Canada, and Germany are good...
Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
the best listed.
That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
screen, and can't see it well...
I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
standpoint...
Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
better places to run a VPN from...
THANKS
P.S. Something I just ran across...
<http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
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> Canada, and Germany are good...
> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>
> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>
> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
> the best listed.
>
> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
> screen, and can't see it well...
>
> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>
> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
> the USA...
>
> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>
> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>
> This map is better, and more up to date...
>
> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>
> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
> standpoint...
>
> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>
> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
> better places to run a VPN from...
>
> THANKS
>
> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>
> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
Entangled cats, DasFox? Six ions entangled in a cat state; predictions
of spin?
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:10:10 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Canada, and Germany are good...
>> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
>> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>>
>> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>>
>> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
>> the best listed.
>>
>> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
>> screen, and can't see it well...
>>
>> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>>
>> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
>> the USA...
>>
>> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
>> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>
>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>>
>> This map is better, and more up to date...
>>
>> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
>> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>
>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>> standpoint...
>>
>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>>
>> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
>> better places to run a VPN from...
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>>
>> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
>
> Entangled cats, DasFox? Six ions entangled in a cat state; predictions
> of spin?
Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:38:34 -0500, nix wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:10:10 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>> Canada, and Germany are good...
>>> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
>>> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>>>
>>> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>>>
>>> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
>>> the best listed.
>>>
>>> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
>>> screen, and can't see it well...
>>>
>>> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>>>
>>> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
>>> the USA...
>>>
>>> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
>>> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>>
>>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>>>
>>> This map is better, and more up to date...
>>>
>>> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
>>> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>>
>>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>>> standpoint...
>>>
>>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>>>
>>> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
>>> better places to run a VPN from...
>>>
>>> THANKS
>>>
>>> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>>>
>>> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
>>
>> Entangled cats, DasFox? Six ions entangled in a cat state; predictions
>> of spin?
>
> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
Cats or Katz, DasFox?
Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
someone¢s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¢t recognize the
concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
thousand miles away.
The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
communicative state.
Are you The Natural, Redford?
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:48:29 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:38:34 -0500, nix wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:10:10 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>
>>>> Canada, and Germany are good...
>>>> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
>>>> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>>>>
>>>> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>>>>
>>>> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
>>>> the best listed.
>>>>
>>>> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
>>>> screen, and can't see it well...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>>>>
>>>> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
>>>> the USA...
>>>>
>>>> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
>>>> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>>>
>>>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>>>>
>>>> This map is better, and more up to date...
>>>>
>>>> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
>>>> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>>>
>>>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>>>> standpoint...
>>>>
>>>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>>>>
>>>> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
>>>> better places to run a VPN from...
>>>>
>>>> THANKS
>>>>
>>>> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>>>>
>>>> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
>>>
>>> Entangled cats, DasFox? Six ions entangled in a cat state; predictions
>>> of spin?
>>
>> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
>
> Cats or Katz, DasFox?
>
> Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
> someone¢s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
> base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
> enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
> corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¢t recognize the
> concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
> Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
> thousand miles away.
>
> The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
> theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
> party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
> means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
> profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
> or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
> up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
> with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
> information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
> in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
> cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
> communicative state.
>
> Are you The Natural, Redford?
TECH talk to me...
No more NOT TECH Talk..
THANKS
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Pro poster to Wilders Security...home base...On usenet to help noobs
Not me...
>>> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
>>
>> Cats or Katz, DasFox?
>>
>> Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
>> someone¢s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
>> base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
>> enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
>> corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¢t recognize the
>> concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
>> Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
>> thousand miles away.
>>
>> The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
>> theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
>> party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
>> means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
>> profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
>> or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
>> up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
>> with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
>> information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
>> in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
>> cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
>> communicative state.
>>
>> Are you The Natural, Redford?
>
> TECH talk to me...
>
> No more NOT TECH Talk..
>
> THANKS
Ok. I¢m going to let the Rolling Stones take it from here:
Hear me prowlin¢
I¢m gonna take you down
Hear me growlin¢
Yeah, I¢ve got flatted feet now, now, now, now
Hear me howlin¢
And all, all around your street now
Hear me knockin¢
And all, all around your town
Maybe this was your favorite song. Because this is exactly what the
DasFox/ODNI means to me. I have to say, it¢s a good song. But not the
best.
