RayLopez99 wrote:
> CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
> email saying "I consent".
>
> How is that done? Don't the AV vendors have a patch for them yet?
You need to define terms. Seti and folding can be considered bots too.
If they are saying malicious bots (and most people think "malicious"
when hearing "bot" or "virus" or "worm" where it might not necessarily
follow.
They're all just "programs" that a user runs on his or her machine.
(and yes, I'm already aware of the "Why a good virus is still a bad
idea" article)
RayLopez99 wrote:
> CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
> email saying "I consent".
Citation please?
> How is that done? Don't the AV vendors have a patch for them yet?
You need to define terms. Seti and Folding can be considered bots too.
If they are not saying malicious bots (and most people think "malicious"
when hearing "bot" or "virus" or "worm" where it might not necessarily
follow), then your agreement is all that is needed.
They're all just "programs" or "applications" that a user runs on his or
her machine.
(and yes, I'm already aware of the "Why a good virus is still a bad
idea" article)
> CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
> email saying "I consent".
>
> How is that done? Don't the AV vendors have a patch for them yet?
LOL. I printed this one.. I couldn't resist. I'm going to hang this in
the computer room. Funny! **** man. You have made my day.
--
Hackers are generally only very weakly motivated by conventional rewards
such as social approval or money. They tend to be attracted by
challenges and excited by interesting toys, and to judge the interest of
work or other activities in terms of the challenges offered and the toys
they get to play with.
On Dec 10, 3:55*pm, FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> RayLopez99 wrote:
>
> *> CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
> *> email saying "I consent".
>
> Citation please?
CNN. This was a few days ago. Int'l edition. From what I surmised
(just from what I know about PCs) the hackers must have some way of
trying to penetrate a PC that might, under generic firewall rules,
cause your software firewall to raise a red flag popup window like
"program xyz is attempting to access your PC--allow?" and the user
then clicks Yes if the user is sympathetic to the Anonymous group,
allowing their machine to become a bot. The hackers would know which
machine is 'sympathetic' from the email header, where they can read
your IP address. From what I surmised. But I was expecting somebody
here to know more.
On Dec 11, 4:39*am, Dustin <bughunter.dus...@gmail.com> wrote:
> RayLopez99 <raylope...@gmail.com> wrote in news:b7e29c00-f268-4a77-9e32-
> 11bdb54d8...@w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com:
>
> > CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
> > email saying "I consent".
>
> > How is that done? *Don't the AV vendors have a patch for them yet?
>
> LOL. I printed this one.. I couldn't resist. I'm going to hang this in
> the computer room. Funny! **** man. You have made my day.
>
You have a weird sense of humor Dustin. I guess shiny metal objects
also hold your attention. Glad to have made your day.
| On Dec 10, 3:55 pm, FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>> > CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
>> > email saying "I consent".
>> Citation please?
| CNN. This was a few days ago. Int'l edition. From what I surmised
| (just from what I know about PCs) the hackers must have some way of
| trying to penetrate a PC that might, under generic firewall rules,
| cause your software firewall to raise a red flag popup window like
| "program xyz is attempting to access your PC--allow?" and the user
| then clicks Yes if the user is sympathetic to the Anonymous group,
| allowing their machine to become a bot. The hackers would know which
| machine is 'sympathetic' from the email header, where they can read
| your IP address. From what I surmised. But I was expecting somebody
| here to know more.
OK, please post the CNN URL.
You based your question on a CNN claim but fail to exactly quote said claim nor point to a
URL of the claim's text.
We can't respond to what you wrote because of misquoting, snipping, grape-vine effect and
other modifications to what CNN may have originaly claimed.
RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Dec 10, 3:55 pm, FromTheRafters<erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 wrote:
>>
>> > CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
>> > email saying "I consent".
>>
>> Citation please?
