem that if I wasnt very careful putting it
in the cradle just so, then it wouldnt make good contact and wouldnt charge.



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Old 11-23-2006, 05:23 PM
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Adam Russell <adamrussell@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
> "UCLAN" <nomail@thanks.org> wrote in message
> news:3gb9h.2565$3b4.1907@newsfe15.phx...
>> BestMouse wrote:
>>
>>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running
>>> WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24
>>> hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA
>>> batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the
>>> mouse with a more efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless
>>> keyboard). Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>>
>>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer
>>> to keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.

>>
>> Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
>> the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
>> AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's cradle
>> about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a mouse is
>> dumb.

>
> I had one of those but had a problem that if I wasnt very careful
> putting it in the cradle just so, then it wouldnt make good contact
> and wouldnt charge.


Trivial to check that its charging because the
green led on the top flashes when its charging.



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Old 11-23-2006, 05:47 PM
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"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Adam Russell <adamrussell@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
>> "UCLAN" <nomail@thanks.org> wrote in message
>> news:3gb9h.2565$3b4.1907@newsfe15.phx...
>>> BestMouse wrote:
>>>
>>>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running
>>>> WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24
>>>> hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA
>>>> batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the
>>>> mouse with a more efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless
>>>> keyboard). Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>>>
>>>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer
>>>> to keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.
>>>
>>> Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
>>> the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
>>> AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's cradle
>>> about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a mouse is
>>> dumb.

>>
>> I had one of those but had a problem that if I wasnt very careful
>> putting it in the cradle just so, then it wouldnt make good contact
>> and wouldnt charge.

>
> Trivial to check that its charging because the
> green led on the top flashes when its charging.


Yea but I forget alot when its late. Also was kind of a pain when it
wouldnt. Set it down, wait, set it again, wait, clean the contacts, try
again...



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Old 11-23-2006, 06:55 PM
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Adam Russell wrote:
> "BestMouse" <best@mouse.com> wrote in message
> news:asc9m2hu4lp1i4c3god1g2suoqtqasofa4@4ax.com...
>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running WinXP,
>> with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24 hours a
>> day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA batteries, uses
>> up batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more
>> efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).
>>
>> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>
>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
>> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.

>
> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I
> have had. It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me
> cause I always had problems with those.
>

It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle. I wonder
when they will fix this problem.


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Old 11-23-2006, 07:12 PM
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Adam Russell wrote:

>>Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
>>the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
>>AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's cradle
>>about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a mouse is dumb.

>
> I had one of those but had a problem that if I wasnt very careful putting it
> in the cradle just so, then it wouldnt make good contact and wouldnt charge.


Yeah, it's tough. If the green light comes on, then it's in right and
it's charging. If the green light *doesn't* come on, it's not. I started
having difficulty, but cleaning the contacts on the cradle and on the
mouse ended the problem.

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Old 11-23-2006, 07:26 PM
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kony wrote:

>>2700mAh and 2900mAh NiMH batteries last just as long (if not longer)
>>than standard Duracell or Energizer AA batteries (which are ~2700mAh.)
>>Depends on the application.

>
> In this application, NiMH cannot power a mouse as long.
> NiMH inherantly has a self-discharge propensity that will
> result in lower usable power over the course of several
> months time. If the mouse were power hungry enough that it
> drained the batteries within a month or two, NiMH would be
> more competitive.


Some cordless mice ARE power hungry, being in the on/active state
if they are not in the charger. *In these applications*, the 2700-
3000mAh NiMH rechargeables hold their charge just as long as the
alkalines do. Using the cradle, well...NiMH is a "no brainer."

> The remaining option that somewhat contradicts
> what I wrote above is the new breed of NiMH by Sanyo,
> eneloop. Their capacity is lower than their other NiMH but
> self-discharge rate is much lower. Unfortunately most
> places don't carry eneloop yet, of the major retailers they
> might be cheapest at hhgreg.com


http://www.hybriousa.com/

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Old 11-23-2006, 07:35 PM
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//// Owen \\\\ wrote:

>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I
>> have had. It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me
>> cause I always had problems with those.
>>

> It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle. I
> wonder when they will fix this problem.


What problem? Once it starts giving me trouble, I simply clean the
charging contacts of the cradle and the mouse (about once a year.)
End of trouble. The batteries acted up once. A charge cycle in my
Maha ended *that* quickly.

