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Old 01-14-2011, 12:26 AM
Ari Silverstein
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Default Re: Usenet client with Mixmaster remailer support

On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 01:28:52 +0100 (CET), Anne Onime wrote:

> The thing about wanting to know the source code for a product is
> interesting, because I might like to know the source code or its
> equivalent for the cpu in my computer; heck, I might want to know
> it for every chip in the box...


I want the source code for my Cat5e cable. lol

> - who knows which ones are capable of snagging passwords and sending
> them to the CIA whenever I surf to a CIA-owned website?


No one except a handful of Agency specialists and agents, perhaps a
NOC here and there.

> I assume that Windows, Oracle, Sun, Java, and the rest of the OSs
> we all love are in the pocket of the US goverment. I assume linux
> is clean from what I know, which isn't much.
>
> My guess is that some of the 'best' and most popular virus-scanning
> programs are ignoring the viruses manufactured by the CIA to loot
> passwords, do keylogging, etc. of anybody they think deserves it -
> like remailer operators and, if the CIA's budget allows it, anybody
> who sends or receives encrypted emails.


Fair assumption.

> When somebody finally spots the virus, the virus-scanner vendor
> says: wow, that is a new one! We will add that to our database!
> Even if they knew about it from the moment the CIA released it.


Fair assumption.

> After all, those companies aren't raking in millions; if a
> government rep shows up and is willing to pay them $$$$ to play
> ball and ignore the government-manufactured viruses, why wouldn't
> they? Especially if the government rep threatens problems with the
> tax agency, or hits them with some other threat; and they no doubt
> have plenty of threats in stock.


Fair assumption.

> You will recall the problems Microsoft had over supposedly being
> monopolistic or something like that. Their problem went away, and I
> wonder if it was because Gates finally gave in and said: OK, we'll
> play ball.


Or play ball on /their/ terms.

> Christian Danner's reluctance to make the source code public is
> probably the least of our worries.


Fair assumption.

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men, I will find something in them which will hang him.¡ ~Cardinal
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