what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Hi
I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes
that are made on it as I want to discover the password that someone who
uses my computer uses for their hotmail account.
I want it purely for the purpose stated and therefore am not looking
for any complicated programs that will take a long time to learn.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes
> that are made on it as I want to discover the password that someone who
> uses my computer uses for their hotmail account.
>
> I want it purely for the purpose stated and therefore am not looking
> for any complicated programs that will take a long time to learn.
> Hi
>
> I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes
> that are made on it as I want to discover the password that someone who
> uses my computer uses for their hotmail account.
>
> I want it purely for the purpose stated and therefore am not looking
> for any complicated programs that will take a long time to learn.
Google for "ValuHack". Everything you need in one small package. :)
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 03:54:27 +0100, Anonyma <anon-bounces@deuxpi.ca> wrote:
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>> can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes
>> that are made on it as I want to discover the password that someone who
>> uses my computer uses for their hotmail account.
admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> Hi
>
> I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes
> that are made on it as I want to discover the password that someone who
> uses my computer uses for their hotmail account.
>
> I want it purely for the purpose stated and therefore am not looking
> for any complicated programs that will take a long time to learn.
>
> Thanks
>
> A
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> > can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
> > are made on it
>
> <http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>
> > as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
> > for their hotmail account.
>
> Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Jim Watt wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 13:04:20 GMT, "David H. Lipman"
> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote:
>
> >From: <hammer1sj@lycos.com>
> >
> >| try PC Activity Monitor:
> >| http://download.softsecurity.com
> >|
> >
> >
> >BitDefender 7.2 08.26.2006 Spyware.Pcacme.A
> >Fortinet 2.77.0.0 08.25.2006 Spy/PCAcme
> >Kaspersky 4.0.2.24 08.26.2006 not-a-virus:Monitor.Win32.PCAcme.64
> >McAfee 4838 08.25.2006 potentially unwanted program Spyware-PCAcme
> >NOD32v2 1.1724 08.24.2006 Win32/Spy.PCAcme
>
> But as any of those should regard a keylogger as unwanted
> software, the question is does it actually contain additional
> functionality as spyware, or is it just a keylogger.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>
>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>are made on it
>>
>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>
>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>for their hotmail account.
>>
>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>
>
> Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>
> A
>
You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Rick Merrill wrote:
>
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> >
> >>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi
> >>>
> >>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> >>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
> >>>are made on it
> >>
> >><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
> >>
> >>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
> >>>for their hotmail account.
> >>
> >>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
> >
> >
> > Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
> >
> > A
> >
>
> You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
The only people more pathetic than the OP are those that try to help him/her.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
> > You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
> He has full authority on his computer. If someone trusts him to not log
> every input, it might just be unjustified.
>
> For the very same reason, I'd never enter any credentials in a cyber café.
It's an invasion of privacy.
It's no different than renting a room to someone, then spying on them.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Notan wrote:
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>>>are made on it
>>>>
>>>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>>>
>>>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>>>for their hotmail account.
>>>>
>>>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>>>
>>>A
>>>
>>
>>You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
>
> The only people more pathetic than the OP are those that try to help him/her.
>
> Notan
More like trying to dope slap 'im! He's a self described thief!
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
From: "Jim Watt" <jimwatt@aol.no_way>
|
| But as any of those should regard a keylogger as unwanted
| software, the question is does it actually contain additional
| functionality as spyware, or is it just a keylogger.
This is considered "Spyware" that contains a Keylogging component.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Jim Watt wrote:
>
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:26:51 -0600, Notan
> <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
> >What's your definition of spyware?
>
> Software which discloses information to someone
> other than the party who installed it.
Isn't that exactly what a keystroke/keylogger program does?
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
It's a COMMERCIAL MONITORING PROGRAM. It cannot be installed remotely
or by a person who doesn't have full access to target computer. Guess
AV vendors aren't fair enough to classify it as malicious spyware or
"unwanted program".
By the way, please never think that it's detected by everything: if to
install monitoring agent only, no security software (listed below or
any other) will detect it.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
On 26-Aug-2006, Notan <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
> It's an invasion of privacy.
> It's no different than renting a room to someone, then spying on them.
True, if the OP was renting his comp out, but if it is for when a child is
using it, then a parent has every right to keep 'tabs' on what they do.