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Old 11-23-2006, 08:20 PM
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:26:34 -0800, UCLAN
<nomail@thanks.org> wrote:

>kony wrote:
>
>>>2700mAh and 2900mAh NiMH batteries last just as long (if not longer)
>>>than standard Duracell or Energizer AA batteries (which are ~2700mAh.)
>>>Depends on the application.

>>
>> In this application, NiMH cannot power a mouse as long.
>> NiMH inherantly has a self-discharge propensity that will
>> result in lower usable power over the course of several
>> months time. If the mouse were power hungry enough that it
>> drained the batteries within a month or two, NiMH would be
>> more competitive.

>
>Some cordless mice ARE power hungry, being in the on/active state
>if they are not in the charger. *In these applications*, the 2700-
>3000mAh NiMH rechargeables hold their charge just as long as the
>alkalines do. Using the cradle, well...NiMH is a "no brainer."



It's doubtful those cells actually achieve upwards of
3000mAH. Even the majors are only now achieving 2700mAH,
and only then when batteries are new which can dismiss as
the point of rechargeables IS to keep using them.

Given the context of wanting long runtime, why would anyone
choose a power hungry mouse that doesn't have it's own
charger? I suggest that if it has it's own charger, it
doesn't matter much which batteries one uses, even the old
1100mAH NiCads should last a day or two till it's put back
into that charging cradle. Perhaps traveling with a laptop
is anther story, but there are laptop mice meant for this
use.



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Old 11-24-2006, 03:39 AM
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//// Owen \\\\ <mo-jo@shaw.ca> wrote
> Adam Russell wrote
>> BestMouse <best@mouse.com> wrote


>>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running
>>> WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24
>>> hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA
>>> batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the mouse with a more efficient
>>> one (but keep my current Dell wireless keyboard).


>>> Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?


>>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to keep using regular
>>> Duracell's, but with longer life.


>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I have had. It doesnt have the
>> recharger cradle, but thats fine with me cause I always had problems with those.


> It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle.


No they dont. Mine are fine. Hordes dont have any problem with them.

> I wonder when they will fix this problem.


Nothing to fix.



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Old 11-24-2006, 03:40 AM
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UCLAN <nomail@thanks.org> wrote
> //// Owen \\\\ wrote


>>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I have had. It doesnt have the
>>> recharger cradle, but thats fine with me cause I always had problems with those.


>> It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle. I wonder when they will fix
>> this problem.


> What problem? Once it starts giving me trouble, I simply clean the
> charging contacts of the cradle and the mouse (about once a year.)
> End of trouble. The batteries acted up once. A charge cycle in my
> Maha ended *that* quickly.


Yeah, usually with a fast blinking red led on top instead of the
normal slow blinking green that should show when its charging.

Its always been bad batterys when rarely seen here.



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Old 11-24-2006, 03:42 AM
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Adam Russell <adamrussell@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4sm79sF1073vcU1@mid.individual.net...
>> Adam Russell <adamrussell@sbcglobal.net.invalid> wrote:
>>> "UCLAN" <nomail@thanks.org> wrote in message
>>> news:3gb9h.2565$3b4.1907@newsfe15.phx...
>>>> BestMouse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My system is a year-and-a-half-old Dell Dimension 8400 running
>>>>> WinXP, with a Dell wireless keyboard and mouse, and is left on 24
>>>>> hours a day. Unfortunately the mouse, which requires two AA
>>>>> batteries, uses up batteries very fast, so I'd like to replace the
>>>>> mouse with a more efficient one (but keep my current Dell wireless
>>>>> keyboard). Which wireless mouse has the longest battery life?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer
>>>>> to keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.
>>>>
>>>> Why? Logitech's cordless mice with NiMH AA and charging cradles are
>>>> the way to go. I've been using my MX700 with the same included NiMH
>>>> AA cells for over three years. I simply put the mouse in it's
>>>> cradle about every other night. Buying alkaline AA cells for a
>>>> mouse is dumb.
>>>
>>> I had one of those but had a problem that if I wasnt very careful
>>> putting it in the cradle just so, then it wouldnt make good contact
>>> and wouldnt charge.


>> Trivial to check that its charging because the
>> green led on the top flashes when its charging.


> Yea but I forget alot when its late. Also was kind of a pain when it
> wouldnt. Set it down, wait, set it again, wait, clean the contacts, try again...


I've never had to clean the contacts on the rare occassion when it hasnt
started charging fine, just seat the mouse in the recharger properly.