>
> CNN. This was a few days ago. Int'l edition. From what I surmised
> (just from what I know about PCs) the hackers must have some way of
> trying to penetrate a PC that might, under generic firewall rules,
> cause your software firewall to raise a red flag popup window like
> "program xyz is attempting to access your PC--allow?" and the user
> then clicks Yes if the user is sympathetic to the Anonymous group,
> allowing their machine to become a bot. The hackers would know which
> machine is 'sympathetic' from the email header, where they can read
> your IP address. From what I surmised. But I was expecting somebody
> here to know more.
I suspect that you are misinterpreting what they are saying, but I
cannot know without actually reading what you read at their site.
Keep in mind that a "Bot" in this sense is an application, not an
exploit. While a malicious bot can, through updating, become a malicious
worm and spread using exploits, some bots (or botnets) are beneficial in
nature.
Snip:
Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
"You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
| Snip:
| Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
| can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
| uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
| Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
| of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
| heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
| "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
| Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
| whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
| computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
| collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
| Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
Great. Thanx Ozzy.
Now RL has to chime in since you did his work (we'll probably not see any posts from him
till Sunday) and relook at his question.
Duh_OZ wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
> ==============
> I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the link:
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...iref=allsearch
>
> Snip:
> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
> can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
> uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
>
> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
> of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
> heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>
> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
> Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
> whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
> computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
> collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
> Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
As I thought. You consent to running the application.
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "Duh_OZ"<ozzy.kopec@gmail.com>
>
> | On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> | wrote:
>
>>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
> | ==============
> | I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the link:
>
> | http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...iref=allsearch
>
> | Snip:
> | Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
> | can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
> | uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
>
> | Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
> | of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
> | heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>
> | "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
> | Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
> | whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
> | computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
> | collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
> | Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
>
> Great. Thanx Ozzy.
>
> Now RL has to chime in since you did his work (we'll probably not see any posts from him
> till Sunday) and relook at his question.
>
And maybe he'll wxplain to us how an AV "Patch" would help. :o)
>> Snip:
>> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
>> can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
>> uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
>> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
>> of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
>> heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
>> Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
>> whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
>> computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
>> collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
>> Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
| As I thought. You consent to running the application.
Yes, which makes the installation legal. However the action to be performed is quasi
legal but definitely an ISP AUP violation.
David H. Lipman wrote:
> From: "FromTheRafters"<erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
>
> | Duh_OZ wrote:
>>> On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
>>> ==============
>>> I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the link:
>
>>> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...iref=allsearch
>
>>> Snip:
>>> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation Payback"
>>> can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many websites it
>>> uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your computer.
>
>>> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the sites
>>> of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on the
>>> heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>
>>> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
>>> Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer, do
>>> whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
>>> computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
>>> collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks," Gregg
>>> Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
>
> | As I thought. You consent to running the application.
>
> Yes, which makes the installation legal. However the action to be performed is quasi
> legal but definitely an ISP AUP violation.
>
RayLopez99 seemed to be under the impression that an exploit was
involved (one that AV could "patch") and that the application was
surreptitiously installed.
Yes, I do believe that ISP's would frown upon their clients taking part
in such cybercrime attacks.
> RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> wrote in news:b7e29c00-f268-4a77-9e32-
> 11bdb54d8eb7@w29g2000vba.googlegroups.com:
>
>> CNN claims you can have your PC turn into a bot by sending them an
>> email saying "I consent".
>>
>> How is that done? Don't the AV vendors have a patch for them yet?
>
> LOL. I printed this one.. I couldn't resist. I'm going to hang this in
> the computer room. Funny! **** man. You have made my day.
Yeah, I remember when Ray was trolling the fitness and weights
newsgroups and BBs trying to get medical advice on why his one of his
nuts hurt. He refused to admit to what was an obvious fact to all of
us that was when you whack-off 6-10x/day, and are RHanded, chances are
your going to have a sore right testicle. lol
Duh_OZ <ozzy.kopec@gmail.com> wrote in
news:027c24a8-b79e-4b50-b302-315c2658b162@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
> On Dec 11, 7:52*am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
>
>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
> =============I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the
> link:
>
> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...index.html?ire
> f=allsearch
>
> Snip:
> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation
> Payback" can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many
> websites it uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your
> computer.
