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Old 09-07-2005, 09:09 AM
Franklin
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Default Free software firewalls I have never heard of before

I was looking for an alternative freeware firewall (I don't like
ZA, Sygate is nice but I get problems with it, Kerio 2.1.5 is too
technical for me, and Outpost is too hard to work out)

I thought I had tried all the free firewalls but then I came
across this web page:
<http://www.klitetools.com/index.php?action=news&catid=47>

I have never heard of products like these:

R-Firewall 1.0 Build 53
Look n Stop Lite 1.04
Securepoint Personal Firewall 3.7.1
WyvernWorks Firewall 5.2
Filseclab Personal Firewall 2.5
SoftPerfect Personal Firewall 1.4.1
Jetico Personal Firewall 1.0.1.61

Are they fully functioning full-strength firewalls? Many look as
if they are only just out of beta if the version number is
anything to go by.

But others seems to have a mature version number and I have never
heard of them.

What do people know about these?

Frank


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Old 09-07-2005, 10:26 AM
Hermann Berben
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I've tried most freeware firewalls and I get very good results with NetVeda
Safety.Net

Had problems with sp2 and securepoint
wasn't satisfied with r-firewall and jetico
had good results with wyvern

hope it helps


"Franklin" <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote in message
news:96CA5D2A7EB2071F3M4@204.153.244.156...
>I was looking for an alternative freeware firewall (I don't like
> ZA, Sygate is nice but I get problems with it, Kerio 2.1.5 is too
> technical for me, and Outpost is too hard to work out)
>
> I thought I had tried all the free firewalls but then I came
> across this web page:
> <http://www.klitetools.com/index.php?action=news&catid=47>
>
> I have never heard of products like these:
>
> R-Firewall 1.0 Build 53
> Look n Stop Lite 1.04
> Securepoint Personal Firewall 3.7.1
> WyvernWorks Firewall 5.2
> Filseclab Personal Firewall 2.5
> SoftPerfect Personal Firewall 1.4.1
> Jetico Personal Firewall 1.0.1.61
>
> Are they fully functioning full-strength firewalls? Many look as
> if they are only just out of beta if the version number is
> anything to go by.
>
> But others seems to have a mature version number and I have never
> heard of them.
>
> What do people know about these?
>
> Frank
>
>
> --
>
> [sorry guys if it offends but x-posting seems appropriate this
> time]




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Old 09-07-2005, 12:52 PM
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"Hermann Berben" <Hermann.Berben@telenet.be> wrote in
news:8nyTe.188044$f25.10204211@phobos.telenet-ops.be:

> I've tried most freeware firewalls and I get very good results with
> NetVeda Safety.Net
>
> Had problems with sp2 and securepoint
> wasn't satisfied with r-firewall and jetico
> had good results with wyvern
>

<SNIP>

1) Jetico was not good (but I cannot remember why though) I stuck with
Sygate 2) Did not like Wyvern Works either. So far FOR ME, Sygate has
been the best.

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Old 09-07-2005, 02:24 PM
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El Gee wrote:

> 1) Jetico was not good (but I cannot remember why though) I stuck with
> Sygate 2) Did not like Wyvern Works either. So far FOR ME, Sygate has
> been the best.


maybe but it has been bought out by norton. So no matter how good it was in
the past(It was my preference also) it may not remain a viable solution.

I have been looking at jetico for quite some time and done allot or reading
on it over at wildersecurity. It seems to be an excellent firewall but it
is also more advanced so you will need to actually think to use it. If you
want something easy and brain dead simple but not as featurefull you should
look elsewere. I have not used it personally though.

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Old 09-07-2005, 03:06 PM
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Default Re: Free software firewalls I have never heard of before

Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote in news:96CA5D2A7EB2071F3M4@
204.153.244.156:

> I was looking for an alternative freeware firewall (I don't like
> ZA, Sygate is nice but I get problems with it, Kerio 2.1.5 is too
> technical for me, and Outpost is too hard to work out)
>
> I thought I had tried all the free firewalls but then I came
> across this web page:
> <http://www.klitetools.com/index.php?action=news&catid=47>
>
> I have never heard of products like these:
>
> R-Firewall 1.0 Build 53
> Look n Stop Lite 1.04
> Securepoint Personal Firewall 3.7.1
> WyvernWorks Firewall 5.2
> Filseclab Personal Firewall 2.5
> SoftPerfect Personal Firewall 1.4.1
> Jetico Personal Firewall 1.0.1.61
>
> Are they fully functioning full-strength firewalls? Many look as
> if they are only just out of beta if the version number is
> anything to go by.
>
> But others seems to have a mature version number and I have never
> heard of them.
>
> What do people know about these?
>
> Frank



I don't know about the others but Look n Stop (the full version)
regularly takes turns with Outpost as the number 1 firewall in
independent reviews. (Look n Stop isn't very well known, though.)

