We helping Family's and Ministries with computer problems.
Like stopping Virus's, spy ware, and Hackers
And would like to help you protect your family, church, Business,
INVISUS Direct is much more than just security software - it's a full
security service where we completely manage your online security for
you.
And your Personal Identity Theft Insurance - $25,000 policy! FREE !
We will actually save you a bunch of TIME and MONEY by not charging
you enormous fees for expert service and support.
The GOOD NEWS: With your INVISUS service, you enjoy unlimited
technical support and service for ANY security related problem -
absolutely FREE! You've got your own team of trained computer and
security experts here. Relax. We've got you covered.
Just go to www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith And run the security
test
Please, take your post to alt.soliciting.advertising
"smithfam1" <smithfam1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:dbfb25de-202f-4195-8a15-5ab8be7b661c@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> We helping Family's and Ministries with computer problems.
> Like stopping Virus's, spy ware, and Hackers
> And would like to help you protect your family, church, Business,
> INVISUS Direct is much more than just security software - it's a full
> security service where we completely manage your online security for
> you.
> And your Personal Identity Theft Insurance - $25,000 policy! FREE !
>
> We will actually save you a bunch of TIME and MONEY by not charging
> you enormous fees for expert service and support.
> The GOOD NEWS: With your INVISUS service, you enjoy unlimited
> technical support and service for ANY security related problem -
> absolutely FREE! You've got your own team of trained computer and
> security experts here. Relax. We've got you covered.
> Just go to www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith And run the security
> test
On Dec 7, 7:42 am, Straight Talk <b__n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:53:08 -0800 (PST), smithfam1
> <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote a lot of crap.
>
> Yes, Virus's, spyware and hackers can be stopped. But not by urging
> people to randomly clicking links.
> On Dec 7, 7:42 am, Straight Talk <b__n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:53:08 -0800 (PST), smithfam1
>> <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote a lot of crap.
>>
>> Yes, Virus's, spyware and hackers can be stopped. But not by urging
>> people to randomly clicking links.
>
> Little do you know
Yes, for example, why are you offering three-to-five year old versions
of software? PestPatrol from December 2004? Heh.
On Dec 8, 6:15 am, Jim Watt <jimw...@aol.no_way> wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:53:08 -0800 (PST), some cunt
>
> <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> <snipped>
>
> But can email Spam be stopped ? Perhaps
>
> sm...@myinvisusdirect.com
>
> has a good solution to it he could share with us
> instead of posting fucking pretentious adverts.
>
> --
> Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com
ok BIG boy look at this
Is your computer a criminal?
Posted: Nov 27 at 04:00 am CT by Bob Sullivan
Kim Carney / MSNBC.com
Your home computer may be committing a crime at this very moment. It
might be sending out spam. It might be buying stock as part of a pump-
and-dump scheme. Or it might be helping attack the Internet itself,
silently and invisibly, as you read this story. And the odds your
computer is a criminal are quickly rising.
The Web, some say, has been turned into an operating system for
criminals. Computer viruses that hijack PCs and turn them into
electronic robots, or "bots," have become the killer app. The
operation of networks of hijacked computers is so lucrative that
hackers are actually fighting electronic wars over them, a story we
will explore next week in part two of this series.
New hacker techniques make these virus attacks so subtle that there is
no way you would know your computer is a criminal. And there is a
growing sense among security experts that hackers have gained the
upper hand in what was once a neck-and-neck arms race.
Bots can squirm their way onto home computers in myriad ways: a virus-
laden e-mail or a booby-trapped Web site are the most common. But some
viruses can attack your computer in the background, silently worming
their way through networks via unprotected ports and porous firewalls,
using vulnerabilities that software companies don't know about.
Earlier this year, Internet founding father Vint Cerf dramatically
suggested that 150 million computers worldwide may have been hijacked
by criminals. Most experts think that his estimate is high, but they
still count infected computers in the millions, or tens of millions.
And there is general consensus that the Internet is under assault from
virus writers like never before.
Listen carefully to the words of those who are trying to help us keep
our computers safe from Net criminals and you'll get a creeping sense
that the boat is leaking faster than they can bail out the water.
