Password Dictionary File/ Each Entry is 2 or 3 Words Concatenated?

Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?

Thank you.
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On Wed, 02 May 2007 03:22:15 GMT, poster3814
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>Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?

You might take a peek at "Diceware".
http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html

Your first impression may be to dismiss this idea totally. Before you
do, read the page and pay attention to sections explaining the
security of this idea. Look at the FAQ.

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Zilbandy wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2007 03:22:15 GMT, poster3814
> <poster3814@domain.invalid> wrote:
>
>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>> For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>> concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>> downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?
>
> You might take a peek at "Diceware".
> http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html
>
> Your first impression may be to dismiss this idea totally. Before you
> do, read the page and pay attention to sections explaining the
> security of this idea. Look at the FAQ.
>

Thank you for your reply. Diceware sounds like a great method of
creating passphrases. I guess what I'm interested in, though, is either:
complete passphrase dictionaries; OR a program I can use to create
complete passphrase dictionaries. I've tried searching the Internet some
but haven't found any yet.
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Message-ID:<HtTZh.10762$3P3.1163@newsread3.news.pas.earthl ink.net>,
poster3814 <poster3814@domain.invalid> wrote:

>Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?

To solve a recent puzzle, I took the dictionary for an
anagram program, and pulled off all 5-letter words. There were
about 5800 of them. If I wanted to create a dictionary of all
3-word combinations of them, it would take over a terabyte to hold
the almost 200e9 combinations. If you add in the 6-letter,
4-letter, 3-letter, and 2-letter words, and also all of the 2-word
combos, it comes to quite a large amount of disk space, to say
nothing of the time it'll take to process it.

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In Message-ID:<trni33thjnm0r70mq0e25kbb1uml2t3t2e@4ax.com>,
Arthur T. <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote:

>>Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>>words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>>For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>>concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>>downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?
>
> To solve a recent puzzle, I took the dictionary for an
>anagram program, and pulled off all 5-letter words. There were
>about 5800 of them. If I wanted to create a dictionary of all
>3-word combinations of them, it would take over a terabyte to hold
>the almost 200e9 combinations.

Slight correction to my computation. It would take about 3
terabytes.

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Arthur T. wrote:
> In Message-ID:<trni33thjnm0r70mq0e25kbb1uml2t3t2e@4ax.com>,
> Arthur T. <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>>> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>>> For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>>> concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>>> downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?
>> To solve a recent puzzle, I took the dictionary for an
>> anagram program, and pulled off all 5-letter words. There were
>> about 5800 of them. If I wanted to create a dictionary of all
>> 3-word combinations of them, it would take over a terabyte to hold
>> the almost 200e9 combinations.
>
> Slight correction to my computation. It would take about 3
> terabytes.
>

Hmm. Well, that would be an issue. Oh, well.

Thanks very much for responding.
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poster3814 <poster3814@domain.invalid> writes:

>Arthur T. wrote:
>> In Message-ID:<trni33thjnm0r70mq0e25kbb1uml2t3t2e@4ax.com>,
>> Arthur T. <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>>>> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>>>> For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>>>> concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>>>> downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?
>>> To solve a recent puzzle, I took the dictionary for an
>>> anagram program, and pulled off all 5-letter words. There were
>>> about 5800 of them. If I wanted to create a dictionary of all
>>> 3-word combinations of them, it would take over a terabyte to hold
>>> the almost 200e9 combinations.
>>
>> Slight correction to my computation. It would take about 3
>> terabytes.
>>

>Hmm. Well, that would be an issue. Oh, well.

The other question is why do you want to do this? Precisely because there
are so many combination, these can infact make for good passwords.

Unruh wrote:
> poster3814 <poster3814@domain.invalid> writes:
>
>> Arthur T. wrote:
>>> In Message-ID:<trni33thjnm0r70mq0e25kbb1uml2t3t2e@4ax.com>,
>>> Arthur T. <arthur@munged.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Are there password dictionary files whose entries aren't just single
>>>>> words but rather 2 or 3 words of maybe 6 letters or less concatenated?
>>>>> For example, "they red solids" are 3 words of 6 letters or less that
>>>>> concatenated would be "theyredsolids." Are there such dictionary files
>>>>> downloadable, or is there a relatively easy way one could be created?
>>>> To solve a recent puzzle, I took the dictionary for an
>>>> anagram program, and pulled off all 5-letter words. There were
>>>> about 5800 of them. If I wanted to create a dictionary of all
>>>> 3-word combinations of them, it would take over a terabyte to hold
>>>> the almost 200e9 combinations.
>>> Slight correction to my computation. It would take about 3
>>> terabytes.
>>>
>
>> Hmm. Well, that would be an issue. Oh, well.
>
> The other question is why do you want to do this? Precisely because there
> are so many combination, these can infact make for good passwords.
>
>

I was kind of sort of thinking along those lines, too.

No big reason why I asked this, though, but a few small reasons,
probably not interesting enough for me to waste anyone's time explaining.

Thanks for replying, though.
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poster3814 <poster3814@domain.invalid> wrote in
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> I was kind of sort of thinking along those lines, too.
>
> No big reason why I asked this, though, but a few small reasons,
> probably not interesting enough for me to waste anyone's time
> explaining.
>
> Thanks for replying, though.


Diceware goes some distance along these lines.

http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.html

Regards,