On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:32:32 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>
> http://www.browserreport.com/
Bit Twister wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:32:32 +0000, ~BD~ wrote:
>> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>>
>> http://www.browserreport.com/
>
> Somewhat better site http://gemal.dk/browserspy/
Thank you for that site, Bit Twister. :)
Very interesting information.
I was especially pleased to be referred to OpenDNS, viZ:-
OpenDNS is the world's largest and fastest-growing DNS provider, making
the Internet safer, faster, smarter and more reliable for millions of
people around the world. Headquartered in San Francisco, the company
operates a new kind of recursive Domain Name System (DNS) service that
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industry-leading phishing protection through the DNS, free and without
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committed to operating the best DNS platform in the world and to
improving the Internet. For more information about OpenDNS, please
visit: http://www.opendns.com
~BD~ wrote:
> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>
> http://www.browserreport.com/
>
> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>
> 'Not a lot of people know that!' ;)
> --
> Dave
I dont know a lot about security - but why do you think any of this
information matters? So some website records your ip and type of os /
browser etc - so what?
what are they going to do and what can they do with that information to
harm me?
I just dont get it.
If i go and ring someone's door bell - of course they are going to open
the door and see me. what is the harm guys?
It happens that Cautious Joe formulated :
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>>
>> http://www.browserreport.com/
>>
>> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>>
>> 'Not a lot of people know that!' ;)
>> -- Dave
> I dont know a lot about security - but why do you think any of this
> information matters? So some website records your ip and type of os / browser
> etc - so what?
> what are they going to do and what can they do with that information to harm
> me?
> I just dont get it.
> If i go and ring someone's door bell - of course they are going to open the
> door and see me. what is the harm guys?
Why are you then hiding your IP when posting to this group? You people
advocating the right of others to know all about your computer habits
are very funny.
You are hiding your IP and your are posting under a nickname. Why do
you hide your real name when posting? What do you have to hide?
I hide my IP because I have something to hide, but since you do not,
why do that.
> Why are you then hiding your IP when posting to this group? You people
> advocating the right of others to know all about your computer habits
> are very funny.
>
> You are hiding your IP and your are posting under a nickname. Why do you
> hide your real name when posting? What do you have to hide?
>
> I hide my IP because I have something to hide, but since you do not, why
> do that.
What are you talking about Frank?
I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group. Presumably if my IP
is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
know why it is not visible to you.
What is more, I am not 'advocating' anything, yet you write "You people
advocating the right of others to know all about your computer habits
are very funny" ?
I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
far - only your rant.
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:14:00 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>>
>> http://www.browserreport.com/
>>
>> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>>
>> 'Not a lot of people know that!' ;)
>> --
>> Dave
> I dont know a lot about security - but why do you think any of this
> information matters? So some website records your ip and type of os /
> browser etc - so what?
> what are they going to do and what can they do with that information to
> harm me?
> I just dont get it.
> If i go and ring someone's door bell - of course they are going to open
> the door and see me. what is the harm guys?
With bits and pieces of information, you can be geolocated. Your IP
address identifies, potentially, a computer that could be infiltrated
and attacked/hacked. Think of your IP address as something as specific
as your house address or as general as the county you live in.
If you have nothing on your computer such as passwords, financial info,
personal info, all you do is play offline Solitaire, you're cool. If
not, you're susceptible to getting ****ed in the ***.
Hard.
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 08:35:14 +0100, Frank Merlott wrote:
> It happens that Cautious Joe formulated :
>> ~BD~ wrote:
>>> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>>>
>>> http://www.browserreport.com/
>>>
>>> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>>>
>>> 'Not a lot of people know that!' ;)
>>> -- Dave
>> I dont know a lot about security - but why do you think any of this
>> information matters? So some website records your ip and type of os / browser
>> etc - so what?
>> what are they going to do and what can they do with that information to harm
>> me?
>> I just dont get it.
>> If i go and ring someone's door bell - of course they are going to open the
>> door and see me. what is the harm guys?
>
> Why are you then hiding your IP when posting to this group? You people
> advocating the right of others to know all about your computer habits
> are very funny.
>
> You are hiding your IP and your are posting under a nickname. Why do
> you hide your real name when posting? What do you have to hide?
>
> I hide my IP because I have something to hide, but since you do not,
> why do that.
A little over the top there, Shiraz.
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> With bits and pieces of information, you can be geolocated. Your IP
> address identifies, potentially, a computer that could be infiltrated
> and attacked/hacked. Think of your IP address as something as specific
> as your house address or as general as the county you live in.
An IP address is essential for tcp/ip packets to be sent and recieved.
No connection can be made without it. There is nothing 'secret' about an
IP address.
IP addresses are attached to many surprising devices that sit on the
internet - not just PCs.
The idea that someone could be infiltrated because their IP address is
known, simply is not true. From a security standpoint, a pc should be
properly set up with a firewall at least. If some website chooses to
record my IP address, browser details (like shown in the website on the
link-) that is just about all they will get.