There were two-and-a-half times as many viruses released in 2006 as in
2005, and the growth rate has continued through the first quarter of
2007, said Eugene Kaspersky, chief researcher for Kaspersky Labs.
Antivirus firms "may not be able to withstand the onslaught," he said
at a recent computer security conference. "This is a competition where
the antivirus companies, I fear, are not in a good position."
Another antivirus executive put it more bluntly in a private
conversation. "I think we've failed," said the official, speaking on
condition of anonymity. Computer security firms often use hyperbole to
help get attention for their products, but expressing helplessness is
something new.
I'm online day after day and this is all I use www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith
On Dec 8, 10:46 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...@example.invalid> wrote:
> smithfam1 wrote:
> > On Dec 7, 7:42 am, Straight Talk <b__n...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:53:08 -0800 (PST), smithfam1
> >> <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote a lot of crap.
>
> >> Yes, Virus's, spyware and hackers can be stopped. But not by urging
> >> people to randomly clicking links.
>
> > Little do you know
>
> Yes, for example, why are you offering three-to-five year old versions
> of software? PestPatrol from December 2004? Heh.
>
> --
> -bts
> -Motorcycles defy gravity; cars just suck
AT WORKS Man look at this
Is your computer a criminal?
Posted: Nov 27 at 04:00 am CT by Bob Sullivan
Kim Carney / MSNBC.com
Your home computer may be committing a crime at this very moment. It
might be sending out spam. It might be buying stock as part of a pump-
and-dump scheme. Or it might be helping attack the Internet itself,
silently and invisibly, as you read this story. And the odds your
computer is a criminal are quickly rising.
The Web, some say, has been turned into an operating system for
criminals. Computer viruses that hijack PCs and turn them into
electronic robots, or "bots," have become the killer app. The
operation of networks of hijacked computers is so lucrative that
hackers are actually fighting electronic wars over them, a story we
will explore next week in part two of this series.
New hacker techniques make these virus attacks so subtle that there is
no way you would know your computer is a criminal. And there is a
growing sense among security experts that hackers have gained the
upper hand in what was once a neck-and-neck arms race.
Bots can squirm their way onto home computers in myriad ways: a virus-
laden e-mail or a booby-trapped Web site are the most common. But some
viruses can attack your computer in the background, silently worming
their way through networks via unprotected ports and porous firewalls,
using vulnerabilities that software companies don't know about.
Earlier this year, Internet founding father Vint Cerf dramatically
suggested that 150 million computers worldwide may have been hijacked
by criminals. Most experts think that his estimate is high, but they
still count infected computers in the millions, or tens of millions.
And there is general consensus that the Internet is under assault from
virus writers like never before.
Listen carefully to the words of those who are trying to help us keep
our computers safe from Net criminals and you'll get a creeping sense
that the boat is leaking faster than they can bail out the water.
There were two-and-a-half times as many viruses released in 2006 as in
2005, and the growth rate has continued through the first quarter of
2007, said Eugene Kaspersky, chief researcher for Kaspersky Labs.
Antivirus firms "may not be able to withstand the onslaught," he said
at a recent computer security conference. "This is a competition where
the antivirus companies, I fear, are not in a good position."
Another antivirus executive put it more bluntly in a private
conversation. "I think we've failed," said the official, speaking on
condition of anonymity. Computer security firms often use hyperbole to
help get attention for their products, but expressing helplessness is
something new.
I'm online day after day and this is all I use www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith
> On Dec 8, 10:46 pm, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> Yes, for example, why are you offering three-to-five year old versions
>> of software? PestPatrol from December 2004? Heh.
> "Beauregard T. Shagnasty" wrote:
>> smithfam1 wrote:
>>> Little do you know
>>
>> Yes, for example, why are you offering three-to-five year old versions
>> of software? PestPatrol from December 2004? Heh.
>
> AT WORKS Man look at this
Is that a sentence?
> Is your computer a criminal?
>
> Posted: Nov 27 at 04:00 am CT by Bob Sullivan
> Kim Carney / MSNBC.com
> Your home computer may be committing a crime at this very moment.
