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Old 02-04-2007, 03:25 AM
jaygreg
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Default Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

I'm not a photo sharing computer user. Don't have a webpage nor any need for
one. I've been aware that sites like MySpace and Flickr are popular for
socializing and posting photos. Still... no personal utility.

Today I just saw a potential use. From time to time, I use a digital camera
to photgraph construction problems; renovations, repairs, and things needing
fixed that get a tad expensive and involved. I've been printing these out
and carrying then with me. It would be helpful to simply view them from
machines owned by the merchants and vendors with whom I find myself
discussing the problems.

Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came to
the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
hoping to avoid that.

Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?



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Old 02-04-2007, 03:53 PM
Arthur T.
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In Message-ID:<45c5601d$0$28162$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came to
>the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
>hoping to avoid that.
>
>Am I being too cautious?


I installed, but then removed Picasa.

It's full-featured and very easy to use. However, it
continually looks for pictures on you computer and stores
information about them onto C:. Since C: is one of my few drives
that's *not* encrypted, I considered this a data leak. As near as
I could tell, there was no easy way to tell it to not collect the
data or to use a different drive/directory.

I've seen reference to a number of sites that allow you to
upload various kinds of data, some of which will be publicly
browsable, some which you'd need to know the exact URL. I haven't
needed one, so I don't know their names. Google is your friend.

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Old 02-04-2007, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:25:05 -0500, "jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came to
>the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
>hoping to avoid that.
>
>Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
>web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?
>


Try http://www.imagestation.com ??
Does your own ISP not provide you with free photo web space? Most
do......
Dee

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Old 02-04-2007, 11:48 PM
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

jaygreg wrote:
> I'm not a photo sharing computer user. Don't have a webpage nor any need for
> one. I've been aware that sites like MySpace and Flickr are popular for
> socializing and posting photos. Still... no personal utility.
>
> Today I just saw a potential use. From time to time, I use a digital camera
> to photgraph construction problems; renovations, repairs, and things needing
> fixed that get a tad expensive and involved. I've been printing these out
> and carrying then with me. It would be helpful to simply view them from
> machines owned by the merchants and vendors with whom I find myself
> discussing the problems.
>
> Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came to
> the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
> hoping to avoid that.
>
> Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
> web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?


it is possible to use their photo sharing service without installing
anything... it's just not the path they're hoping you'll choose/leading
you down...

if it's too hard for you to find your way through to their web album
functionality then maybe flickr would be more appropriate since they
actually want you to use their web interface...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

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Old 02-05-2007, 05:04 PM
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

In article <45c5601d$0$28162$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, jaygreg90
@hotmail.com says...
> Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came to
> the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
> hoping to avoid that.
>
> Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
> web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?
>
>
>


You don't need to install Picasa on your machine to use the online
service. You establish an account and then upload your photos. I
recently started doing just that and I have no intention of installing
their software on my computer. I chose Picasaweb because it is the only
one I've been able to find that will do full-screen display of photos
with no advertising around it.

CD



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Old 02-05-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

Hummm. Good point. I'd need full screen.

"Cranky Dude" <chacham@infoventures.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.20313b9e89018d5b989681@news.speakeasy.net ...
> In article <45c5601d$0$28162$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>, jaygreg90
> @hotmail.com says...
>> Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came
>> to
>> the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
>> hoping to avoid that.
>>
>> Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
>> web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?
>>
>>
>>

>
> You don't need to install Picasa on your machine to use the online
> service. You establish an account and then upload your photos. I
> recently started doing just that and I have no intention of installing
> their software on my computer. I chose Picasaweb because it is the only
> one I've been able to find that will do full-screen display of photos
> with no advertising around it.
>
> CD
>
>




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Old 02-05-2007, 05:16 PM
jaygreg
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

I think it does, Dee. I'll look into that. Thanks.

"Dee" <not-at-this-address@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 23:25:05 -0500, "jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came
>>to
>>the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
>>hoping to avoid that.
>>
>>Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
>>web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?
>>

>
> Try http://www.imagestation.com ??
> Does your own ISP not provide you with free photo web space? Most
> do......
> Dee




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Old 02-05-2007, 05:17 PM
jaygreg
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

Thanks, Arthur T. I didn't think Google would venture somewhere that made
gurus unhappy but I wasn't sure.