Whether they tell them ahead of time or not. Which is almost the _only_
time a keylogger is alright in my personal opinion.
--
We apologize for the inconvenience
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Rick Merrill wrote:
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
> >
> >>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi
> >>>
> >>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
> >>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
> >>>are made on it
> >>
> >><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
> >>
> >>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
> >>>for their hotmail account.
> >>
> >>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
> >
> >
> > Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
> >
> > A
> >
>
> You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
ArtDent wrote:
>
> On 26-Aug-2006, Notan <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
> > It's an invasion of privacy.
> > It's no different than renting a room to someone, then spying on them.
>
> True, if the OP was renting his comp out, but if it is for when a child is
> using it, then a parent has every right to keep 'tabs' on what they do.
> Whether they tell them ahead of time or not. Which is almost the _only_
> time a keylogger is alright in my personal opinion.
Did you read the OP's latest?
"You cannot steal something from someone if you are not also depriving them
of that thing, and as the person will not lose their password by me knowing
it too I have not stolen it!"
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
From: <hammer1sj@lycos.com>
| It's a COMMERCIAL MONITORING PROGRAM. It cannot be installed remotely
| or by a person who doesn't have full access to target computer. Guess
| AV vendors aren't fair enough to classify it as malicious spyware or
| "unwanted program".
|
| By the way, please never think that it's detected by everything: if to
| install monitoring agent only, no security software (listed below or
| any other) will detect it.
|
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>>>are made on it
>>>>
>>>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>>>
>>>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>>>for their hotmail account.
>>>>
>>>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>>>
>>>A
>>>
>>
>>You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
>
> No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
> also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
> their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
>
You are so full of **** I'll bet your eyes are brown. Ploink!
> Rick Merrill wrote:
>
>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>Sebastian Gottschalk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I was just wondering if there is any simple software out there that I
>>>>>can install on my computer (PC) so that I can record the keystrokes that
>>>>>are made on it
>>>>
>>>><http://ntsecurity.nu/toolbox/klogger/>
>>>>
>>>>>as I want to discover the password that someone who uses my computer uses
>>>>>for their hotmail account.
>>>>
>>>>Well, such a trivial task doesn't require any keylogger at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>Why doesn't it require a keylogger, how else can I do it?
>>>
>>>A
>>>
>>
>>You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for help?
>
>
> No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
> also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
> their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
>
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
> also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
> their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
Just so we're clear, if someone takes my car during the night, while
I'm sleeping, and returns it before I awake, it's not stealing?
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Rick Merrill <rick0.merrill@NOSPAM.gmail.com> wrote in
news:t-ednUsdFtfc6G7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com:
>
>>>You are trying to steal someone else's password and you came here for
>>>help?
>>
>>
>> No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
>> also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
>> their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
>>
>
> You are so full of **** I'll bet your eyes are brown. Ploink!
Sorry, he may be an privacy-invading ******* but he does understand what
constitutes "theft" in the traditional legal sense. A key element of theft
(larceny) is "asportation" - the carrying off of the goods depriving the
rightful owner/possessor of them.
There is a tendency in common speech to label many activities that don't
have the element of asportation as theft: identity "theft," "theft" of
intellectual property and so on. Such non-traditional extensions of the
meaning of "theft" have even (to the detriment of the precision of the
English language) crept into some lawmakers' statutes.
The lawmakers may just be using the extended meaning of "theft"
unreflectingly and sloppily, but many of the corporate types who hang
labels of "piracy" or "theft" on what is only copyright infringement do so
very consciously, hoping to piggyback on most folks sense of moral
objection to theft in the traditional sense, blurring distinctions.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Notan wrote:
> admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
> > also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
> > their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
>
> Just so we're clear, if someone takes my car during the night, while
> I'm sleeping, and returns it before I awake, it's not stealing?
Ironically enough it's not. At least not in most US jurisdictions, and
probably many others including the US military UCMJ. If the thieves
are caught before they return the vehicle they might be charged with
theft, but even if they're able to prove they were on their way to
return your car the official charges will likely read something like
"Wrongful Appropriation of a Motor Vehicle".