...and the three-year-old software you promote will help?
> It might be sending out spam. It might be buying stock ...
> On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:53:08 -0800 (PST), smithfam1
> <smithfam1@yahoo.com> wrote a lot of crap.
>
> Yes, Virus's, spyware and hackers can be stopped. But not by urging
> people to randomly clicking links.
WTF? I can randomly click as I like. My security concept should be such that
it can stand such a scenario.
On Dec 6, 9:53 pm, smithfam1 <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> We helping Family's and Ministries with computer problems.
> Like stopping Virus's, spy ware, and Hackers
> And would like to help you protect your family, church, Business,
> INVISUS Direct is much more than just security software - it's a full
> security service where we completely manage your online security for
> you.
> And your Personal Identity Theft Insurance - $25,000 policy! FREE !
>
> We will actually save you a bunch of TIME and MONEY by not charging
> you enormous fees for expert service and support.
> The GOOD NEWS: With your INVISUS service, you enjoy unlimited
> technical support and service for ANY security related problem -
> absolutely FREE! You've got your own team of trained computer and
> security experts here. Relax. We've got you covered.
> Just go to www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith And run the security
> test
And how do we know that you havn't put a back door in the
software??????????? You're posting on the alt.computer.security
group...........don't you think that most people out here can fix
their own shit. Besides, you are advertising out of date
software..........most of this stuff can be gotten for free and
implemented for free by the user.
Give yourself a break!!!
> On Dec 6, 9:53 pm, smithfam1 <smithf...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> We helping Family's and Ministries with computer problems.
>> Like stopping Virus's, spy ware, and Hackers
>> And would like to help you protect your family, church, Business,
>> INVISUS Direct is much more than just security software - it's a full
>> security service where we completely manage your online security for
>> you.
>> And your Personal Identity Theft Insurance - $25,000 policy! FREE !
>>
>> We will actually save you a bunch of TIME and MONEY by not charging
>> you enormous fees for expert service and support.
>> The GOOD NEWS: With your INVISUS service, you enjoy unlimited
>> technical support and service for ANY security related problem -
>> absolutely FREE! You've got your own team of trained computer and
>> security experts here. Relax. We've got you covered.
>> Just go to www.myinvisusdirect.com/smith And run the security
>> test
>
> And how do we know that you havn't put a back door in the
> software???????????
And how do you know if the author hasn't put a backdoor into a FOSS software
project written in a sufficiently complicated programming language like C/C++?
I'd be much more worried about what this software actually does. We don't
another clone of well-known spamware like Spybot S&D, which spams the
registry full of ClSID entries in good belief that this would actually help
in any way.
<quote>And how do we know that you havn't put a back door in the
software??????????? You're posting on the alt.computer.security
group...........don't you think that most people out here can fix
their own ****. Besides, you are advertising out of date
software..........most of this stuff can be gotten for free and
implemented for free by the user.
Give yourself a break!!!</quote>
Based on the above quote, I can see you do not know anything about
INVISUS, nor did you take the time to go check it out.
Yes we all know there is Free software, and most of us who are in the
IT arena will look for free stuff before we pay for anything. That is
what EGO will do for you.
And then there are a few of us who will reverse engineer the free stuff
to find the wholes and cracks and either let the company know, or create
an exploit and write about how the free software sucks.
However, since most folks don;t have a clue about sercurity and
protecting their computers INVISUS does offer a great service including
the software, identity theft and legal protection and the free tech
support just in case something does happen.
And since they are supported by companies like Sophos Labs, Sunbelt
software and a few others, you can bet the software they use is
enterprise grade.
So before you show you lack of knowledge on a subject go do a little
digging and get off your high horse.
> Based on the above quote, I can see you do not know anything about
> INVISUS, nor did you take the time to go check it out.
Based on your response, I see you know little about Usenet etiquette.
People who post advertisements in discussion groups, with no history
of participation in the groups, are going to get flamed. Spammers are
universally despised.
> However, since most folks don;t have a clue about sercurity and
> protecting their computers INVISUS does offer a great service including
> the software, identity theft and legal protection and the free tech
> support just in case something does happen.