"Arthur T." <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote in message
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> In Message-ID:<45c5601d$0$28162$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came
>>to
>>the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I was
>>hoping to avoid that.
>>
>>Am I being too cautious?

>
> I installed, but then removed Picasa.
>
> It's full-featured and very easy to use. However, it
> continually looks for pictures on you computer and stores
> information about them onto C:. Since C: is one of my few drives
> that's *not* encrypted, I considered this a data leak. As near as
> I could tell, there was no easy way to tell it to not collect the
> data or to use a different drive/directory.
>
> I've seen reference to a number of sites that allow you to
> upload various kinds of data, some of which will be publicly
> browsable, some which you'd need to know the exact URL. I haven't
> needed one, so I don't know their names. Google is your friend.
>
> --
> Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" intergate "dot" com
> Looking for a z/OS (IBM mainframe) systems programmer position




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Old 02-05-2007, 05:21 PM
jaygreg
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Default Re: Google Picasa & Photo Sharing

I started looking at Flicker after I learned Picasa wanted to download. I'll
keep your comments in mind.

P.S. By the way, Kurt, with regard to your sig... the only thing worse than
goin' through life totally stoned... is goin' through life totally sober!
:-)

"kurt wismer" <kurtw@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:eq5urb$du$1@aioe.org...
> jaygreg wrote:
>> I'm not a photo sharing computer user. Don't have a webpage nor any need
>> for one. I've been aware that sites like MySpace and Flickr are popular
>> for socializing and posting photos. Still... no personal utility.
>>
>> Today I just saw a potential use. From time to time, I use a digital
>> camera to photgraph construction problems; renovations, repairs, and
>> things needing fixed that get a tad expensive and involved. I've been
>> printing these out and carrying then with me. It would be helpful to
>> simply view them from machines owned by the merchants and vendors with
>> whom I find myself discussing the problems.
>>
>> Google's Picasa caught my eye so I read most of the writeup. Then I came
>> to the part where I needed to place something of theirs on my machine. I
>> was hoping to avoid that.
>>
>> Am I being too cautious? Can someone please give me a recommendation of a
>> web photo service I should use that more closely fits this type of use?

>
> it is possible to use their photo sharing service without installing
> anything... it's just not the path they're hoping you'll choose/leading
> you down...
>
> if it's too hard for you to find your way through to their web album
> functionality then maybe flickr would be more appropriate since they
> actually want you to use their web interface...
>
> --
> "it's not the right time to be sober
> now the idiots have taken over
> spreading like a social cancer,
> is there an answer?"




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Old 02-05-2007, 10:29 PM
Arthur T.
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In Message-ID:<45c774cd$0$24531$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Thanks, Arthur T. I didn't think Google would venture somewhere that made
>gurus unhappy but I wasn't sure.


You're welcome. (I'm not a guru; just someone who's
cautious.)

BTW, if you have Windows Indexing turned on, the same kind of
data leak occurs, but for text rather than pictures.

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Old 02-06-2007, 05:30 AM
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RE "Windows Indexing" ... what's that? I couldn't find anything in a search.

"Arthur T." <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote in message
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> In Message-ID:<45c774cd$0$24531$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Thanks, Arthur T. I didn't think Google would venture somewhere that made
>>gurus unhappy but I wasn't sure.

>
> You're welcome. (I'm not a guru; just someone who's
> cautious.)
>
> BTW, if you have Windows Indexing turned on, the same kind of
> data leak occurs, but for text rather than pictures.
>
> --
> Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" intergate "dot" com
> Looking for a z/OS (IBM mainframe) systems programmer position




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Old 02-06-2007, 03:05 PM
Arthur T.
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In Message-ID:<45c82066$0$16684$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:

>RE "Windows Indexing" ... what's that? I couldn't find anything in a search.


Copied from Window's own HELP:

Indexing Service overview
Indexing Service extracts the information from a set of documents
and organizes it in a way that makes it quick and easy to access
that information through the Windows 2000 Search function, the
Indexing Service query form, or a Web browser. This information
can include text from within a document (its contents), and the
characteristics and parameters of the document (its properties),
such as the author's name. Once the index is created you can query
the index for documents that contain key words, phrases, or
properties. For example, you can query all documents containing
the word "product," or you can query for all Microsoft Office
documents written by a specific author. Indexing Service returns a
list of all documents that meet your search criteria. For
information on the different ways to create a query, see Making
queries.

