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Old 08-07-2005, 10:38 PM
pullgees@yahoo.com
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Default Symantec can detect you

Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
an illegal operation. Very strange.


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Old 08-07-2005, 10:58 PM
Stephen K. Gielda
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

In article <1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
pullgees@yahoo.com says...
> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.


There is nothing wrong with them wanting to stop freeloaders. I also
don't think they are doing it via spyware*, but instead a registry entry
that isn't removed by the uninstall.

> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
> an illegal operation. Very strange.


That is likely a competely different issue, bad script on their site,
something corrupted in your local cache, could be any number of things.

/steve
* I'm not a huge Symantec fan and haven't used any of their software in
at least six years.
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Old 08-08-2005, 01:09 AM
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

On 7 Aug 2005 14:38:13 -0700, pullgees@yahoo.com wrote:

>Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
>put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
>Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
>system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
>But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
>can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
>an illegal operation. Very strange.


You got to do a full cleaning of the registry and hard drive from safe
mode. When you install this from windows do not be connected to the
Internet. Keep disconnected from the Internet. Install Norton's
normally that reboot. When the registration screen comes up, chose by
mail. Then reboot. Don't use automatic updates. Use the updates
from symantec website. I no longer use Norton's products except for
ghost. This will not work now with the activation scheme, however it
will work for older products.

Greg Ro

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Old 08-08-2005, 01:17 AM
Notan
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

"Stephen K. Gielda" wrote:
>
> In article <1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> pullgees@yahoo.com says...
> > Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> > put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> > Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> > system think it was a new installation but not anymore.

>
> There is nothing wrong with them wanting to stop freeloaders. I also
> don't think they are doing it via spyware*, but instead a registry entry
> that isn't removed by the uninstall.


Actually, I think it's a file that's installed, with a name you'd never suspect.

On numerous occasions, with various kinds of software, I've (legitimately) had
to uninstall and reinstall. When doing so, I always make it a point to restore
a saved registry copy. And, almost every time, the software *still* knows when
I did my original installation.

Sneaky, aren't they? <g>

Notan

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Old 08-08-2005, 02:11 AM
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

In article <1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
pullgees@yahoo.com says...
> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
> an illegal operation. Very strange.


There's nothing wrong with them wanting to be paid for their product,
but why even bother using Norton when there's so many other superior
products, many free?

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Old 08-08-2005, 04:07 AM
Jim
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pullgees@yahoo.com wrote on 8/7/2005 5:38 PM:
> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
> an illegal operation. Very strange.
>


Just use Avast. The personal edition is free.

Jim

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Old 08-08-2005, 08:57 AM
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

As an experiment I've just connected up my spare computer which has
never had Norton installed before, I installed Norton 2000 for the
first time and am still unable to download the latest definitions. Not
only that but I still can't access their main site. So they must be
blocking IP addresses.


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Old 08-09-2005, 01:36 AM
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<pullgees@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
> an illegal operation. Very strange.
>

##########################
It's all OK with me. They would have to pay me at least $500 to use a
Symantec product. Steve is probably right about them using a registry key
that doesn't get deleted during an uninstall. I'm sure they would want you
to access their web site just in case you decide to pay.
donnie



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Old 08-09-2005, 04:30 PM
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Hi Pullgees ...

Could you give us some examples of the free ones?

TIA


On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 18:11:49 -0700, Kerodo <loopback@localhost.com>
wrote:

>In article <1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
>pullgees@yahoo.com says...
>> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
>> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
>> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
>> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
>> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
>> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
>> an illegal operation. Very strange.

>
>There's nothing wrong with them wanting to be paid for their product,
>but why even bother using Norton when there's so many other superior
>products, many free?



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Old 08-09-2005, 04:47 PM
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ParanoiaPlus wrote:
> Hi Pullgees ...
>
> Could you give us some examples of the free ones?
>
> TIA
>
>
> On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 18:11:49 -0700, Kerodo <loopback@localhost.com>
> wrote:
>
> >In article <1123450693.643001.285040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> >pullgees@yahoo.com says...
> >> Never paid a subscription ,never registered? Well it looks like they
> >> put a stop to free-loaders who uninstall and then reinstall their
> >> Norton software when subsription time comes. This used to make their
> >> system think it was a new installation but not anymore.
> >> But can they stop a free-loader accessing their main website as well, I
> >> can't access it? I get an Iexplore message telling me I've performed
> >> an illegal operation. Very strange.

> >
> >There's nothing wrong with them wanting to be paid for their product,
> >but why even bother using Norton when there's so many other superior
> >products, many free?



I was recommended AVAST, and am now using it. No complaints, it found
five viruses that Norton didn't. Of course that is not to say that
Norton wouldn't find viruses that Avast could not find. The home
edition is free with free updates.
But I still have this mysterious problem of not being able to access
Symantec's main site via a search engine or typing their address in the
URL field in Explorer. It doesn't really matter, it's just that it is
a puzzle that no one can tell me about. I can only think that whatever
Symantec put in my computer to stop me downloading the latest
definition updates is the same thing that is blocking me from entering
their web site.


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Old 08-10-2005, 02:47 AM
Kerodo
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Default Re: Symantec can detect you

In article <ctihf1lta5dh41bl0g4ts2jt7784qftkfb@4ax.com>,
nomail@nomail.net says...
> Hi Pullgees ...
>
> Could you give us some examples of the free ones?
>
> TIA


The main one I had in mind was Avast Home Edition. It's quite good, in
fact I much prefer it to Norton or other paid offerings. The other two
main AVs that are free would be AntiVir and AVG. I have used both of
those, but much prefer Avast.

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