See, for instance:

www.firewallleaktester.com (that's 3 L's in a row!)

Regards,


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Old 09-07-2005, 03:24 PM
Jim Scott
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On 07 Sep 2005 14:06:23 GMT, nemo_outis wrote:

> Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote in news:96CA5D2A7EB2071F3M4@
> 204.153.244.156:
>
>> I was looking for an alternative freeware firewall (I don't like
>> ZA, Sygate is nice but I get problems with it, Kerio 2.1.5 is too
>> technical for me, and Outpost is too hard to work out)
>>
>> I thought I had tried all the free firewalls but then I came
>> across this web page:
>> <http://www.klitetools.com/index.php?action=news&catid=47>
>>
>> I have never heard of products like these:
>>
>> R-Firewall 1.0 Build 53
>> Look n Stop Lite 1.04
>> Securepoint Personal Firewall 3.7.1
>> WyvernWorks Firewall 5.2
>> Filseclab Personal Firewall 2.5
>> SoftPerfect Personal Firewall 1.4.1
>> Jetico Personal Firewall 1.0.1.61
>>
>> Are they fully functioning full-strength firewalls? Many look as
>> if they are only just out of beta if the version number is
>> anything to go by.
>>
>> But others seems to have a mature version number and I have never
>> heard of them.
>>
>> What do people know about these?
>>
>> Frank

>
>
> I don't know about the others but Look n Stop (the full version)
> regularly takes turns with Outpost as the number 1 firewall in
> independent reviews. (Look n Stop isn't very well known, though.)
>
> See, for instance:
>
> www.firewallleaktester.com (that's 3 L's in a row!)


Look n Stop is not freeware.
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Old 09-08-2005, 03:33 AM
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Jim Scott <mr.jimscott@Xvirgin.net> wrote in news:3fh249zylmt$.dlg@ID-
104726.news.individual.net:

> On 07 Sep 2005 14:06:23 GMT, nemo_outis wrote:
>> I don't know about the others but Look n Stop (the full version)
>> regularly takes turns with Outpost as the number 1 firewall in
>> independent reviews. (Look n Stop isn't very well known, though.)
>>
>> See, for instance:
>>
>> www.firewallleaktester.com (that's 3 L's in a row!)



> Look n Stop is not freeware.



You're undoubtedly correct - I tend to gloss over such distinctions; the
concept of paying for software does not loom large in my mind :-)

Regards,


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Old 09-08-2005, 10:37 AM
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* Mel <MJ@nospam.com>:
>>On 08 Sep 2005 02:33:51 GMT, "nemo_outis" <abc@xyz.com> wrote:
>>
>>the concept of paying for software does not loom large in my mind :-)
>>

> Maybe in the future you would consider not cross-posting to a group
> where such a concept is off-topic.
>


What concept would that be? Not paying for software? I haven't paid for
software for years yet I'm totally legal so dont get all high and mighty
thinking we're talking warez.

Jason

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Old 09-09-2005, 04:54 PM
Brett Michaels From Poison
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Go with kerio..lot's of options and very tech intuitive.
The free version doesnt disable the protection measures needed for a
home system.

It may take a bit of time to learn the features, but it's worth it. It
is the most robust out of the free firewalls that I have tried.


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Old 09-10-2005, 09:31 AM
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>From: "Brett Michaels From Poison"

>Go with kerio..lot's of options and very tech intuitive.


"Kerio Personal Firewall will be discontinued as of December 31, 2005.
It will not be available for purchase after this date. Subscriptions
will not be renewed. Technical support will be provided to all
customers with valid subscriptions until the end of 2006."

Quote taken from Kerio Forum:
http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=...8b4e93472fa6fb

Rgds,

Yourhighness


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Old 09-10-2005, 12:01 PM
Fred
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If it's not for sale and discontinued then it's no crime to use a crack
with it. ;)


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Old 09-10-2005, 04:52 PM
David
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On 10 Sep 2005 04:01:35 -0700, "Fred" <fred_whitaker@hotmail.com>
typed furiously:

>If it's not for sale and discontinued then it's no crime to use a crack
>with it. ;)


It is still a copyright work and it would be illegal to do as you
suggest.
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Old 09-10-2005, 09:36 PM
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"Yourhighness" <betzjohannes@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1126341101.223155.198110@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com:

>>From: "Brett Michaels From Poison"

>
>>Go with kerio..lot's of options and very tech intuitive.