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Old 11-24-2006, 05:38 AM
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kony wrote:

> It's doubtful those cells actually achieve upwards of
> 3000mAH. Even the majors are only now achieving 2700mAH,


http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ac...-batteries.htm

You will probably say they are not a major. So be it. And who mentioned
"upwards of 3000mAh" ?? Standard Energizer alkaline AA batteries are
only 2850 mAh.

http://data.energizer.com/SearchResult.aspx

> and only then when batteries are new which can dismiss as
> the point of rechargeables IS to keep using them.


The contrary is true. NiMH bateries require several charge/discharge
cycles to achieve maximum capacity. And chargers from Maha and
LaCrosse can give old batteries full capacity.

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Old 11-24-2006, 05:49 AM
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Rod Speed wrote:

>>>It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle. I wonder when they will fix
>>>this problem.

>
>>What problem? Once it starts giving me trouble, I simply clean the
>>charging contacts of the cradle and the mouse (about once a year.)
>>End of trouble. The batteries acted up once. A charge cycle in my
>>Maha ended *that* quickly.

>
> Yeah, usually with a fast blinking red led on top instead of the
> normal slow blinking green that should show when its charging.
>
> Its always been bad batterys when rarely seen here.


A simple discharge and charge to full capacity, and back in the mouse
they went. No problems since.

[The Maha MH-C401FS has steady red LEDs when charging, and steady green
LEDs when complete. My Maha MH-C808M has an LCD readout with blinking
battery symbols or "DONE".)

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Old 11-24-2006, 11:11 PM
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 22:38:27 -0800, UCLAN
<nomail@thanks.org> wrote:

>kony wrote:
>
>> It's doubtful those cells actually achieve upwards of
>> 3000mAH. Even the majors are only now achieving 2700mAH,

>
>http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ac...-batteries.htm
>
>You will probably say they are not a major. So be it. And who mentioned
>"upwards of 3000mAh" ??


You did.

They aren't a major. Their actual capacity is no better
than Sanyo ~ 2600 (between 2500-2700), plus they're
overpriced. IOW, no reason at all to use them.



>Standard Energizer alkaline AA batteries are
>only 2850 mAh.


You are still ignoring that this thread is within the
context of a "wireless mouse with longest battery life", and
in that context, standard Energizer alkalines will easily
last 200% as long, probably even longer than those
Accupowers.

Remember that the mouse you own is a particularly poor one
when it comes to battery life, even though overall it is a
great mouse for it's performance and having the recharge
cradle.

>
>http://data.energizer.com/SearchResult.aspx
>
>> and only then when batteries are new which can dismiss as
>> the point of rechargeables IS to keep using them.

>
>The contrary is true. NiMH bateries require several charge/discharge
>cycles to achieve maximum capacity. And chargers from Maha and
>LaCrosse can give old batteries full capacity.


That's a great way to senselessly waste time and battery
life. Charge the battery, use it, recharge it. Using a
charger to drain them first just wears them more. Only when
brand new and having a need for first-use longest life
possible would it matter much, which is not typically the
case with mice.

Now steering back to the original thread topic. OP wants a
mouse with longest battery life. Traditional NiMH will not
give that result. An optimally low-power mouse combined
with either alkaline, lithium, or the newest breed of
slow-self-discharge NiMH (which are lower capacity and so
significantly shorter runtime than alkaline or lithium but
cheaper over several years) is the correct solution. Buying
highest rated mAH NiMH is a drastic reduction in runtime for
the OP's expressed purpose.


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Old 11-24-2006, 11:13 PM
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On Thu, 23 Nov 2006 12:35:51 -0800, UCLAN
<nomail@thanks.org> wrote:

>//// Owen \\\\ wrote:
>
>>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other mice I
>>> have had. It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but thats fine with me
>>> cause I always had problems with those.
>>>

>> It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle. I
>> wonder when they will fix this problem.

>
>What problem? Once it starts giving me trouble, I simply clean the
>charging contacts of the cradle and the mouse (about once a year.)
>End of trouble. The batteries acted up once. A charge cycle in my
>Maha ended *that* quickly.



The problem is that the vast majority of your consumer
electronics work without these kinds of issues, else every
single thing you touch would have extra burdens. You're
making an exception for one product and it would not be
reasonable to continually add additional "trivial" burdens
(as Rod put it) onto every single thing you own because it
all adds up.


