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Old 08-14-2012, 09:14 PM
charliec@email.com
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Default Malwarebytes Operation?

I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
manually when I want to.

charliec

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Old 08-14-2012, 09:16 PM
David H. Lipman
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Default Re: Malwarebytes Operation?

From: <charliec@email.com>

> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
> manually when I want to.
>
> charliec


Yes, the MBAM Service has to be loaded.

Qustions why should be directed here...
http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=41

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Old 08-14-2012, 10:12 PM
charliec@email.com
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Default Re: Malwarebytes Operation?

>On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 17:16:09 -0400, "David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:

>From: <charliec@email.com>
>
>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>> manually when I want to.
>>
>> charliec

>
>Yes, the MBAM Service has to be loaded.
>
>Qustions why should be directed here...
>http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=41


Thanks David,
I have already posted a message there as well, but no answer yet.

If Malwarebytes is not running in real mode, should this service be
started?

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Old 08-15-2012, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: Malwarebytes Operation?

"David H. Lipman" wrote:

> From: <charliec@email.com>
>
>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>> manually when I want to.
>>
>> charliec

>
> Yes, the MBAM Service has to be loaded.
>
> Qustions why should be directed here...
> http://forums.malwarebytes.org/index.php?showforum=41


There is no MBAM service defined for the freeware version. The OP
indicates he wants only a manual (on-demand) scanner. He gets that with
the freeware version. For some reason, the OP has installed the full
version or switched the freeware version into the full-featured 14-day
trial mode. If manual scans is all the OP wants then there's no need to
go beyond the freeware version.

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Old 08-15-2012, 12:45 AM
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"charliec" wrote:

> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to

<snipped the duplicated and *multi*-posted article>

See replies to your SAME post that you separately MULTI-posted in other
newsgroups. Now you'll have to remember to which other newsgroups you
multi-posted and go check each of them for replies instead of having
maintained the discussion within a single cross-posted thread across
multiple related newsgroups.

Learn to cross-post:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossposting
http://www.blakjak.demon.co.uk/mul_crss.htm
http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html

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Old 08-16-2012, 01:58 AM
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Default Re: Malwarebytes Operation?

After serious thinking charliec@email.com wrote :
> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
> manually when I want to.
>
> charliec


Charlie,

If all you want to do is run manual scans with it, you should just use
the freeware version. It is my understanding, that you cannot
disable/enable this service, why I have no idea. Every other security
app that I use has such a feature.

I had real time protection running myself and removed it because it
uses up too much memory and according to sources it will continue to
grow in memory use because of the way it is programmed to store the
updated database files. With that said, there is no fix for it on the
horizon.

If you would also like to update and run scans automatically, here is a
nice little jewel that I discovered to do just that. Use task scheduler
to run it as often as you like. The only drawback, if any, is that it
also performs a scan after each update. I have mine scheduled to run
once in the evening.

http://www.yethz.com/windows-apps/sc...edition-2/398/

Hope this helps.

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Old 08-16-2012, 04:49 AM
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"Zo" wrote:

> charliec@email.com wrote :
>
>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>> manually when I want to.

>
> If all you want to do is run manual scans with it, you should just use
> the freeware version. It is my understanding, that you cannot
> disable/enable this service, why I have no idea. Every other security
> app that I use has such a feature.


Not really. I think it was SuperAntiSpyware where I found it used a
system hook that remained in place regardless of how you tried to
configure the program. It's not a service. It's not a process. It's a
hook into the system API that's always effective although not always
loaded. I found the hook using Resplendence's Hook Analyzer. The only
way to eliminate it (so the product is really totally quiescent and
absent when not used) is to uninstall the product. I then read
something about them wanting to keep this in place to ensure their
product was more likely to load without malware interference.

Besides their hidden system hook (takes special tools to expose it),
they also load their sascore.exe process on Windows startup and no
configuration of the program will eliminate it. See:

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...94e742d598957a

See JD's replies (in the subthread under my post) where he mentioned
using SysInternals AutoRuns (that I suggested besides HookAnalyzer) to
find the SAS system hook. I no longer had SAS installed at that point.
I wanted a *clean* and completely passive second-opinion anti-malware
product. SAS didn't qualify.

