I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order to
convert them to wireless, do I:
a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL modem?
Is this possible?
b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it with an
ADSL wireless modem router?
c. Something else?
Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there is,
just by the name.
Which is the better option to go for?
For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped with
wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that side of
things.
"ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order to
> convert them to wireless, do I:
>
> a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL modem?
> Is this possible?
> b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it with an
> ADSL wireless modem router?
> c. Something else?
>
> Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
> wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there is,
> just by the name.
>
> Which is the better option to go for?
>
> For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped with
> wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that side of
> things.
>
> Please help me kind people.
>
>>From a wireless newbie.....Thank you.
>
dig@none.com (DiG) wrote in news:vR2Ag.311054$IK3.25872@pd7tw1no:
> You need a wireless router, Thats all
The box he already has is most likely a router, so wouldn't a
wireless access point, without routing functions, be more
appropriate, not to mention simpler to manage?
> "ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:1154529595.059356.246160@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
>> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order to
>> convert them to wireless, do I:
>>
>> a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL
>> modem? Is this possible?
>> b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it with
>> an ADSL wireless modem router?
>> c. Something else?
>>
>> Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
>> wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there
>> is, just by the name.
>>
>> Which is the better option to go for?
>>
>> For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped
>> with wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that
>> side of things.
>>
>> Please help me kind people.
>>
>>>From a wireless newbie.....Thank you.
>>
He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
On 02 Aug 2006 14:45:53 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
<Xns9813635DF20C2VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:
>dig@none.com (DiG) wrote in news:vR2Ag.311054$IK3.25872@pd7tw1no:
>
>> You need a wireless router, Thats all
>
>The box he already has is most likely a router, so wouldn't a
>wireless access point, without routing functions, be more
>appropriate, not to mention simpler to manage?
>
>> "ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1154529595.059356.246160@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
>>> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order to
>>> convert them to wireless, do I:
>>>
>>> a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL
>>> modem? Is this possible?
>>> b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it with
>>> an ADSL wireless modem router?
>>> c. Something else?
>>>
>>> Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
>>> wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there
>>> is, just by the name.
>>>
>>> Which is the better option to go for?
>>>
>>> For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped
>>> with wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that
>>> side of things.
>>>
>>> Please help me kind people.
>>>
>>>>From a wireless newbie.....Thank you.
>>>
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> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
newsgroup.
I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
that then required the user to obtain his own router.
Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
> On 02 Aug 2006 14:45:53 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
><Xns9813635DF20C2VeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:
>
>>dig@none.com (DiG) wrote in news:vR2Ag.311054$IK3.25872@pd7tw1no:
>>
>>> You need a wireless router, Thats all
>>
>>The box he already has is most likely a router, so wouldn't a
>>wireless access point, without routing functions, be more
>>appropriate, not to mention simpler to manage?
>>
>>> "ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:1154529595.059356.246160@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
>>>> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order
>>>> to convert them to wireless, do I:
>>>>
>>>> a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL
>>>> modem? Is this possible?
>>>> b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it
>>>> with an ADSL wireless modem router?
>>>> c. Something else?
>>>>
>>>> Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
>>>> wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there
>>>> is, just by the name.
>>>>
>>>> Which is the better option to go for?
>>>>
>>>> For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped
>>>> with wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that
>>>> side of things.
>>>>
>>>> Please help me kind people.
>>>>
>>>>>From a wireless newbie.....Thank you.
>>>>
After serious thinking Bert Hyman wrote :
> spamfilter0@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
> news:rne1d2h71j91j2n2413sh7qgr6nni25pr9@4ax.com:
>
>> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
>
> I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
> newsgroup.
>
> I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
> that then required the user to obtain his own router.
>
> Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
> use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
But...
>>>> "ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:1154529595.059356.246160@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>> I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
>>>>> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order
>>>>> to convert them to wireless, do I:
Its more likely to be a simple USB ASDL modem if its free. All the ones
I've seen given away in the UK have been.
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ordered, Hot and steamy. I would have told the chef where to stick it
only I think that's where it had come from...
sloblocks@ch4.co.uk (sloblocks) wrote in
news:mn.13cf7d6889dd128e.58309@ch4.co.uk:
> After serious thinking Bert Hyman wrote :
>> spamfilter0@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
>> news:rne1d2h71j91j2n2413sh7qgr6nni25pr9@4ax.com:
>>
>>> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
>>
>> I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
>> newsgroup.
>>
>> I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL
>> provider that then required the user to obtain his own router.
>>
>> Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
>> use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
>
> But...
>
>>>>> "ukwizkid" <eurowiz@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:1154529595.059356.246160@s13g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>>>>> I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make
>>>>>> it wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In
>>>>>> order to convert them to wireless, do I:
>
> Its more likely to be a simple USB ASDL modem if its free. All the
> ones I've seen given away in the UK have been.
Qwest gave me a Cisco 675 when I first signed up back in 1999.
They later switched to Actiontec 1524, then Actiontec GT701-WG
(which is what I have now). Cisco 678s were also offered at sometime
or another during the switch from CAP to DMT. All of these boxes had
full routing capability, and the GT701 has built-in wireless support.