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Nomen Nescio wrote:
>
> Notan wrote:
>
> > admyc@hotmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > No I am not. You cannot steal something from someone if you are not
> > > also depriving them of that thing, and as the person will not lose
> > > their password by me knowing it too I have not stolen it!
> >
> > Just so we're clear, if someone takes my car during the night, while
> > I'm sleeping, and returns it before I awake, it's not stealing?
>
> Ironically enough it's not. At least not in most US jurisdictions, and
> probably many others including the US military UCMJ. If the thieves
> are caught before they return the vehicle they might be charged with
> theft, but even if they're able to prove they were on their way to
> return your car the official charges will likely read something like
> "Wrongful Appropriation of a Motor Vehicle".
>
> A completely different offense from stealing. :)
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
On 28-Aug-2006, Sebastian Gottschalk <seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
> if it is for when a child is
> > using it, then a parent has every right to keep 'tabs' on what they
> > do.
> > Whether they tell them ahead of time or not. Which is almost the
> > _only_
> > time a keylogger is alright in my personal opinion.
>
> What about intrusion detection? What about security research?
I did say 'almost'. These are obvious legitimate uses also. Although I
am somewhat confused how a keylogger is supposed to help in intrusion
detection. Intrusion = coming in from 'outside'.
> I have a daemon that logs all key-strokes and writes it to a file that
> is
> only readable as an admin. I read it from time to time. I draw
> conclusion
> about my very own behaviour, and alos about those who use my computer.
The question here would be, do those (others) that use your computer know
that this logging is going on?
If yes, where you (or your employer) have a specific _written_ policy,
that each user is at least 'supposed' to read and know, then no problem.
If no, where you (or your employer) have implemented this and not told the
users, well... now you are getting into a very gray area indeed, this
exact type of situation is working its way thru several court systems in
the world right now.
--
We apologize for the inconvenience
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Jim Watt wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:35:49 -0600, Notan
> <notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
> >So, this is incorrect?
> >
> >http://dictionary.laborlawtalk.com/stealing
>
> In English law, its incorrect.
I wouldn't say incorrect as much as incomplete or even irrelevant. The
problem here is we're not talking about illegally transferring
possession of an automobile, only "misusing" it for a time. the
definition is brief but more or less accurate as far as far as it goes.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
Nomen Nescio wrote:
> Jim Watt wrote:
>
>
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:35:49 -0600, Notan
>><notan@ddress.thatcanbespammed> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>So, this is incorrect?
>>>
>>>http://dictionary.laborlawtalk.com/stealing
>>
>>In English law, its incorrect.
>
>
> I wouldn't say incorrect as much as incomplete or even irrelevant. The
> problem here is we're not talking about illegally transferring
> possession of an automobile, only "misusing" it for a time. the
> definition is brief but more or less accurate as far as far as it goes.
>
In the US the term is called "joyriding" and is equivalent to stealing.
Re: what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer?
ArtDent wrote:
> On 28-Aug-2006, Sebastian Gottschalk <seppi@seppig.de> wrote:
>
>
>> if it is for when a child is
>>
>>>using it, then a parent has every right to keep 'tabs' on what they
>>>do.
>>>Whether they tell them ahead of time or not. Which is almost the
>>>_only_
>>>time a keylogger is alright in my personal opinion.
>>
>>What about intrusion detection? What about security research?
>
>
> I did say 'almost'. These are obvious legitimate uses also. Although I
> am somewhat confused how a keylogger is supposed to help in intrusion
> detection. Intrusion = coming in from 'outside'.
>
>
>>I have a daemon that logs all key-strokes and writes it to a file that
>>is
>>only readable as an admin. I read it from time to time. I draw
>>conclusion
>>about my very own behaviour, and alos about those who use my computer.
>
>
> The question here would be, do those (others) that use your computer know
> that this logging is going on?
> If yes, where you (or your employer) have a specific _written_ policy,
> that each user is at least 'supposed' to read and know, then no problem.
> If no, where you (or your employer) have implemented this and not told the
> users, well... now you are getting into a very gray area indeed, this
> exact type of situation is working its way thru several court systems in
> the world right now.
Let's assume the OP is the employer and believes an employee is using
company computer for non-company or nefarious purposes. Would said
employer have the right to put a key-logger on a company owned machine?
what is good software to log keystrokes on my computer? 
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