>
> "Kerio Personal Firewall will be discontinued as of December 31, 2005.
> It will not be available for purchase after this date. Subscriptions
> will not be renewed. Technical support will be provided to all
> customers with valid subscriptions until the end of 2006."
>
> Quote taken from Kerio Forum:
> http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=...=87a76357fa565
> eb8998b4e93472fa6fb
>
> Rgds,
>
> Yourhighness
>


I am starting to really this one,..

http://www.snapfiles.com/get/netvadanet.html

NetVeda Safety.Net is an application firewall that offers inbound and
outbound protection, as well as filtering, parental controls and email
safety to protect you from hackers, worms, Trojans and intruders. It uses
multi layer deep packet stateful inspection and enables you to configure
which applications and components are trusted to access the network or
Internet. In addition, some advanced firewall settings enable you to
customize rules for enhanced security. The firewall features are basic,
but application control and content filtering are easy to use and offer
good features that let you restrict access to web sites, remove content
from emails and browser requests, disarm email attachments and more. In
addition, NetVeda Safety.Net offers detailed reports about application
and network activity and allows you to apply rules to network computer
that use your machine as Internet gateway.
...

It seems to be doing the job and very pleasing to my habits.

I am running it with Goldtach-FW on a w2k56kdialup..and chugging along
rather swiftly..


gw

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Old 09-11-2005, 08:20 AM
Fred
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Well, since it's free for personal use then I guess it doesn't matter
anyway.


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Old 09-11-2005, 10:05 AM
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Global Warming wrote:
> "Yourhighness" <betzjohannes@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1126341101.223155.198110@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com:
>
>
> I am starting to really this one,..
>
> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/netvadanet.html
>
> NetVeda Safety.Net is an application firewall that offers inbound and
> outbound protection, as well as filtering, parental controls and email

[]
> It seems to be doing the job and very pleasing to my habits.
>
> I am running it with Goldtach-FW on a w2k56kdialup..and chugging along
> rather swiftly..


not tried it yet, but it's a 6.2M download. Then again Kerio PF is 7M these
days!
No wonder they changed the name from Tiny Personal Firewall (that was <400k)



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Old 09-11-2005, 12:27 PM
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On Thu 08 Sep 2005 03:33:51, nemo_outis wrote:
<news:Xns96CAD1355E333abcxyzcom@204.153.244.170>

>>> I don't know about the others but Look n Stop (the full
>>> version) regularly takes turns with Outpost as the number 1
>>> firewall in independent reviews. (Look n Stop isn't very
>>> well known, though.)
>>>
>>> See, for instance:
>>>
>>> www.firewallleaktester.com (that's 3 L's in a row!)

>
>
>> Look n Stop is not freeware.

>
>
> You're undoubtedly correct - I tend to gloss over such
> distinctions; the concept of paying for software does not loom
> large in my mind :-)
>
> Regards,


I had asked in the first line of my OP for "freeware". Grrr! :-)

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Old 09-11-2005, 12:28 PM
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On Sun 11 Sep 2005 08:20:41, Fred wrote:
<news:1126423241.133463.72070@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com>

>
> Well, since it's free for personal use then I guess it doesn't
> matter anyway.


I thought the cognoscenti used the much older Kerio 2.1.5 which is
freeware.

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Old 09-11-2005, 01:15 PM
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Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com> wrote in news:96CE7EC718E7471F3M4@
204.153.244.156:


> I had asked in the first line of my OP for "freeware". Grrr! :-)


There is a free "lite" version of Look N Stop on Snapfiles.com. Though as an
older version you may not be interested.

Ibn




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Old 09-11-2005, 03:19 PM
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Yourhighness wrote:
>
> >From: "Brett Michaels From Poison"

>
> >Go with kerio..lot's of options and very tech intuitive.

>
> "Kerio Personal Firewall will be discontinued as of December 31, 2005.
> It will not be available for purchase after this date. Subscriptions
> will not be renewed. Technical support will be provided to all
> customers with valid subscriptions until the end of 2006."
>
> Quote taken from Kerio Forum:
> http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=...8b4e93472fa6fb


Correction...

According to Kerio's web site, the cutoff date is September 30, 2005.