I got the 675 at no charge as a new DSL customer, but had to pay a
nominal amount (about US$30, if I remember correctly) for the GT-701.
Free (or cheap) hardware for new customers is common.
> I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
> that then required the user to obtain his own router.
I have, several times. But it'd be best to just check with the ISP and ask
what unit they provide. They may have a wireless option available.
If the ISP provides a DSL modem and a separate router I'd set aside their
router and use a wifi router instead. Better to configure it all yourself
than have to deal with the "support" people at the ISP. If they provide the
DSL modem built into the router then I'd just add an access point. You
could add a wifi router but you'd either have to cripple the ISP
modem/router or the wifi router. Otherwise you'd have some doubled up layers
of network going on and that might raise it's own hassles.
On 02 Aug 2006 14:50:38 GMT Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote:
| spamfilter0@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
| news:rne1d2h71j91j2n2413sh7qgr6nni25pr9@4ax.com:
|
|> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
|
| I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
| newsgroup.
|
| I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
| that then required the user to obtain his own router.
Generally they will bridge ethernet through or use PPP over ethernet.
That's not a router function. OTOH, I've seen a case in another
thread here where things might be explained as the cable provider
supplying a "modem" that does integrate router functions. It's best
to just not assume anything. Also, don't take the word of tech support
about what it is, either.
| Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
| use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
Might well be. And that would be annoying because I want control over
the routing functions. But as long as it can function with another
router (e.g. it can be configured to gateway to my router), then I can
deal with it.
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On 02 Aug 2006 14:50:38 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
<Xns9813642F6F05AVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:
>spamfilter0@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
>news:rne1d2h71j91j2n2413sh7qgr6nni25pr9@4ax.com :
>
>> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
>
>I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
>newsgroup.
>
>I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
>that then required the user to obtain his own router.
>
>Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
>use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
Non-router DSL modems are standard in all AT&T/SBC markets.
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In article <ppq1d2ppibfm9sdj5bo6mufvbe4n3alb2a@4ax.com>, John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>On 02 Aug 2006 14:50:38 GMT, Bert Hyman <bert@iphouse.com> wrote in
><Xns9813642F6F05AVeebleFetzer@127.0.0.1>:
>
>>spamfilter0@navasgroup.com (John Navas) wrote in
>>news:rne1d2h71j91j2n2413sh7qgr6nni25pr9@4ax.co m:
>>
>>> He said "ADSL modem" so that wouldn't seem to be a router.
>>
>>I never expect precision in use of language on this (or any other)
>>newsgroup.
>>
>>I don't think I've ever seen a DSL "modem" offered by a DSL provider
>>that then required the user to obtain his own router.
>>
>>Every box I've ever received from Qwest, or obtained on my own for
>>use on my Qwest DSL line, was a router.
>
>Non-router DSL modems are standard in all AT&T/SBC markets.
>
So instead of this debate, a good follow-up question to the original poster
(let's not forget what started this nit picking contest) would be to ask
the name of the provider? Or should we all just go on arguing about DSL
modem/routers and not actually offer to help ukwizkid solve his problem?
(as an aside, I suspect ukwizkid is not an AT&T/SBC customer, but will
admit to making a huge assumption here based on his/her name)
> So instead of this debate, a good follow-up question to the original poster
> (let's not forget what started this nit picking contest) would be to ask
> the name of the provider? Or should we all just go on arguing about DSL
> modem/routers and not actually offer to help ukwizkid solve his problem?
Well said.
>
> (as an aside, I suspect ukwizkid is not an AT&T/SBC customer, but will
> admit to making a huge assumption here based on his/her name)
>
> fundamentalism, fundamentally wrong.
ukwizkid wrote:
> I have just ordered broadband for my parents and aim to make it
> wireless. With their order comes a free ADSL modem. In order to
> convert them to wireless, do I:
>
> a. need an ADSK wireless router to connect to the existing ADSL modem?
> Is this possible?
My sister's house has cable internet. The modem is connected to a
wireless router w/ 4 ports switch (with firewall, I think but not sure)
bought from ISP (Star Steam). Model of router is Motorola SGB 940. I
don't know how much they charge for the unit but they would set up
everything for you.
I have a wireless router w/ 4 ports switch (no firewall) bought from
at an electronic store. Mine is Linksys WRT 54G. It is about $50.00
now. I connect that to the modem given by ISP (comcast).
I think you just need to get a wireless router.
> b. need to get rid of the existing ADSL modem and replace it with an
> ADSL wireless modem router?
Why do that? You'll be paying for the modem part again, if such a thing
exists. I am not good in these stuff enough to know whether there is
such a thing.
> c. Something else?
>
> Although I have been told that there is no difference between a
> wireless router and a wireless modem router, I'm assuming there is,
> just by the name.
Of course there is.
>
> Which is the better option to go for?
Just buy a router with enough ports so that in the future, if you want
to do wireless printing (wireless scanning,e tc.), you will be able to
connect the print server (or the printer with built-in printserver) to
the router.
You might want to start another thread to ask questions.
> For your information, their PC and laptop are already equipped with
> wireless capabilities so I don't need to worry about that side of
> things.
>
> Please help me kind people.
>
> >From a wireless newbie.....Thank you.
Am I being stupid? 
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