So what were your closing words to the team?
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:56:58 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>>>> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
>>>
>>> Cats or Katz, DasFox?
>>>
>>> Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
>>> someone¢s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
>>> base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
>>> enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
>>> corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¢t recognize the
>>> concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
>>> Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
>>> thousand miles away.
>>>
>>> The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
>>> theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
>>> party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
>>> means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
>>> profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
>>> or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
>>> up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
>>> with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
>>> information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
>>> in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
>>> cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
>>> communicative state.
>>>
>>> Are you The Natural, Redford?
>>
>> TECH talk to me...
>>
>> No more NOT TECH Talk..
>>
>> THANKS
>
> Ok. I¢m going to let the Rolling Stones take it from here:
>
> Hear me prowlin¢
> I¢m gonna take you down
> Hear me growlin¢
> Yeah, I¢ve got flatted feet now, now, now, now
> Hear me howlin¢
> And all, all around your street now
> Hear me knockin¢
> And all, all around your town
>
> Maybe this was your favorite song. Because this is exactly what the
> DasFox/ODNI means to me. I have to say, it¢s a good song. But not the
> best.
>
> So what were your closing words to the team?
I said TALK TECH TALK not rambling nonTech rambling...
DO IT..
UNITE
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Pro poster to Wilders Security...home base...On usenet to help noobs
Not me...
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:58:25 -0500, nix wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:56:58 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>
>>>>> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
>>>>
>>>> Cats or Katz, DasFox?
>>>>
>>>> Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
>>>> someone¡¦s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
>>>> base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
>>>> enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
>>>> corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¡¦t recognize the
>>>> concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
>>>> Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
>>>> thousand miles away.
>>>>
>>>> The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
>>>> theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
>>>> party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
>>>> means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
>>>> profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
>>>> or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
>>>> up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
>>>> with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
>>>> information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
>>>> in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
>>>> cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
>>>> communicative state.
>>>>
>>>> Are you The Natural, Redford?
>>>
>>> TECH talk to me...
>>>
>>> No more NOT TECH Talk..
>>>
>>> THANKS
>>
>> Ok. I¡¦m going to let the Rolling Stones take it from here:
>>
>> Hear me prowlin¡¦
>> I¡¦m gonna take you down
>> Hear me growlin¡¦
>> Yeah, I¡¦ve got flatted feet now, now, now, now
>> Hear me howlin¡¦
>> And all, all around your street now
>> Hear me knockin¡¦
>> And all, all around your town
>>
>> Maybe this was your favorite song. Because this is exactly what the
>> DasFox/ODNI means to me. I have to say, it¡¦s a good song. But not the
>> best.
>>
>> So what were your closing words to the team?
>
> I said TALK TECH TALK not rambling nonTech rambling...
>
> DO IT..
>
> UNITE
You know what you need for your FOXy anniversary celebration? Some
different music. If you were here, I¡¦d whisper some suggestions in
your ear. It might sound like a hiss, but¡K
I¡¦m going to sign off now.
XO
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> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:59:45 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:58:25 -0500, nix wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 03:56:58 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> Hm, OK, so Africa is best which place...?
>>>>>
>>>>> Cats or Katz, DasFox?
>>>>>
>>>>> Private exchange platforms, whether they are triggered by a hiss in
>>>>> someone¡¦s ear, or an extended cryptonetwork, form a political power
>>>>> base that enable us to resist or rid ourselves of regulatory or
>>>>> enforcement organizations that we feel are either inefficient or
>>>>> corrupt. Yours or mine, Director. Communication doesn¡¦t recognize the
>>>>> concept of insiders or outsiders. It transmits by shared ideology.
>>>>> Your adversary is in the seat next to you and your friend is a
>>>>> thousand miles away.