Through a process called indexing, Indexing Service uses a
document filter to read through a document and extract the text
and properties to pass to the indexer. For more information about
indexing, see Indexing.

Indexing Service automatically stores all the index information in
the System or the Web catalogs. For more information about
catalogs, see Catalogs.

Indexing Service indexes the following types of documents:

HTML
Text
Microsoft Office 95 and later
Internet mail and news (with Internet Information Services
installed)
Any other document for which a document filter is available
Indexing Service is designed to run continuously and requires
little maintenance. After it is set up, all operations are
automatic, including index creation, index updating, and crash
recovery if there is a power failure. For information about
administering Indexing Service, see Administering Indexing
Service.

Administrators and application developers can develop custom
filters for other kinds of documents. For more information on
developing custom filters, see the Microsoft Platform Software
Development Kit.


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Old 02-07-2007, 04:35 PM
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>> Copied from Window's own HELP<<

Perhaps on your machine, Arthur, but not mine. When I type "Windows
Indexing" in the "Help and Support Center" of my Windows XP Professional
window, I get "Full-text Search Matches returned 0 results for "windows
indexing".

"Arthur T." <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote in message
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> In Message-ID:<45c82066$0$16684$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>RE "Windows Indexing" ... what's that? I couldn't find anything in a
>>search.

>
> Copied from Window's own HELP:
>
> Indexing Service overview
> Indexing Service extracts the information from a set of documents
> and organizes it in a way that makes it quick and easy to access
> that information through the Windows 2000 Search function, the
> Indexing Service query form, or a Web browser. This information
> can include text from within a document (its contents), and the
> characteristics and parameters of the document (its properties),
> such as the author's name. Once the index is created you can query
> the index for documents that contain key words, phrases, or
> properties. For example, you can query all documents containing
> the word "product," or you can query for all Microsoft Office
> documents written by a specific author. Indexing Service returns a
> list of all documents that meet your search criteria. For
> information on the different ways to create a query, see Making
> queries.
>
> Through a process called indexing, Indexing Service uses a
> document filter to read through a document and extract the text
> and properties to pass to the indexer. For more information about
> indexing, see Indexing.
>
> Indexing Service automatically stores all the index information in
> the System or the Web catalogs. For more information about
> catalogs, see Catalogs.
>
> Indexing Service indexes the following types of documents:
>
> HTML
> Text
> Microsoft Office 95 and later
> Internet mail and news (with Internet Information Services
> installed)
> Any other document for which a document filter is available
> Indexing Service is designed to run continuously and requires
> little maintenance. After it is set up, all operations are
> automatic, including index creation, index updating, and crash
> recovery if there is a power failure. For information about
> administering Indexing Service, see Administering Indexing
> Service.
>
> Administrators and application developers can develop custom
> filters for other kinds of documents. For more information on
> developing custom filters, see the Microsoft Platform Software
> Development Kit.
>
>
> --
> Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" intergate "dot" com
> Looking for a z/OS (IBM mainframe) systems programmer position




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Old 02-07-2007, 05:59 PM
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In Message-ID:<45ca0dcd$0$8993$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"jaygreg" <jaygreg90@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Perhaps on your machine, Arthur, but not mine. When I type "Windows
>Indexing" in the "Help and Support Center" of my Windows XP Professional
>window, I get "Full-text Search Matches returned 0 results for "windows
>indexing".


That's not surprising. I wouldn't expect most items in
Windows' own help files to specifically mention "windows".
However Googling on "Windows Indexing" brings up a large number of
hits with relevant ones at or near the top of the list.

In Help, try searching on "indexing service", select the
Search Assistant Overview, then (in the related) select Indexing
Service Overview.

I could not find any search which led me directly to that
help page. (Does MS have something to hide?) The exact queries
may differ in XP.

I also found that I could open is.chm or isconcepts.chm from
my Windows help directory (C:\WINNT\Help) and get the information.

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