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Old 11-02-2006, 01:35 AM
RichK
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Default Adding wireless to wired lan

I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides DHCP
service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I configure
the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the router and not
try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub to get its own IP
address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that could be recommended?
Anything else to worry about?

Thanks


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Old 11-02-2006, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: Adding wireless to wired lan

Get a wireless access point, (WAP), plug it into the router and set up
whatever encryption you'd like. The wireless PC's will get there ip
addresses from the router,via the WAP


"RichK" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>router and not try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub to
>get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that could
>be recommended? Anything else to worry about?
>
> Thanks




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Old 11-02-2006, 02:54 AM
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"RichK" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>router and not try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub to
>get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that could
>be recommended? Anything else to worry about?
>


You need a standalone wireless access point (WAP). The WAP device is a
bridging device that plugs into a LAN port on the router and bridges the
wire and wireless networks together, allowing the wire and wireless
computer to share resources with each other and allows the wireless
computers to use the wire router as a gateway to the Internet, just like the
wire computers. The wireless computers would get their IP from the DHCP
server on the wire router.

Linksys, D-Link, arid Netgear are some and there are others too that have
WAP devices you can look it.

http://netsecurity.about.com/cs/wire...aa112203_2.htm

Duane :)



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Old 11-02-2006, 03:13 AM
John Navas
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Default Re: Adding wireless to wired lan

On Thu, 02 Nov 2006 01:35:00 GMT, "RichK" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in
<8Xb2h.2$s43.0@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>:

>I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides DHCP
>service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I configure
>the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the router and not
>try to do it himself?


As others have said, the ideal product is a wireless access point, but
you can also use a wireless router, which might be cheaper, configured
as described in the How To wiki below.

>Do I need to set the wireless hub to get its own IP
>address from the hub?


From the router.

>Is there a brand or model that could be recommended?


Buffalo.

>Anything else to worry about?


No.

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Old 11-02-2006, 04:36 AM
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RichK <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote:
> I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
> DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network.


Wireless Access Points are often more expensive than a Wireless Router.
The Netgear WGR614 that I have is $29 at Outpost.com.
http://shop2.outpost.com/product/3635275

This can be added to an existing router, ignoring its own router
capabilities, and function as a WAP.

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101496.asp
"Using the WGR614 router as a Wireless Access Point."

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Old 11-02-2006, 09:08 PM
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"RichK" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>router and not try to do it himself?


By, "wireless HUB", I assume you mean "wireless access point" (WAP). Yes,
thats exactly how DHCP is handled. DHCP would pass through the WAP from
your wired router.

> Do I need to set the wireless hub to get its own IP address from the hub?


Yes, have your router give the WAP an IP. WAP configuration is (usually)
done over HTTP. You simply point a web browser to the WAP's IP to config
it.

As others have said, you can also use a "wireless router" as just a WAP as
well. Think of a wireless router as a "wired router that also has a
built-in WAP".

To use a wireless router as just a WAP: plug your source pipe into one it's
LAN (not WAN) ports and disable it's DHCP.




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Old 11-04-2006, 12:47 AM
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I made a movie covering the basics of this situation (it's very basic,
designed to help newbies). A free version is available here:

http://www.askmisterwizard.com/EZINE/FreeMovies.htm

(click the "Easiest Wireless Network") link.

-Bob Bosen-
http://www.AskMisterWizard.com
Computer Networking and Internetworking Made Easy thru Multimedia



"RichK" <NOSPAM@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>router and not try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub to
>get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that could
>be recommended? Anything else to worry about?
>
> Thanks




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Old 11-04-2006, 01:05 AM
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RichK wrote:
> I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
> DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
> configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
> router and not try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub
> to get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that
> could be recommended? Anything else to worry about?



DSL modem > hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port

Don't plug you hub into the Linksys "Internet" port, use one of the four
LAN ports and it will act like a bridging access point.

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Old 11-04-2006, 08:00 AM
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"decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
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> RichK wrote:
>> I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>> DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>> configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>> router and not try to do it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub
>> to get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that
>> could be recommended? Anything else to worry about?

>
>
> DSL modem > hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port
>
> Don't plug you hub into the Linksys "Internet" port, use one of the four
> LAN ports and it will act like a bridging access point.


I have this set up, and find it works very well.
For additional security, I have the Linksys powered down except when i am
actually using it

Stuart



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Old 11-04-2006, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Adding wireless to wired lan

I know what you're trying to say, but I found this confusing:

DSL modem > hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port.

To be clear, let's express it like this:

DSL modem > Router/hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port

So the ethernet side of the DSL or cable modem goes into the WAN port of
your NAT router, which should have 4 or more ethernet LAN connectors via
it's built-in hub or switch. One of those should go to one of the LAN
connectors on the Linksys WRT54G. All of the other LAN connectors (on both
the NAT router and on the WRT54G) can be used to access the local LAN
segment via the usual kind of wired ethernet cables, and nearby WiFi
equipment should also be able to connect. The WAN connector of the WRT54G
will be unused. If you don't turn on encryption, then your WiFi setup is
"public", and anybody can use it. To turn on encryption, you'll need to
assign an IP address to the WRT54G (from the same subnet managed by your NAT
router) so you can use your browser to set it up. WPA encryption is far
stronger than WEP encryption if you use a good encrypting passphrase, but it
is less compatible with older WiFi equipment.

There's a free movie here:

http://www.askmisterwizard.com/EZINE/FreeMovies.htm

that might help you visualize the management end of this. Click the link
entitled "Managing Your Network Equipment with your Web Browser".


Regards,


Bob Bosen
http://www.AskMisterWizard.com
Computer Networking and Internetworking Made Easy thru Multimedia


"decaturtxcowboy" <nope_none_@nowayspam.com> wrote in message
news:nHR2h.4029$9v5.897@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net ...
> RichK wrote:
>> I have a small wired LAN (5 - 10) computers with a router that provides
>> DHCP service. I wish to hang a wireless hub off the network. Can I
>> configure the wireless hub just to pass the DHCP requests thru to the
>> router and not try to does it himself? Do I need to set the wireless hub
>> to get its own IP address from the hub? Is there a brand or model that
>> could be recommended? Anything else to worry about?

>
>
> DSL modem > hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port
>
> Don't plug you hub into the Linksys "Internet" port, use one of the four
> LAN ports and it will act like a bridging access point.




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Old 11-05-2006, 12:19 AM
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Default Re: Adding wireless to wired lan

decaturtxcowboy wrote:
> DSL modem > hub > Linksys WRT54G LAN port
>
> Don't plug you hub into the Linksys "Internet" port, use one of the four
> LAN ports and it will act like a bridging access point.


Yes, your diagram would be more clear

DSL modem > WAN side of Router (WAN)/ LAN side of Hub)> Linksys WRT54G LAN port

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