>
> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the
> sites of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on
> the heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>
> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
> Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer,
> do whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
> computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
> collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks,"
> Gregg Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told
> CNN.
No hacking going on here then. The users are willingly joining their
computers upto a botnet for DDoS purposes. A good demonstration of
civil disobedience. Power to the people!
--
Hackers are generally only very weakly motivated by conventional
rewards such as social approval or money. They tend to be attracted by
challenges and excited by interesting toys, and to judge the interest
of work or other activities in terms of the challenges offered and the
toys they get to play with.
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in
news:ie0a6301bnr@news6.newsguy.com:
> From: "FromTheRafters" <erratic@nomail.afraid.org>
>
>| Duh_OZ wrote:
>>> On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
>>> ==============
>>> I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the link:
>
>>> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...s/index.html?i
>>> ref=allsearch
>
>>> Snip:
>>> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation
>>> Payback" can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many
>>> websites it uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your
>>> computer.
>
>>> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the
>>> sites of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came
>>> on the heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>
>>> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is
>>> send Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my
>>> computer, do whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous
>>> link to your computer, connect it with others who've consented,
>>> and use the collective force (among the machines) to launch these
>>> attacks," Gregg Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in
>>> Boston told CNN.
>
>| As I thought. You consent to running the application.
>
> Yes, which makes the installation legal. However the action to be
> performed is quasi legal but definitely an ISP AUP violation.
>
It depends. LOIC for example doesn't exploit vulnerabilities in the
tcp/ip stack; it sends normal packet data to the machine, randomly and
consistently. From the victims point of view, it's just overloaded with
two many requests.
--
Hackers are generally only very weakly motivated by conventional
rewards such as social approval or money. They tend to be attracted by
challenges and excited by interesting toys, and to judge the interest
of work or other activities in terms of the challenges offered and the
toys they get to play with.
>> Snip:
>> Helping the hacking forum known as "Anonymous" and "Operation
>> Payback" can be as simple as sending an e-mail to one of the many
>> websites it uses -- and letting the hackers take control of your
>> computer.
>> Anonymous claimed responsibility for disabling or disrupting the
>> sites of MasterCard, Visa and PayPal this week. The attacks came on
>> the heels of WikiLeaks leader Julian Assange's arrest.
>> "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
>> Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer,
>> do whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
>> computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
>> collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks,"
>> Gregg Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told
>> CNN.
| No hacking going on here then. The users are willingly joining their
| computers upto a botnet for DDoS purposes. A good demonstration of
| civil disobedience. Power to the people!
On Dec 11, 7:41*pm, FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> RayLopez99 seemed to be under the impression that an exploit was
> involved (one that AV could "patch") and that the application was
> surreptitiously installed.
>
> Yes, I do believe that ISP's would frown upon their clients taking part
> in such cybercrime attacks.
Here is the quote in question:
| "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
| Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer,
do
| whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
| computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
| collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks,"
Gregg
| Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
Note what Housh is saying (reading comprehension is not a strong point
of most people, including most in this thread):
(1) you DO NOT HAVE TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER
(2) (implied) you DO NOT have to "do anything" at the user end. The
hackers will take over your machine.
Now square that circle, jerks.
Oh yes, I would imagine, as FromTheRafters says, that ISPs would not
look kindly upon such activities, so yes, I would expect the major AV
companies to issue a patch for this activity. And from what I've read
since this article came out, they have.
RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> wrote in
news:23439a39-282f-43f7-babf-1600c3bb75ca@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:
> Note what Housh is saying (reading comprehension is not a strong
> point of most people, including most in this thread):
You shouldn't be quick with a reading comprehension jab... :)
> (1) you DO NOT HAVE TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER
You do have to install the software offered from the link; It's user
opt-in.
> (2) (implied) you DO NOT have to "do anything" at the user end. The
> hackers will take over your machine.
Uhh, no. That's not what it says.