I am doubtful that those 'value added services' are of much value at
all. I am even more doubtful about companies who operate affiliate
schemes.
> And since they are supported by companies like Sophos Labs, Sunbelt
> software and a few others,
Perhaps not for much longer.
> you can bet the software they use is enterprise grade.
>
> So before you show you lack of knowledge on a subject go do a little
> digging and get off your high horse.
I did a little digging and posted this to a couple of other groups
where the original post appeared:
Smith Family Robinson is trying to make a little money by touting
Invisus PestPatrol, a rebranded anti-spyware product. It is listed
here under "Legitimate/Licensed Clones": http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
People looking for such software should scroll down to the
"Trustworthy Anti-Spyware Products" section and choose one of those
instead. The original Pest Patrol can be found here: http://www.ca.com/products/pestpatrol/
Ant;3394574 Wrote:
> "TroyDooly" wrote:
>
> Based on your response, I see you know little about Usenet etiquette.
> People who post advertisements in discussion groups, with no history
> of participation in the groups, are going to get flamed. Spammers are
> universally despised.
>
> I did not start this thread, it came across my Google Alerts, and I
> responded. I fully understand where you are coming from on the spamming
> issue.
>
> Which is also one of the reasons I filled out my profile and use my
> real name. I'm not here as a spammer. All I am doing is making sure the
> facts are presented and not rumors or outdated info.
>
> I am doubtful that those 'value added services' are of much value at
> all. I am even more doubtful about companies who operate affiliate
> schemes.
>
> I am sure that the folks reading this are not the target market INVISUS
> is focused on. It is the majority of folks who do not know how to secure
> their Identity to the maximum against Identity Thieves.
>
> As for the added value services. I guess that would depend on if you
> have been hit with any type of ID theft or had your system crash, or
> had your child nailed for trafficing kiddie porn.
>
> Not sure why you would be doubtful of a company who offers affiliate,
> reseller, OEM or any other word we want to use. Every company from
> Microsoft to Wall-mart offers some type of affiliate program.
>
> As for me personally, if INVISUS did not have an affiliate and were
> still offering the services they are today, and maintained their "Best
> of Breed" mentality, I would still be spreading the word on the
> services.
>
> > And since they are supported by companies like Sophos Labs, Sunbelt
> > software and a few others,
>
> Perhaps not for much longer.
> I am pretty sure the relationships are sound. Both companies are making
> money, and protecting people.
>
> I can say the Agreements are written that if either side falls short of
> the standard of excellence that is expected, either party can terminate
> the agreements.
>
> However,since the values of both companies are the same, I would say
> this arrangement will last for a while. I firmly believe Sophos will
> continue to lead the fight against cyber-crime, as will Sunbelt.
>
> > you can bet the software they use is enterprise grade.
> >
> > So before you show you lack of knowledge on a subject go do a little
> > digging and get off your high horse.
>
> I did a little digging and posted this to a couple of other
> groups
> where the original post appeared:
>
> Smith Family Robinson is trying to make a little money by touting
> Invisus PestPatrol, a rebranded anti-spyware product. It is listed
> here under "Legitimate/Licensed Clones":
> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
>
> People looking for such software should scroll down to the
> "Trustworthy Anti-Spyware Products" section and choose one of those
> instead. The original Pest Patrol can be found here:
> http://www.ca.com/products/pestpatrol/
>
> Don't support spammers.
The information you just provided is outdated. INVISUS canceled their
partnership with CA who developed Pest Patrol in 2005 right after CA
inked their deal with AOL.
INVISUS has been using SunBelt's CounterSpy SDK ever since.
Hey great thread, your point on spamming is understood.
"TroyDooly" <TroyDooly.31v8rf@DoNotSpam.com> wrote in message
news:TroyDooly.31v8rf@DoNotSpam.com...
>
> Ant;3394574 Wrote:
>> "TroyDooly" wrote:
>>
>> Based on your response, I see you know little about Usenet etiquette.
>> People who post advertisements in discussion groups, with no history
>> of participation in the groups, are going to get flamed. Spammers are
>> universally despised.