Notan

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Old 09-11-2005, 03:21 PM
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Fred wrote:
>
> Well, since it's free for personal use then I guess it doesn't matter
> anyway.


There's a free version and a pay version.

Unless Kerio decides to change the pay version, it's stealing, no matter
how you rationalize.

Notan

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Old 09-11-2005, 08:49 PM
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:36:50 -0500, Global Warming
<griverwatch@myrealbox.com> wrote:

>I am starting to really this one,..
>
>http://www.snapfiles.com/get/netvadanet.html


Just tried it, and it didn't alert when I started IE, nor when
I did a av update. It only seems to block certain apps. So
I chucked it. I'm sticking with Sygate :)

Art

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Old 09-12-2005, 01:23 PM
Brett Michaels From Poison
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Oh man. you're breakin my heart.
Well i guess i'll always have rock n roll at least


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Old 09-12-2005, 03:19 PM
Notan
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Brett Michaels From Poison wrote:
>
> Oh man. you're breakin my heart.
> Well i guess i'll always have rock n roll at least


It kinda pisses me off, as I just purchased Personal Firewall in August.

Notan

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Old 09-13-2005, 12:12 PM
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Sorry, but you can't steal what isn't for sale. ;)


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Old 09-13-2005, 02:23 PM
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Fred wrote:
>
> Sorry, but you can't steal what isn't for sale. ;)


OK, Fred. You come out of your house and find your car missing.

According to your logic, you can't report it stolen, because
it wasn't for sale.

Did I miss something?

Notan

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Old 09-13-2005, 02:50 PM
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Not the same thing -- my car was never for sale in the first place, and
then removed from the market for no reason.


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Old 09-13-2005, 02:59 PM
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Fred wrote:
>
> Not the same thing -- my car was never for sale in the first place, and
> then removed from the market for no reason.


If you're gonna make a stupid remarks, I'll play along...

1) Your car's for sale and, for no reason, you decide not to sell it.
According to you, someone has the right to steal it. Is that correct?

2) How do you know Kerio removed it from the market for no reason.

Mind you, at this time, I'm not real happy with Query. I paid full
price for Personal Firewall, in August, only to find out they're
discontinuing the product in September.

Notan

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Notan wrote:
>
> Fred wrote:
> >
> > Not the same thing -- my car was never for sale in the first place, and
> > then removed from the market for no reason.

>
> If you're gonna make a stupid remarks, I'll play along...
>
> 1) Your car's for sale and, for no reason, you decide not to sell it.
> According to you, someone has the right to steal it. Is that correct?
>
> 2) How do you know Kerio removed it from the market for no reason.
>
> Mind you, at this time, I'm not real happy with Query. I paid full
> price for Personal Firewall, in August, only to find out they're
> discontinuing the product in September.


Ooops! That was "... not real happy with Kerio."

Notan

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Old 09-16-2005, 06:31 PM
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On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:28:50 +0100, Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com>
wrote:

>On Sun 11 Sep 2005 08:20:41, Fred wrote:
><news:1126423241.133463.72070@g44g2000cwa.googleg roups.com>
>
>>
>> Well, since it's free for personal use then I guess it doesn't
>> matter anyway.

>
>I thought the cognoscenti used the much older Kerio 2.1.5 which is
>freeware.


I just checked and mine is 2.1.5

It's always worked, so I never followed what was happening at Kerio.
What's the deal with them ? They going belly up or just the
norton/mcaffee corporate sleazoid route ?


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Old 09-16-2005, 06:52 PM
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alvin@nospam.com wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:28:50 +0100, Franklin <no_thanks@mail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Sun 11 Sep 2005 08:20:41, Fred wrote:
> ><news:1126423241.133463.72070@g44g2000cwa.googleg roups.com>
> >
> >>
> >> Well, since it's free for personal use then I guess it doesn't
> >> matter anyway.

> >
> >I thought the cognoscenti used the much older Kerio 2.1.5 which is
> >freeware.

>
> I just checked and mine is 2.1.5
>
> It's always worked, so I never followed what was happening at Kerio.
> What's the deal with them ? They going belly up or just the
> norton/mcaffee corporate sleazoid route ?


As I posted, earlier in this thread, I paid full price for Personal Firewall,
in August, only to find out they're discontinuing the product in September.

After writing to Customer Service, this was their response:

"Our decision to discontinue KPF is based on a refocusing of our company towards
our 2 flagship products, Kerio MailServer and Kerio WinRoute Firewall."

Notan

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