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Old 11-25-2006, 01:00 AM
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kony <spam@spam.com> wrote
> UCLAN <nomail@thanks.org> wrote
>> //// Owen \\\\ wrote


>>>> I have a logitech LX7 now. It lasts way longer than other
>>>> mice I have had. It doesnt have the recharger cradle, but
>>>> thats fine with me cause I always had problems with those.


>>> It seems everbody has problems with Logitech's recharger/cradle.
>>> I wonder when they will fix this problem.


>> What problem? Once it starts giving me trouble, I simply clean the
>> charging contacts of the cradle and the mouse (about once a year.)
>> End of trouble. The batteries acted up once. A charge cycle in my
>> Maha ended *that* quickly.


> The problem is that the vast majority of your consumer
> electronics work without these kinds of issues,


What matters is JUST those that need some way to conveniently
recharge them, most obviously with cordless and cell phones.

> else every single thing you touch would have extra burdens.


Nope, only the relatively power hungry devices that
arent practical to have to change the batterys.

> You're making an exception for one product


Nope, for a product that uses power significantly,
just like cordless and cellphones do.

> and it would not be reasonable to continually add additional
> "trivial" burdens (as Rod put it) onto every single thing you own


You only need that sort of convenience with the higher power use devices.

> because it all adds up.


Nope, most of them like remotes never need that easy recharge convenience,
because they dont use enough power for a battery change to be a nuisance.



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Old 11-25-2006, 06:32 AM
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kony <spam@spam.com> wrote in news:3o1fm2d34dcs5nuvcvovhdscup57mvd9no@
4ax.com:

> Now steering back to the original thread topic. OP wants a
> mouse with longest battery life. Traditional NiMH will not
> give that result. An optimally low-power mouse combined
> with either alkaline, lithium, or the newest breed of
> slow-self-discharge NiMH (which are lower capacity and so
> significantly shorter runtime than alkaline or lithium but
> cheaper over several years) is the correct solution. Buying
> highest rated mAH NiMH is a drastic reduction in runtime for
> the OP's expressed purpose.


I really think the OP just wants to not have to keep changing batteries
and for that the solution is rechargeables. Yes, the OP said:

> I know that rechargeable batteries are an option, but would prefer to
> keep using regular Duracell's, but with longer life.


I suspect that he/she simply means that getting some NiMH batteries and a
battery charger isn't desirable because it still involves the
inconvenience of the batteries running down and needing to be changed and
charged. A mouse with a charging stand solves that problem. The NiMH
batteries will far outlast the alkalines and the OP will do a lot less
buying batteries and throwing them away.

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Old 11-25-2006, 06:56 AM
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kony wrote:

>>>It's doubtful those cells actually achieve upwards of
>>>3000mAH. Even the majors are only now achieving 2700mAH,

>>
>>http://www.thomasdistributing.com/ac...-batteries.htm
>>
>>You will probably say they are not a major. So be it. And who mentioned
>>"upwards of 3000mAh" ??

>
> You did.


Liar. I said "soon to be 3000mAh."

Message-ID: <3gb9h.2565$3b4.1907@newsfe15.phx>

Please quote back where I said "upwards of 3000mAh" or admit you
are a liar.

> They aren't a major. Their actual capacity is no better
> than Sanyo ~ 2600 (between 2500-2700), plus they're
> overpriced. IOW, no reason at all to use them.


You're full of hot air, again. I've got four of them, and they all
test at over 2900 mAh. They've been making rechargeable batteries
for a long time. And they cost about the same as the 2500mAh or 2700mAh
Sanyo batteries. You're just making stuff up now.

>>Standard Energizer alkaline AA batteries are
>>only 2850 mAh.

>
> You are still ignoring that this thread is within the
> context of a "wireless mouse with longest battery life", and
> in that context, standard Energizer alkalines will easily
> last 200% as long, probably even longer than those
> Accupowers.


Maybe yes, maybe no, depending on how much the mouse is used.

>>The contrary is true. NiMH bateries require several charge/discharge
>>cycles to achieve maximum capacity. And chargers from Maha and
>>LaCrosse can give old batteries full capacity.

>
> That's a great way to senselessly waste time and battery
> life. Charge the battery, use it, recharge it. Using a
> charger to drain them first just wears them more. Only when
> brand new and having a need for first-use longest life
> possible would it matter much, which is not typically the
> case with mice.


Which has nothing to do with your comment that the mAh rating
is only valid when the NiMH battery is new. But then again, you
made so many erroneous statements in this thread that I can
understand your attempts to steer away from them.

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