> Oh yes, I would imagine, as FromTheRafters says, that ISPs would not
> look kindly upon such activities, so yes, I would expect the major
> AV companies to issue a patch for this activity. And from what I've
> read since this article came out, they have.
The software itself isn't malicious and can't do anything without you
agreeing to install it. AV wouldn't be right in issuing a patch;
unless it's of the PuP variety (Potentially Unwanted Program).
--
Hackers are generally only very weakly motivated by conventional
rewards such as social approval or money. They tend to be attracted by
challenges and excited by interesting toys, and to judge the interest
of work or other activities in terms of the challenges offered and the
toys they get to play with.
RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, FromTheRafters<erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> RayLopez99 seemed to be under the impression that an exploit was
>> involved (one that AV could "patch") and that the application was
>> surreptitiously installed.
>>
>> Yes, I do believe that ISP's would frown upon their clients taking part
>> in such cybercrime attacks.
>
> Here is the quote in question:
>
> | "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
> | Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer,
> do
> | whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
> | computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
> | collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks,"
> Gregg
> | Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
>
> Note what Housh is saying (reading comprehension is not a strong point
> of most people, including most in this thread):
*There's* the Ray we all know and love. :o)
> (1) you DO NOT HAVE TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER
I agree that this quote is misleading.
One would assume in that case that the user 'opting in' would be sending
that e-mail from someone else's computer, yet still supplying the means
for the hacktivist to identify which computer is to join the botnet (the
user's own, and *not* the someone else's).
I believe that they mean that the user doesn't have to be there during
the attacks (but of course the opted in computer must be running).
> (2) (implied) you DO NOT have to "do anything" at the user end. The
> hackers will take over your machine.
I still believe that the administrator must allow installation of the
program, otherwise there would be mention of just how privilege
escalation was obtained (as well as your inferred remote-exploit).
> Now square that circle, jerks.
My opinion, bad wording on their part (perhaps purposeful FUD) - they
are, after all, journalists.
> Oh yes, I would imagine, as FromTheRafters says, that ISPs would not
> look kindly upon such activities, so yes, I would expect the major AV
> companies to issue a patch for this activity. And from what I've read
> since this article came out, they have.
Can you post references for that as well?
AV's don't "patch" vulnerabilities (except when their own software is
found to be flawed/vulnerable). Patches are issued to address
vulnerabilities in software - AVs issue 'definitions' not 'patches'.
To the best of my knowledge, these hacktivists offer an automated tool
to help you participate in bombarding a common target with distributed
computing (bots). They give you a 'program' to 'install' which,
thereafter, is completely transparent to the user.
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
>From: "Dustin" <bughunter.dustin@gmail.com>
>
>| Duh_OZ <ozzy.kopec@gmail.com> wrote in
>| news:027c24a8-b79e-4b50-b302-315c2658b162@p38g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:
>
>>> On Dec 11, 7:52 am, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
>>> wrote:
>
>>>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
>>> =============I did a search on "I consent" and came up with the
>>> link:
>
>>> http://edition.cnn.com/2010/US/12/09...index.html?ire
>>> f=allsearch
RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Dec 11, 3:52 pm, "David H. Lipman"<DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
> .
>>
>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
>>
> Don't have it. CNN stories are always hard to find anyway--their
> search tool sucks.
>
> But this is not a peer reviewed science site. Do you have any ideas
> how evil hackers can take over your machine if you send them an
> email? That is the relevant query. I guess your lack of a response
> on that issue speaks for itself. Get the point?
Okay, aside from the possibility that you have been intentionally misled
by the wording in that article, the only thing an e-mail would give a
hacker is information (some of which *could* eventually lead to your IP
address)about your system. At that point, they would have to amass
exploit tools that attack some software they now know to be on your
system or assume to be on your system while also assuming you still have
that IP address.
If they get information from your ISP about your account, they may be
able to keep abreast of any IP address changes.