If i send a http request to a website to display a page. This will be in
the form of a stream of data packets. The data packet MUST contain a
return address - ie my IP address (or some proxy address) if i am to get
the return stream of data that will display the requested page.
Anyone who tells you that you can be anonymous on the internet is
misguided. There must always be a origin in a connection and that origin
can be traced in any number of ways - if someone wishes to do so.
So I do not understand why I should be worried about a website getting
my IP address and 'identifying' my browser - if I want that website to
communicate with me.
>
> If you have nothing on your computer such as passwords, financial info,
> personal info, all you do is play offline Solitaire, you're cool. If
> not, you're susceptible to getting ****ed in the ***.
Everyone is susceptible to that. You just have to try you best and hope
it never happens.
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:29:47 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> Ari® wrote:
>
>> With bits and pieces of information, you can be geolocated. Your IP
>> address identifies, potentially, a computer that could be infiltrated
>> and attacked/hacked. Think of your IP address as something as specific
>> as your house address or as general as the county you live in.
>
> An IP address is essential for tcp/ip packets to be sent and recieved.
> No connection can be made without it. There is nothing 'secret' about an
> IP address.
It is when you don't expose it or expose a proxies.
> IP addresses are attached to many surprising devices that sit on the
> internet - not just PCs.
Nice copy and paste btw. lol
> The idea that someone could be infiltrated because their IP address is
> known, simply is not true.
Really? I'll be damned. Whose going to tell all the malicious *******s
who do that every day? Ain't gonna be me.
> From a security standpoint, a pc should be
> properly set up with a firewall at least.
Really? Which one do you recommend?
> If some website chooses to
> record my IP address, browser details (like shown in the website on the
> link-) that is just about all they will get. http://www.browserreport.com/
> If i send a http request to a website to display a page. This will be in
> the form of a stream of data packets. The data packet MUST contain a
> return address - ie my IP address (or some proxy address) if i am to get
> the return stream of data that will display the requested page.
Copy-paste-irrelevant
> Anyone who tells you that you can be anonymous on the internet is
> misguided. There must always be a origin in a connection and that origin
> can be traced in any number of ways - if someone wishes to do so.
Well, you're all full of ******** today.
> So I do not understand why I should be worried about a website getting
> my IP address and 'identifying' my browser - if I want that website to
> communicate with me.
No worries, keep on truckin', God protects the inane and ignorant.
>> If you have nothing on your computer such as passwords, financial info,
>> personal info, all you do is play offline Solitaire, you're cool. If
>> not, you're susceptible to getting ****ed in the ***.
>
> Everyone is susceptible to that. You just have to try you best and hope
> it never happens.
Yeah.
Yeah, that'll work. lol
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On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:14:00 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> ~BD~ wrote:
>> Essential information about *your* web browser may be found here:
>>
>> http://www.browserreport.com/
>>
>> Any of this information may be seen by *any* URL one visits.
>>
>> 'Not a lot of people know that!' ;)
>> --
>> Dave
> I dont know a lot about security
lol You do know a lot about being a duplicious assclown though.
> - but why do you think any of this
> information matters? So some website records your ip and type of os /
> browser etc - so what?
You would never understand, you don't know anything about security,
remember?
> what are they going to do and what can they do with that information to
> harm me?
> I just dont get it.
Got that part right.
> If i go and ring someone's door bell - of course they are going to open
> the door and see me. what is the harm guys?
Depends on what you like. Today, you look like an AssClown.
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
> far - only your rant.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
questions yourself.
This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 17:29:47 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>
>> Ari® wrote:
>>
>>> With bits and pieces of information, you can be geolocated. Your IP
>>> address identifies, potentially, a computer that could be infiltrated
>>> and attacked/hacked. Think of your IP address as something as specific
>>> as your house address or as general as the county you live in.
>>
>> An IP address is essential for tcp/ip packets to be sent and recieved.
>> No connection can be made without it. There is nothing 'secret' about an
>> IP address.
>
> It is when you don't expose it or expose a proxies.
>
>> IP addresses are attached to many surprising devices that sit on the
>> internet - not just PCs.
>
> Nice copy and paste btw. lol
>
>> The idea that someone could be infiltrated because their IP address is
>> known, simply is not true.
>
> Really? I'll be damned. Whose going to tell all the malicious *******s
> who do that every day? Ain't gonna be me.
>
>> From a security standpoint, a pc should be
>> properly set up with a firewall at least.
>
> Really? Which one do you recommend?
Joseph, welcome to Freeware University and as we say
FU
A freeware scientist will be along any week now with suitable freeware,
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Of course.
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>
>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
>> far - only your rant.
>
> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
> questions yourself.
>
> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:33:26 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>
>>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
>>> far - only your rant.
>>
>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
>> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
>> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
>> questions yourself.
>>
>> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
>
> So what we have here is an assclown, correct?
Essentially, yes.
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:06 -0400, No One wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:33:26 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
>>>> far - only your rant.
>>>
>>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
>>> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
>>> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
>>> questions yourself.