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Old 08-16-2012, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: Malwarebytes Operation?

>On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:58:29 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:

>After serious thinking charliec@email.com wrote :
>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>> manually when I want to.
>>
>> charliec

>
>Charlie,
>
>If all you want to do is run manual scans with it, you should just use
>the freeware version. It is my understanding, that you cannot
>disable/enable this service, why I have no idea. Every other security
>app that I use has such a feature.
>
>I had real time protection running myself and removed it because it
>uses up too much memory and according to sources it will continue to
>grow in memory use because of the way it is programmed to store the
>updated database files. With that said, there is no fix for it on the
>horizon.
>
>If you would also like to update and run scans automatically, here is a
>nice little jewel that I discovered to do just that. Use task scheduler
>to run it as often as you like. The only drawback, if any, is that it
>also performs a scan after each update. I have mine scheduled to run
>once in the evening.
>
>http://www.yethz.com/windows-apps/sc...edition-2/398/
>
>Hope this helps.


Thanks Zo

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Old 08-16-2012, 10:40 PM
Zo
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charliec@email.com used his keyboard to write :
>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:58:29 -0400, Zo <homenet@newsbill.net> wrote:

>
>> After serious thinking charliec@email.com wrote :
>>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>>> manually when I want to.
>>>
>>> charliec


<snip>

>> If you would also like to update and run scans automatically, here is a
>> nice little jewel that I discovered to do just that. Use task scheduler
>> to run it as often as you like. The only drawback, if any, is that it
>> also performs a scan after each update. I have mine scheduled to run
>> once in the evening.
>>
>> http://www.yethz.com/windows-apps/sc...edition-2/398/
>>
>> Hope this helps.

>
> Thanks Zo


You're welcome.

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Old 09-23-2012, 03:51 PM
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On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 21:58:29 -0400, Zo wrote:

> If all you want to do is run manual scans with it, you should just
> use the freeware version. It is my understanding, that you
> cannot disable/enable this service, why I have no idea.


I guess to stop malware tuning it off?

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Old 10-20-2012, 10:53 AM
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VanguardLH wrote:
> "Zo" wrote:
>
>> charliec@email.com wrote :
>>
>>> I have Malwarebytes installed and wanted it installed to be able to
>>> run scans manually, not running in real mode all the time. I also
>>> have Norton Antivirus installed and running in real mode as my virus
>>> software. But, I notice that Malwarebytes has MBAMService running all
>>> the time. If I want to run Malwarebytes only manually when I want to
>>> scan - should this service be running all the time - if not, how do I
>>> turn it off in Malwarebytes, but still effectively run Malwarebytes
>>> manually when I want to.

>>
>> If all you want to do is run manual scans with it, you should just use
>> the freeware version. It is my understanding, that you cannot
>> disable/enable this service, why I have no idea. Every other security
>> app that I use has such a feature.

>
> Not really. I think it was SuperAntiSpyware where I found it used a
> system hook that remained in place regardless of how you tried to
> configure the program. It's not a service. It's not a process. It's a
> hook into the system API that's always effective although not always
> loaded. I found the hook using Resplendence's Hook Analyzer. The only
> way to eliminate it (so the product is really totally quiescent and
> absent when not used) is to uninstall the product. I then read
> something about them wanting to keep this in place to ensure their
> product was more likely to load without malware interference.
>
> Besides their hidden system hook (takes special tools to expose it),
> they also load their sascore.exe process on Windows startup and no
> configuration of the program will eliminate it. See:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.p...94e742d598957a
>
> See JD's replies (in the subthread under my post) where he mentioned
> using SysInternals AutoRuns (that I suggested besides HookAnalyzer) to
> find the SAS system hook. I no longer had SAS installed at that point.
> I wanted a *clean* and completely passive second-opinion anti-malware
> product. SAS didn't qualify.



What an interesting post. Thank you!

Can you point me to an independent review of the result obtained by any
independent person/body who/which has examined a brand spanking new
computer - upon which *Malwarebytes* has been loaded and then removed
from the computer. I'm referring to the computer being *forensically
examined* to determine if any 'gremlin' has or has not been left behind.

Does anyone reading here know if this has *ever* been undertaken?



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