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Old 04-25-2007, 09:21 AM
Frank
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Default 802.1X wireless connection without WEP

Hello,

Please, does someone know if it is possible to connect with Vista
Wirless to an AP with configuration 802.1X but without static WEP
and without dinamic WEP (without encryptation only with authentication
802.1X) ?

How I can realize such connection, if it is possible?.

Thank you so much in advance.


Frank


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Old 04-25-2007, 05:27 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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Default Re: 802.1X wireless connection without WEP

Frank <flopezmer@gmail.com> hath wroth:

>Please, does someone know if it is possible to connect with Vista
>Wirless to an AP with configuration 802.1X but without static WEP
>and without dinamic WEP (without encryptation only with authentication
>802.1X) ?
>
>How I can realize such connection, if it is possible?.


Ummm.... apples and oranges.
WEP is an encryption standard. 802.1x is an authentication standard.

Dynamic WEP allows the access point to deliver a temporary WEP key to
the client. This is normally done by a RADIUS server, a type of
802.1x authentication service. This is normally done with WPA which
is far more secure than WEP, but can be performed with dynamic WEP.

Your subject line contradicts your terse description. Are you trying
to make 802.1x RADIUS authentication work without WEP (no encryption),
or without dynamic WEP (temporary key)? It should work just fine with
either method as encryption has nothing to do with authentication.

However, tell that to Microsloth. They have somehow managed to
conglomerate dynamic WEP with 802.1x thus reducing their available
operating configurations. Your choices are:
Security type Select the method used to authenticate a connection to
the wireless network. The choices are the following:
- No authentication (Open) Open system authentication with no
encryption.
- WEP Open system authentication with Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP).
- WPA2-Personal Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 (WPA2) with a preshared key.
- WPA-Personal Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) with a preshared key
(also known as a passphrase).
- WPA2-Enterprise WPA2 with IEEE 802.1X authentication.
- WPA-Enterprise WPA with IEEE 802.1X authentication.
- 802.1x IEEE 802.1X authentication with WEP (also known as
dynamic WEP).

It would appear that you have the limited choice of WPA2, WPA, or
dynamic WEP, and nothing else if you're going to use 802.1x
authentication with Vista. Bummer...

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Old 04-28-2007, 03:47 AM
Doug Simar
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Default Re: 802.1X wireless connection without WEP

Yeah what Jeff said....Good job...took the word right out of my mouth man.

Doug

"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us> wrote in message
news:eovu2314v51vvdvbc24s5c79b8toqj7l34@4ax.com...
> Frank <flopezmer@gmail.com> hath wroth:
>
>>Please, does someone know if it is possible to connect with Vista
>>Wirless to an AP with configuration 802.1X but without static WEP
>>and without dinamic WEP (without encryptation only with authentication
>>802.1X) ?
>>
>>How I can realize such connection, if it is possible?.

>
> Ummm.... apples and oranges.
> WEP is an encryption standard. 802.1x is an authentication standard.
>
> Dynamic WEP allows the access point to deliver a temporary WEP key to
> the client. This is normally done by a RADIUS server, a type of
> 802.1x authentication service. This is normally done with WPA which
> is far more secure than WEP, but can be performed with dynamic WEP.
>
> Your subject line contradicts your terse description. Are you trying
> to make 802.1x RADIUS authentication work without WEP (no encryption),
> or without dynamic WEP (temporary key)? It should work just fine with
> either method as encryption has nothing to do with authentication.
>
> However, tell that to Microsloth. They have somehow managed to
> conglomerate dynamic WEP with 802.1x thus reducing their available
> operating configurations. Your choices are:
> Security type Select the method used to authenticate a connection to
> the wireless network. The choices are the following:
> - No authentication (Open) Open system authentication with no
> encryption.
> - WEP Open system authentication with Wired Equivalent Privacy (WEP).
> - WPA2-Personal Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 (WPA2) with a preshared key.
> - WPA-Personal Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) with a preshared key
> (also known as a passphrase).
> - WPA2-Enterprise WPA2 with IEEE 802.1X authentication.
> - WPA-Enterprise WPA with IEEE 802.1X authentication.
> - 802.1x IEEE 802.1X authentication with WEP (also known as
> dynamic WEP).
>
> It would appear that you have the limited choice of WPA2, WPA, or
> dynamic WEP, and nothing else if you're going to use 802.1x
> authentication with Vista. Bummer...
>
> --
> Jeff Liebermann jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
> 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
> Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
> Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558




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Old 04-28-2007, 05:15 PM
Jeff Liebermann
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"Doug Simar" <dsimar@sc.rr.com> hath wroth:

>Yeah what Jeff said....Good job...took the word right out of my mouth man.
>Doug


- I hate one line comments.
- I really hate one line comments, which quote the entire previous
message.
- I really especially hate one line comments, which quote the entire
previous message, and don't have anything to offer about the
original question.
- I really especially hugely hate one line comments, which quote the
entire previous message, that don't have anything to offer about
the original question, and which even the author doesn't give a
deleted explicative about reading.
- However, I do sympathize with those that have only one word in
their mouth.

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Old 04-29-2007, 01:09 AM
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Jeff Liebermann wrote:
> - I hate one line comments.


[snicker mode on]



Tell us
how you
really
feel.

(four lines)



[snicker mode off]

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Old 04-29-2007, 04:22 AM
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DTC <no_spam@move_along_folks.foob> hath wroth:

>Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>> - I hate one line comments.

>
>[snicker mode on]
>Tell us
>how you
>really
>feel.
>
>(four lines)
>[snicker mode off]


Let me tell you how I feel,
All that I say is quite real.
Trust me when I now proclaim,
Wi-fi and magic are the same.

Nothing works, and nothing fits,
All things new just obsoletes.
Documents are much too long,
All you know is very wrong.

Buzzwords tend to just confuse,
Acronyms I get to over-use.
What I write just wastes my time,
but it's such fun to make things rhyme.

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