>>
>> I did not start this thread, it came across my Google Alerts, and I
>> responded. I fully understand where you are coming from on the spamming
>> issue.
>>
>> Which is also one of the reasons I filled out my profile and use my
>> real name. I'm not here as a spammer. All I am doing is making sure the
>> facts are presented and not rumors or outdated info.
>>
>> I am doubtful that those 'value added services' are of much value at
>> all. I am even more doubtful about companies who operate affiliate
>> schemes.
>>
>> I am sure that the folks reading this are not the target market INVISUS
>> is focused on. It is the majority of folks who do not know how to secure
>> their Identity to the maximum against Identity Thieves.
>>
>> As for the added value services. I guess that would depend on if you
>> have been hit with any type of ID theft or had your system crash, or
>> had your child nailed for trafficing kiddie porn.
>>
>> Not sure why you would be doubtful of a company who offers affiliate,
>> reseller, OEM or any other word we want to use. Every company from
>> Microsoft to Wall-mart offers some type of affiliate program.
>>
>> As for me personally, if INVISUS did not have an affiliate and were
>> still offering the services they are today, and maintained their "Best
>> of Breed" mentality, I would still be spreading the word on the
>> services.
>>
>> > And since they are supported by companies like Sophos Labs, Sunbelt
>> > software and a few others,
>>
>> Perhaps not for much longer.
>> I am pretty sure the relationships are sound. Both companies are making
>> money, and protecting people.
>>
>> I can say the Agreements are written that if either side falls short of
>> the standard of excellence that is expected, either party can terminate
>> the agreements.
>>
>> However,since the values of both companies are the same, I would say
>> this arrangement will last for a while. I firmly believe Sophos will
>> continue to lead the fight against cyber-crime, as will Sunbelt.
>>
>> > you can bet the software they use is enterprise grade.
>> >
>> > So before you show you lack of knowledge on a subject go do a little
>> > digging and get off your high horse.
>>
>> I did a little digging and posted this to a couple of other
>> groups
>> where the original post appeared:
>>
>> Smith Family Robinson is trying to make a little money by touting
>> Invisus PestPatrol, a rebranded anti-spyware product. It is listed
>> here under "Legitimate/Licensed Clones":
>> http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
>>
>> People looking for such software should scroll down to the
>> "Trustworthy Anti-Spyware Products" section and choose one of those
>> instead. The original Pest Patrol can be found here:
>> http://www.ca.com/products/pestpatrol/
>>
>> Don't support spammers.
>
> The information you just provided is outdated. INVISUS canceled their
> partnership with CA who developed Pest Patrol in 2005 right after CA
> inked their deal with AOL.
>
> INVISUS has been using SunBelt's CounterSpy SDK ever since.
>
> Hey great thread, your point on spamming is understood.
>
> Never Give Up,
Never give up in advertising, there are many suckers out there.
> I did not start this thread, it came across my Google Alerts, and I
> responded. I fully understand where you are coming from on the spamming
> issue.
>
> Which is also one of the reasons I filled out my profile and use my
> real name.
Your quoting is horribly broken (Ive fixed it), and yet you don't
appear to be posting through Google Groups.
> I'm not here as a spammer. All I am doing is making sure the
> facts are presented and not rumors or outdated info.
Fair enough. My info is not outdated.
> I am sure that the folks reading this are not the target market INVISUS
> is focused on.
Then the post was even more inappropriate.
[I've snipped the rest because I can't be bothered to tidy it up and
it's impossible for others to distiguish between my original text and
your reply]
> The information you just provided is outdated.
It's not. They are calling it Invisus PestPatrol so I pointed to the
real Pest Patrol (whatever they are actually using). Spyware Warrior
gives up-to-date info.
> INVISUS canceled their
> partnership with CA who developed Pest Patrol in 2005 right after CA
> inked their deal with AOL.
>
> INVISUS has been using SunBelt's CounterSpy SDK ever since.
If you follow the Spyware Warrior link you will see the reference to
CounterSpy.
> Hey great thread, your point on spamming is understood.
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