This article mentions no security breaches, only that the 'tools' are
distributed.
| RayLopez99 <raylopez88@gmail.com> wrote in
| news:23439a39-282f-43f7-babf-1600c3bb75ca@j25g2000vbs.googlegroups.com:
>> Note what Housh is saying (reading comprehension is not a strong
>> point of most people, including most in this thread):
| You shouldn't be quick with a reading comprehension jab... :)
>> (1) you DO NOT HAVE TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER
| You do have to install the software offered from the link; It's user
| opt-in.
>> (2) (implied) you DO NOT have to "do anything" at the user end. The
>> hackers will take over your machine.
| Uhh, no. That's not what it says.
>> Oh yes, I would imagine, as FromTheRafters says, that ISPs would not
>> look kindly upon such activities, so yes, I would expect the major
>> AV companies to issue a patch for this activity. And from what I've
>> read since this article came out, they have.
| The software itself isn't malicious and can't do anything without you
| agreeing to install it. AV wouldn't be right in issuing a patch;
| unless it's of the PuP variety (Potentially Unwanted Program).
| On Dec 11, 7:41 pm, FromTheRafters <erra...@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> RayLopez99 seemed to be under the impression that an exploit was
>> involved (one that AV could "patch") and that the application was
>> surreptitiously installed.
>> Yes, I do believe that ISP's would frown upon their clients taking part
>> in such cybercrime attacks.
| Here is the quote in question:
|| "You don't have to be at your computer. All you've got to do is send
|| Anonymous an e-mail that says, 'I consent to you using my computer,
| do
|| whatever you like,' " and the people with Anonymous link to your
|| computer, connect it with others who've consented, and use the
|| collective force (among the machines) to launch these attacks,"
| Gregg
|| Housh, a 34-year-old internet activist based in Boston told CNN.
| Note what Housh is saying (reading comprehension is not a strong point
| of most people, including most in this thread):
| (1) you DO NOT HAVE TO BE AT YOUR COMPUTER
| (2) (implied) you DO NOT have to "do anything" at the user end. The
| hackers will take over your machine.
| Now square that circle, jerks.
| Oh yes, I would imagine, as FromTheRafters says, that ISPs would not
| look kindly upon such activities, so yes, I would expect the major AV
| companies to issue a patch for this activity. And from what I've read
| since this article came out, they have.
See how you wasted time and energy beacuse your original post lacked the required
information and facts.
Your gratioutous comments such as "reading comprehension is not a strong point
of most people, including most in this thread" and "Now square that circle, jerks." Do
NOT help!
| On Dec 11, 3:52 pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
| wrote:
| .
>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
| Don't have it. CNN stories are always hard to find anyway--their
| search tool sucks.
| But this is not a peer reviewed science site. Do you have any ideas
| how evil hackers can take over your machine if you send them an
| email? That is the relevant query. I guess your lack of a response
| on that issue speaks for itself. Get the point?
If you don't have a URL don't post "CNN claims". Just post the question. However Ozzy
did YOU work for you.
This doesn't have to be a "peer reviewed science site" to have an authortative URL posted
to back a claim. Actually, it is REQUIRED to substantiate a claim.
Now that we know what Ozzy posted and what you inferred are the same, we can draw some
conclusions.
The major conclusion is there is no exploit/vulerability vector. Only an email request
that presumably leads to a a subsequent reply indicating how to "join" the hacktivist
action.
My lack of a response was because you lacked facts to to substantiate a claim to provide
an answer to a qestion based upon said unsubstantiated claim.
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 05:21:43 -0800 (PST), RayLopez99 wrote:
> On Dec 11, 3:52*pm, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nosp...@Verizon.Net>
> wrote:
> .
>>
>> OK, please post the CNN URL.
>>
> Don't have it. CNN stories are always hard to find anyway--their
> search tool sucks.
>
> But this is not a peer reviewed science site. Do you have any ideas
> how evil hackers can take over your machine if you send them an
> email? That is the relevant query. I guess your lack of a response
> on that issue speaks for itself. Get the point?
>
> RL
Anonymous hackers - how dey do dat? 
Linear Mode