>>>
>>> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
>>
>> So what we have here is an assclown, correct?
>
> Essentially, yes.
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:32 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:06 -0400, No One wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:33:26 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
>>>>> far - only your rant.
>>>>
>>>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
>>>> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
>>>> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
>>>> questions yourself.
>>>>
>>>> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
>>>
>>> So what we have here is an assclown, correct?
>>
>> Essentially, yes.
>
> http://www.***-clown.net/
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>
>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>
> Yes you are.
>
>> Presumably if my IP
>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>> know why it is not visible to you.
>
> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:24:24 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>
>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>
>> Yes you are.
>>
>>> Presumably if my IP
>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>
>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>
> I thought we determined he was an assclown?
Ari-El said AssClown, no not assclown, can we agree agreement?
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:24:24 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>
>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>
>> Yes you are.
>>
>>> Presumably if my IP
>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>
>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>
> I thought we determined he was an assclown?
We've moved on from tosser, yes. Indeed. Exactly.
And such.
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:45:13 -0400, Mohamed Elshayal wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:42:18 -0400, "+" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:24:24 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>>
>>>> Presumably if my IP
>>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>>
>>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>>
>> I thought we determined he was an assclown?
>
> Ari-El said AssClown, no not assclown, can we agree agreement?
On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:50:14 -0400, Thomas Stevens wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:45:13 -0400, Mohamed Elshayal wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:42:18 -0400, "+" wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:24:24 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>>>
>>>> Yes you are.
>>>>
>>>>> Presumably if my IP
>>>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>>>
>>>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>>>
>>> I thought we determined he was an assclown?
>>
>> Ari-El said AssClown, no not assclown, can we agree agreement?
>
> +1
It doesn't have to be my way. Let's ask the AssClown.
AssClown, do you prefer tosser, assclown or AssClown, AssClown?
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Ari® wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>
>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>
> Yes you are.
>
>> Presumably if my IP
>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>> know why it is not visible to you.
>
> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:39:22 -0400, Preesi wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:32 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:06 -0400, No One wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:33:26 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
>>>>>> far - only your rant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
>>>>> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
>>>>> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
>>>>> questions yourself.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
>>>>
>>>> So what we have here is an assclown, correct?
>>>
>>> Essentially, yes.
>>
>> http://www.***-clown.net/
>
> More like this, the image at least.
>
> http://www.smooth3d.com/xterra/assclown.jpg
It appear Mr. AssClown has exited Stage Right.
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:57:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> Ari® wrote:
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>
>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>
>> Yes you are.
>>
>>> Presumably if my IP
>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>
>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>
> Why dont you go and get ****ed?
I wasn't aware your Mommy was home.
AssClown.
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:57:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>
>> Ari® wrote:
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>>
>>> Yes you are.
>>>
>>>> Presumably if my IP
>>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>>
>>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>>
>> Why dont you go and get ****ed?
>
> I wasn't aware your Mommy was home.
>
> AssClown.
Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AssClown came back !!!!!!
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:47:05 -0400, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:42 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:57:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>
>>> Ari® wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>>>
>>>> Yes you are.
>>>>
>>>>> Presumably if my IP
>>>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>>>
>>>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>>>
>>> Why dont you go and get ****ed?
>>
>> I wasn't aware your Mommy was home.
>>
>> AssClown.
>
> Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AssClown came back !!!!!!
I don't believe he is going to stay however.
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> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:47:05 -0400, Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:32:42 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 19:57:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ari® wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not 'hiding' my IP when posting to this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes you are.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Presumably if my IP
>>>>>> is not visible it may have something to do with my newsserver - I do not
>>>>>> know why it is not visible to you.
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't how to read a header? Or a TOS? Are you a tosser?
>>>>
>>>> Why dont you go and get ****ed?
>>>
>>> I wasn't aware your Mommy was home.
>>>
>>> AssClown.
>>
>> Yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AssClown came back !!!!!!
>
> I don't believe he is going to stay however.
Kiddies, aren't they such fun though!
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"ARACari, Ph.D." <arisilverstein@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:40:20 -0400, Ari® wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:39:22 -0400, Preesi wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:32 -0400, Ari® wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:37:06 -0400, No One wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 14:33:26 -0400, Ari® wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:45:09 +0000, Cautious Joe wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I simply asked a question - which has not had any meaningful answer so
> >>>>>> far - only your rant.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wrong, wrong, wrong, AssClown. You asked several questions, got expert
> >>>>> responses, then assclowned copy and pasted a load of ********, denying
> >>>>> the expert answers and, in the process attempted to answer your own
> >>>>> questions yourself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> This is what is called "assclowning", AssClown.
> >>>>
> >>>> So what we have here is an assclown, correct?
> >>>
> >>> Essentially, yes.
> >>
> >> http://www.***-clown.net/
> >
> > More like this, the image at least.
> >
> > http://www.smooth3d.com/xterra/assclown.jpg
>
> It appear Mr. AssClown has exited Stage Right.
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