>>>>>
>>>>> The internet is an inherently subversive technology. It allows,
>>>>> theoretically, for the unrestrained transmission of any data, by any
>>>>> party, to another. Access to encryption and privacy applications
>>>>> means the information and intelligence trade, whether motivated by
>>>>> profit or ideology, is going to explode, regardless of constitutional
>>>>> or criminal enterprise concerns. A true intelligence network is made
>>>>> up of informational and intelligence shapeshifters who do not align
>>>>> with a network unless it is in their interest to do so. Closed
>>>>> information systems are data exchange platforms. True intelligence,
>>>>> in the real sense of the word, transmits through a
>>>>> cryptocommunication system because it best replicates our natural
>>>>> communicative state.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you The Natural, Redford?
>>>>
>>>> TECH talk to me...
>>>>
>>>> No more NOT TECH Talk..
>>>>
>>>> THANKS
>>>
>>> Ok. I¡¦m going to let the Rolling Stones take it from here:
>>>
>>> Hear me prowlin¡¦
>>> I¡¦m gonna take you down
>>> Hear me growlin¡¦
>>> Yeah, I¡¦ve got flatted feet now, now, now, now
>>> Hear me howlin¡¦
>>> And all, all around your street now
>>> Hear me knockin¡¦
>>> And all, all around your town
>>>
>>> Maybe this was your favorite song. Because this is exactly what the
>>> DasFox/ODNI means to me. I have to say, it¡¦s a good song. But not the
>>> best.
>>>
>>> So what were your closing words to the team?
>>
>> I said TALK TECH TALK not rambling nonTech rambling...
>>
>> DO IT..
>>
>> UNITE
>
> You know what you need for your FOXy anniversary celebration? Some
> different music. If you were here, I¡¦d whisper some suggestions in
> your ear. It might sound like a hiss, but¡K
>
> I¡¦m going to sign off now.
> XO
THANKS
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Not me...
> Canada, and Germany are good...
> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>
> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>
> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
> the best listed.
>
> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
> screen, and can't see it well...
>
> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>
> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
> the USA...
>
> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>
> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>
> This map is better, and more up to date...
>
> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>
> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
> standpoint...
>
> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>
> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
> better places to run a VPN from...
>
> THANKS
>
> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>
> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
There is a fallacy in your logic.
There are definitely nations that are certainly more dangerous
than others such as a dictatorshop state such as China, North
Korea,
or Iran.
The notion that there is a "best country" is a fallacy.
There is no best country.
Every nation state is now geared towards surveillance.
All of them.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:35:12 +0100 (CET), Nomen Nescio wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 01:10:10 -0500, DasFox wrote:
>
>> Canada, and Germany are good...
>> Panama was, but I believe they recently passed a law there allowing
>> the United States access to data stored there of US citizens...
>>
>> So it may not be any better than Canada or Germany now...
>>
>> After looking at the map on the below link it appears that Greece is
>> the best listed.
>>
>> That is if you can see the map at all... I'm looking at it on 12 inch
>> screen, and can't see it well...
>>
>> http://www.privacyinternational.org/article.shtml?cmd[347]=x-347-559597
>>
>> OK, now LISTEN TECH NEWS...Forget Canada they have to close of ties to
>> the USA...
>>
>> And are practically in bed with them and as far as Germany is
>> concerned, there's hardly a place in Europe worth trusting too...
>>
>> Here is about as good of a list as you are going to find...
>>
>> This map is better, and more up to date...
>>
>> I just wish it gave more information about why each state received the
>> ranking it did. https://secure.cryptohippie.com/pubs/EPS-2010.pdf
>>
>> I've read this before, that doesn't really tell us much from a VPN
>> standpoint...
>>
>> Judging from what I've seen and learned over the last 2 months...,
>>
>> I'd take a bet that New Zealand and Iceland as probably two of the
>> better places to run a VPN from...
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> P.S. Something I just ran across...
>>
>> <http://www.laquadrature.net/en/iceland-to-become-a-model-for-freedom-of-communication>
>
> There is a fallacy in your logic.
>
> There are definitely nations that are certainly more dangerous than
> others such as a dictatorshop state such as China, North Korea, or
> Iran.
>
> The notion that there is a "best country" is a fallacy. There is no
> best country.
>
> Every nation state is now geared towards surveillance. All of them.
>
> There are no safe havens. Some are simply worse than others.
FALSE information...no TECH substance...
WHY are you doing this...?
Iceland for one...
Talk TECH not CRAP...
CRAP is false...you must be an ASSanger...
THANKS
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Not me...
Best Country For VPN 
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